As explained earlier, it all depends on how you look at it...Originally posted by flip_masta:
[qb] if u guys feel so strong about your views on cadet combat training should be regulated then fine so be it.........but i agree with 3005_MWO...if a person wants to train to be a soldier then as soon as u turn 16...join the reserves. also i still believe that army cadets is goin down.....and it needs a boost whether it be more live fire activities or even excercises with your affiliated unit...i mean cmon lets be serious, even for one moment, i have been discussing a matter with an officer at the cadet support unit for ontario and they were thinking of removing all weapons affiliated with the army such as the c7 and the cadets will not have access to them....now tell me that is a stupid move or not [/qb]
"Military" doesn‘t mean "combat". Army cadets shine boots and press uniforms and polish brass. Boy Scouts, Beavers, Cubs and Venturers don‘t do that. Army Cadets drill and march using the same drill the Army uses. Army Cadets have a rigid rank structure; they salute commissioned officers and stand at attention to talk to superiors. They have career progression (star levels) in the same manner as the Army (the old TQ, QL, or now the DP system). That is all good "military" stuff that other civvie organizations don‘t do, so don‘t diss cadets as being "unmilitary" either. They are very much military, they‘re just not trained for combat.Originally posted by 3005_MWO:
[qb]As explained earlier, it all depends on how you look at it...Originally posted by flip_masta:
[qb] if u guys feel so strong about your views on cadet combat training should be regulated then fine so be it.........but i agree with 3005_MWO...if a person wants to train to be a soldier then as soon as u turn 16...join the reserves. also i still believe that army cadets is goin down.....and it needs a boost whether it be more live fire activities or even excercises with your affiliated unit...i mean cmon lets be serious, even for one moment, i have been discussing a matter with an officer at the cadet support unit for ontario and they were thinking of removing all weapons affiliated with the army such as the c7 and the cadets will not have access to them....now tell me that is a stupid move or not [/qb]
Sea Cadets doesn‘t really do anything ‘Navy‘, aside from the uniform and some Naval Traditions (Boatswains call, etc)....When I was a Sea Cadet, we didn‘t learn how to fire weapons on a ship, or go out to sea in the YAGs and fight against eachohter...We did Seamanship, Dinghy sailing...nothing you can‘t do in the civilian world. Aside from Marine Engineering, which is a CF Ticket...they don‘t learn combat, they just learn how to engineer on a YAG.
Air Cadets certainly don‘t do any ‘air force‘ training that I know of...They don‘t learn combat tactics, or anything of the sort. They learn to fly, but that‘s civilian certification.
Army Cadets is a bit misleading, because even at HQ, it‘s the ACO(Land), not ACO(Army), so ‘Land‘ Cadets may be a better term to think along the lines of. The most Army thing is the CF Jump Course, which can sometimes be a dream for Reg Force Soldiers (so I‘m told). That‘s pretty ‘army‘ if you ask me. Beyond that, Army Cadets isn‘t anymore or less ‘military‘ than Sea is Navy or Air is Air Force.
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As far as I know, the SAT at Moss park STILL ISN‘T WORKING! :rage:Originally posted by 48Highlander:
[qb] I don‘t know about other cadet corps, but I‘ve taken our own cadets on to our SAT range a couple times, so they‘ve gotten to handle a C7, C9, and C6. Might not be as "cool" as live rounds, but they all seemed to enjoy it just fine. I also know that the CF DOES allow cadets to fire C7‘s live as long as certain procedures are followed. For example, no more than 5 rounds in a mag, only single shots, and there has to be 1 reserve or regforce DS staff for every 3 cadets firing. If you want to do any of these things, it‘s up to you and your chain of command. Your best resource is your local armories. If the CO of your corps wants to, and has sufficient funding, he can get on the phone to one of the regiments there and they can either open up the SAT range for you or arrange some kind of live range on a weekend. The SAT range is probably the cheapest option because you‘ll only be paying for 1-2 personnel to run the range, and about 2 cents per round fired. Submit a memo up your chain of command and see what happens. [/qb]
Not entirely correct. Cadets must leave when they turn 19. But yes, there are cadets from 16 to 18.Wait a min here. cadets can be 19.. where as the entry age for PRes is 16.
But what about the 12-15 year olds? A cadet has the option to leave whenever they like. They aren‘t bound to anything, and don‘t have to give notice. If they choose to join the PRes at 16, more power to them...But what bout those who don‘t want to?Originally posted by hopefully airborne soon:
[qb] Wait a min here. cadets can be 19.. where as the entry age for PRes is 16. so tell me why people are saying they are just kids. if we uped the training a bit, maybe it would make for easier transfer from cadets to PRes. [/qb]