One of Canada's New Navy Ships Stopped in Hawaii After Taking on Water- July 23/ 2024

[Navy_Pete]

That would require a open communication and learning environment, like when your ship catches fire, afterwards, you openly share the report so people can learn what went right and wrong and how to avoid catching fire in the first place.

Woah woah tabernac, that's not how we roll!

In all seriousness, making slow progress there, but at least have an easy to use reporting system in sharepoint so getting better, and starting to get folks in the habit of attaching the investigation reports, photos, videos etc to that same incident report on sharepoint so it's a one stop shop.

Doesn't mean things like the BOIs are there, or the lessons learned from the existing recent fire investigations are taken onboard (pretty much none of the FRE fire recommendations from 2021 were formally implemented), but still, some progress.

Honestly seems like we need a major incident with ships lost or people killed for things to get on the radar for a while, but prevention isn't sexy like missiles so quickly falls off the radar of the operators.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Honestly seems like we need a major incident with ships lost or people killed for things to get on the radar for a while, but prevention isn't sexy like missiles so quickly falls off the radar of the operators.

In other big organizations the most senior leaders will stand up, tell truth to power, and lead improvements.

Does that not happen in the Navy?

 

[Navy_Pete]

In other big organizations the most senior leaders will stand up, tell truth to power, and lead improvements.

Does that not happen in the Navy?

2 out of 3?

 

[FSTO]

In other big organizations the most senior leaders will stand up, tell truth to power, and lead improvements.

Does that not happen in the Navy?

Like the RCMP?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Woah woah tabernac, that's not how we roll!

In all seriousness, making slow progress there, but at least have an easy to use reporting system in sharepoint so getting better, and starting to get folks in the habit of attaching the investigation reports, photos, videos etc to that same incident report on sharepoint so it's a one stop shop.

Doesn't mean things like the BOIs are there, or the lessons learned from the existing recent fire investigations are taken onboard (pretty much none of the FRE fire recommendations from 2021 were formally implemented), but still, some progress.

Honestly seems like we need a major incident with ships lost or people killed for things to get on the radar for a while, but prevention isn't sexy like missiles so quickly falls off the radar of the operators.

At Seaspan, they have a "Flash report" Anytime an incident happens like a near miss accident, fire, anything leading to damaged equipment , injury minor or major. A report is made about what happened, how it happened and steps to avoid a repeat. That is sent within a week or so throughout the different sites as part of the learning/safety culture. Each one is no more than 2 pages with pictures.

 

[Furniture]

Ships on their way home. All cleaned up and mitigation put in place.

Not quite... MAX is at sea taking part in RIMPAC until the exercise ends.