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Quebec Election: 4 Sep 12

Why PSAC is such a great Union, one that all Canadians can love respect and support.

" Largest union of federal employees endorses Parti Québécois as best suited to represent interests of its members"

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Largest+union+federal+employees+endorses+Parti+Qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois+best+suited+represent+interests+members/7183831/story.html
 
Haletown said:
Why PSAC is such a great Union, one that all Canadians can love respect and support.

" Largest union of federal employees endorses Parti Québécois as best suited to represent interests of its members"

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Largest+union+federal+employees+endorses+Parti+Qu%C3%A9b%C3%A9cois+best+suited+represent+interests+members/7183831/story.html


Yep! And people wonder why Stephen Harper "hates" them? They manage to shoot themselves in the foot yet again ... public 'service' unions remind me of Abba Eban's description of the Palestinians: they never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
 
With the latest threat of a referendum, it is good that NB Power did not sell all of its resources to Quebec Hydro, and potentially put the entire provinces natural resources in the hands of a foreign company. I am sure many other Big Business decisions will be based on this threat as well. I feel bad for the people of Quebec with this economic cloud of gloom will once again be hovering.
 
I have always wondered, and am sorry for the derail, can the Newfies take back Churchill Falls power if Quebec ceases to exist as a province in Canada?
 
Scott said:
I have always wondered, and am sorry for the derail, can the Newfies take back Churchill Falls power if Quebec ceases to exist as a province in Canada?


It is unlikely - courts, in Canada and Quebec are most likely to say "a deal's a deal," regardless of changes in status.

But many deals may unravel and Quebec will, certainly, without question have to negotiate its way into NAFTA and other trade deals, and that will be very, very difficult.

 
Well now ERC.

This is a Confederation of Provinces, or semi-autonomous states, that have arrogated to themselves the use of deadly force in the service of their communities.

It'd be interesting to see the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary face off against the Surete de Quebec on the Labrador border - in defence of "national" interests.

Jus' sayin', by!
 
Well no big surprise, the PQ are now in charge, albeit a minority government. From the CTV, re-produced under the usual caveats.

Parti Quebecois declared winner of Quebec election.

Sonja Puzic, CTVNews.ca
Published Tuesday, Sep. 4, 2012 6:29AM EDT
Last Updated Tuesday, Sep. 4, 2012 9:22PM EDT

The Parti Quebecois has been declared the winner of the Quebec election by CTV News and will form a minority government.

By 9:30 p.m., the sovereigntist party had won or was leading in 59 ridings, just short of 63 seats needed in the legislature to form a majority government.

Quebec Election Results

Voter turnout was strong, with more than 52 per cent of eligible voters casting their ballots by 5:30 p.m. Tuesday. In the last provincial election, only 57 per cent of Quebecers cast their ballots.

As his Liberal government was ousted after nearly a decade at the helm, Jean Charest’s political future hung in the balance. An hour after the polls closed, it appeared that he could lose his seat in the riding of Sherbrooke to PQ candidate Serge Cardin.
Charest’s Liberal party has tried to dodge corruption allegations, stemming from questionable practices in the province’s construction industry.

A recently launched public inquiry will look at allegations of corruption involving construction firms, municipal and provincial governments and organized crime. It is alleged that a number of election officials received kickbacks from shady construction projects.

Charest also drew the ire of Quebec’s post-secondary students this year when he announced a tuition fee increase, sparking a months-long student uprising that resulted in violent clashes with police on the streets on Montreal and Quebec City.
Now, for the first time since 2003, Quebec has a sovereigntist government that’s poised to revive tensions with Ottawa and other provinces.

Marois, who will become Quebec’s first female premier, has said that she will contact Prime Minister Stephen Harper shortly after taking office to discuss the transfer of powers in areas like immigration, language and employment insurance from Ottawa to Quebec. If Harper refuses, Marois said that will only boost her case for an independent Quebec.
But although the push for sovereignty is the foundation of the PQ’s platform, Marois has said that she will only call another referendum under the “right conditions.”

Both Charest, a staunch federalist, and François Legault, the leader of the Coalition Avenir Québec, have tried to use the prospect of a sovereignty referendum as a way to lure votes away from Marois.

But many analysts say it’s unlikely that Quebecers will be asked to vote in a referendum until late in the PQ’s term.

A recent CROP survey placed voter support for sovereignty at just 28 per cent. The survey suggests support for independence has dropped eight percentage points during the election campaign.

Before Charest was elected to the first of three consecutive terms in 2003, PQ governments under Bernard Landry and his predecessor, Lucien Bouchard, had both promised to call a referendum when winning conditions were in place.
Neither held independence votes.

Referendum talk sparks concerns

It remains to be seen how Quebec’s federalists and anglophones will react to a PQ government. Some realtors in Ontario and Quebec have already noted an increase in calls from English-speaking Quebecers who are mulling a move to Ontario or other parts of Canada.

Marois’s promise to extend Bill 101, the law which enshrines French as the province’s official language, to small businesses and colleges, has many non-French speakers worried about their education and employment prospects.

When the first Parti Quebecois government was elected in 1976, under Rene Levesque’s leadership, the rest of Canada panicked at the prospect of Quebec’s secession. The province’s anglophones left in droves and the country’s stock and bond markets reacted negatively, lowering the value of the Canadian dollar.

The PQ’s referendums on Quebec sovereignty in 1980 and 1995 both failed, although the latter one was defeated by a very narrow margin.

 
As at 2140 Hrs it looks like a PQ minority:

Quebec Election Results
Updated: Sep. 4, 2012, 9:40 PM EDT
Party Elected Leading Total Vote Share (%)
PQ             41     17   58             32.88
LIB             37     10   47             30.56
CAQ           11       7   18             27.17
QS               1       1     2               5.58

Results from CBC News
 
SeaKingTacco said:
Looks like it could have much worse for the Quebec Liberals...

Yea, considering everyone was predicting this was to be a Liberal Götterdämmerung.   In the last hour the CAQ has picked up a couple more seats, now at 20 (elected/leading).
 
Well, this is probably the best result - the PQ have enough rope to hang themselves by being a crappy minority government but not enough rope to hang Canada as the opposition can shut a referendum movement down.
 
At least we have the right Prime Minister in place to deal with them.
 
Infanteer said:
Well, this is probably the best result - the PQ have enough rope to hang themselves by being a crappy minority government but not enough rope to hang Canada as the opposition can shut a referendum movement down.
Agreed - the political fallout of the coming corruption inquiry sh*tstorm will implicate the PQ as much as (or more than) the Liberals; this way, they'll be in a position to absorb the brunt of the political fallout without being able to push forward any of their more poisonous policies. I predict the government will fall over the budget around March.
 
Interesting thing is that the PQ got 3% FEWER votes than in the last election. It was not a vote for separation. It was a vote for change. Good luck to them getting rid of some of the corruption after having a party in power for much too long.
 
P.S. I don't think we'll hear too much squawking as long as the 7.39 Billion in equalization payments pours in this year.

SIX PROVINCES TO RECEIVE $15.4 BILLION IN EQUALIZATION PAYMENTS IN 2012-13
(millions of dollars) P.E.I.  N.S.  N.B. Que. Ont.  Man.
                              337 1,268 1,495 7,391 3,261 1,671
 
Didn't take long for some lunatic with a gun to show up at the afterparty - 2 wounded and the building set on fire? Only pic I saw looked like the guy had one of those civilianized Czech Vz.58 rifles.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebecvotes2012/story/2012/09/05/marois-victory-speech-shot-fired.html
 
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2012/09/20120905-002452.html

Man arrested with machine during victory speech by new PQ Premier Pauline Marois; fire set at building, Marois hustled off stage. Montreal police confirm two people shot outside Parti Quebecois rally; both in critical condition. More to come

End of article. Just breaking now.

More from CTV:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/two-shot-one-critically-outside-pq-headquarters-on-election-night-1.942821

Two people were shot outside the Parti Quebecois headquarters in Montreal as PQ Leader Pauline Marois delivered her election victory speech Tuesday night, prompting her security team to whisk her off stage and evacuate the building.
Montreal police said one person was in critical condition following the shooting. They arrested a 50-year-old man at the scene, clad in what appeared to be a long, blue housecoat and a makeshift balaclava.


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/two-shot-one-critically-outside-pq-headquarters-on-election-night-1.942821#ixzz25ZIENU4B

More on link. Craziness.
 
Redeye said:
Didn't take long for some lunatic with a gun to show up at the afterparty - 2 wounded and the building set on fire? Only pic I saw looked like the guy had one of those civilianized Czech Vz.58 rifles.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/quebecvotes2012/story/2012/09/05/marois-victory-speech-shot-fired.html


One of the wounded has just died. Sad.
 
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