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While you can always hide your head in the sand, deny the facts (and it won'tmatter what sources are provided, to you they are always wrong, biased, made up etc.), but the Palestinians have taken their opportunities and thrown them away. IF, as you say, a small radical fringe is responsible for their present misery, why have the majority not risen up and swept them away?
There is no evidence anywhere that the Palistinians have any true desire to ground arms and actually build a state and live in peace with their neighbours (you might inquire as to how the Jordanians reacted to the Palistinians, or why other Arab nations are not welcoming of Palestinians on their soil, outside of the obvious need to keep people distracted from what is happening in their own countries). Yassar Arafat sparked the Infantada despite (or perhaps because of) being offered something like 90% of what was demanded at Camp David; perhaps it would be an interesting research project to find out why?
In the end. the question for ourselves is do we support a fellow liberal democratic state on principle (as we have comparable principles and thus mutual interests), or do we not? Despite what Edward says, I believe that to abandon our principles would be bad not just for Israel, but also the long term future of the Middle East and also for ourselves. We see here in Canada that abandoning our principles is bringing things lke differential law enforcemens and violence in Caledonia, academics, politicians and human right advocates becoming silent in the face of crimes like "honour killings" in Canada and hosts of other issues beginning to surface.
So on principle I condemn the killers and support any eforts to bring them to justice.
There is no evidence anywhere that the Palistinians have any true desire to ground arms and actually build a state and live in peace with their neighbours (you might inquire as to how the Jordanians reacted to the Palistinians, or why other Arab nations are not welcoming of Palestinians on their soil, outside of the obvious need to keep people distracted from what is happening in their own countries). Yassar Arafat sparked the Infantada despite (or perhaps because of) being offered something like 90% of what was demanded at Camp David; perhaps it would be an interesting research project to find out why?
In the end. the question for ourselves is do we support a fellow liberal democratic state on principle (as we have comparable principles and thus mutual interests), or do we not? Despite what Edward says, I believe that to abandon our principles would be bad not just for Israel, but also the long term future of the Middle East and also for ourselves. We see here in Canada that abandoning our principles is bringing things lke differential law enforcemens and violence in Caledonia, academics, politicians and human right advocates becoming silent in the face of crimes like "honour killings" in Canada and hosts of other issues beginning to surface.
So on principle I condemn the killers and support any eforts to bring them to justice.