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LPC leadership race - 2025

Units with toxic culture don't suddenly change when the CO leaves.

Swapping Trudeau with one of these clones isn't going to suddenly change the Liberal elitist culture, penchant for ethical violations, and all their shadowy behavior.

Voting Liberal this election is enabling the same behavior we've seen from them over the last 9 years.
 
If there had been enough time for a proper leadership campaign over the summer, you wouldn't see what amounts to the LPC's equivalent of the Clearance bin at Giant Tiger.
Trudeau very specifically didn't want a real and useful leadership race. I suspect he feel betrayed by the party, and wants to bring it crashing down as he leaves.
 
They're all just awful.

If there had been enough time for a proper leadership campaign over the summer, you wouldn't see what amounts to the LPC's equivalent of the Clearance bin at Giant Tiger.

I hope this will lead to constitutional changes in the LPC so that the cult of personality crap can be removed. The should have been initiated when they lost the first by-election in June 2024.
I THINK the LPC was blinded by Trudeau and the fact the adult leaders were all let go or resigned early in this regime's rule - Dryden, Garneau and the firing of JWR showed the teen mentality - you know the kid that got stuck in the lockers finally has some power and he'll show you....
 
It's not hard to connect Carney to Trudeau.

It's not even a stretch.
Being politics, it can also be a bit of a Rorschach test/eyes of the beholder thing

Those who hate him on one side'll velcro him to JT, while haters on the other side'll be happy to bring this up from 2011 for being not quite as Red as some might like (highlights mine) :)
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Whomever wins the leadership race will be PM until October. JS will prop them up.

The damage isn’t over yet.
That will all be a manner of perspective, we have gained a lot of useful legislation under the current liberal government, as an example S-12 expanded who has to register as a sex offender to include those who share intimate images without consent. Something I agree with.
 
That will all be a manner of perspective, we have gained a lot of useful legislation under the current liberal government, as an example S-12 expanded who has to register as a sex offender to include those who share intimate images without consent. Something I agree with.
I agree with that one as well. There’s a domestic violence bill currently in Senate committee that I hope to see get through before an election.

It’s an unfortunate reality that a few good items usually die on the table when elections hit.
 
That will all be a manner of perspective, we have gained a lot of useful legislation under the current liberal government, as an example S-12 expanded who has to register as a sex offender to include those who share intimate images without consent. Something I agree with.
And that dismisses the massive amount of damage and havoc this Liberal-NDP not coalition coalition has caused? No. We could have had the same act under any government.

I wouldn't even bring up justice and criminal issues with Trudeau's brand. They have a horrible record. I have noticed something with you, I call people out on this. YOU are going to great lengths to crap on the CPC/defend the LPC. Why?
 
And that dismisses the massive amount of damage and havoc this Liberal-NDP not coalition coalition has caused? No. We could have had the same act under any government.

I wouldn't even bring up justice and criminal issues with Trudeau's brand. They have a horrible record. I have noticed something with you, I call people out on this. YOU are going to great lengths to crap on the CPC/defend the LPC. Why?

The CPC has no substance past buzz words, I have thrown plenty of flak at the current government as well, especially on defense issues, however there is plenty of misinformation, especially on economic issues out in the information space targeting the current gov, not to mention the foreign interference issue. The CPC has done nothing to address concerns, if they want my vote, they should do something to win it, smeer campaigns dont win my vote. I have never voted liberal before, but I will defend the good policies when i see them that actually help people.
 
The CPC has no substance past buzz words, I have thrown plenty of flak at the current government as well, especially on defense issues, however there is plenty of misinformation, especially on economic issues out in the information space targeting the current gov, not to mention the foreign interference issue. The CPC has done nothing to address concerns, if they want my vote, they should do something to win it, smeer campaigns dont win my vote. I have never voted liberal before, but I will defend the good policies when i see them that actually help people.

What do you want them to do from the opposition bench ?
 
What do you want them to do from the opposition bench ?
If you want an election, act like a government in waiting, ignoring or attacking reporters for doing their jobs for example is not how you convince me you are serious. Now my local MP is with the CPC and he will get my vote as a candidate because he has been fighting tooth and nail to try and get my towns post office back after it was closed 3 years ago, thats caring for your constituents.
 
If you want an election, act like a government in waiting, ignoring or attacking reporters for doing their jobs for example is not how you convince me you are serious. Now my local MP is with the CPC and he will get my vote as a candidate because he has been fighting tooth and nail to try and get my towns post office back after it was closed 3 years ago, thats caring for your constituents.

If you google Pierre P. You will find lots of examples of him talking to reporters. You will also find examples of the establishment media trying to paint him into a gotcha moment.

How exactly would you like to see him and his party act like a Gov in waiting, what does that mean to you ?
 
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I have noticed something with you, I call people out on this. YOU are going to great lengths to crap on the CPC/defend the LPC. Why?
And guess what - I’ve noticed something with you too.

If someone doesn’t agree with you on whatever stance, you make it personal. Me, @MilEME09, whoever, and on whatever topic.

One can debate the issues without making it about the commenter.
 
If you google Pierre P. You will find lots of examples of him talking to reporters. You will also find examples of the establishment media trying to paint him into a gotcha moment.

How exactly would you like to see him and his party act like a Gov in waiting, what does that mean to you ?
If the leader of the opposition party wants to be PM, then cut the “attack dog” image like what he tried to do a while back. There was a coordinated effort, around the time that he stopped wearing his glasses, to soften his image to make it more “PM for all Canadians”.

I’m guessing that it wasn’t wholly successful because he went back within a few weeks. Or maybe that is his normal attitude - I don’t know.

Previous opposition parties, who became govts in waiting, could (and did) challenge the governing party but they never made it as personal, or poke at the governing party in inappropriate circumstances (the Jenni Byrne post about O’Toole congratulating Anand, for example). The parties wildly disagreed on things but there was some measure of decorum.

Edit to add: What I would really like to see in a poll is when the LPC selects their leader, there is a two-part poll for all parties: Which party you want to vote for to form govt, and what the opinions are of the various party leaders. That would answer whether Canadians are really voting someone out (or their party, as that person has already said they’re not running again), or voting someone in.
 
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If you want an election, act like a government in waiting, ignoring or attacking reporters for doing their jobs for example is not how you convince me you are serious. Now my local MP is with the CPC and he will get my vote as a candidate because he has been fighting tooth and nail to try and get my towns post office back after it was closed 3 years ago, thats caring for your constituents.
Pierre has. If you actually watched any one of his interviews, he is a very well spoken and has some very good ideas. He presents an angry tone when attacking LPC governing because...MOST of the nation is pissed at the damage done by Trudeau and his brand of LPC. And he has done his job quite well as OPPOSITION. You know? What he is supposed to do.

I have watched your post for a bit now. One question, yes or no, are you employed by the government?
 
If someone doesn’t agree with you on whatever stance, you make it personal.
A failed economy and corrupt governing THREATENS my farm, my family and my children's future. You? Your an officer in the CAF. Your pay check is there EVERY month.

You don't take politics personally. I do. Deal with it.
 
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The CPC has no substance past buzz words,
The CPC hasn't been in power has it?

FWIW I think Dangerous Offender legislation needs to be looked at - as well as child serial sexual predators - who need to be locked up for a very long time.

And sentencing - guilty of multiple murders? Consecutive time, not concurrent despite what the SCOC has to say.
 
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