Lawsuit could make designated drivers liable for intoxicated passengers
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Old Sweat said:
Even at work in an operational theatre, tisk tisk...
Disclaimer - I may have been selectively cropped out of this photo getting my drunk on.
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There, just made the disclaimer a bit larger. You know, for us older folks!Petamocto said:Even at work in an operational theatre, tisk tisk...
Disclaimer - I may have been selectively cropped out of this photo getting my drunk on.
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I transported drunks, druggies and crazies for a living in the city.
When they jump, if they injure themselves, the two questions on the Incident Report are:
1 ) Was the crew aware that the patient might jump?
Only if you knew they had a history of jumping, or they told you they would. But, with people like that, you never know what they will do in a confined, moving compartment. Fight or flight. Or both.
2 ) Did the crew make an effort to prevent it?
We always drove nice and slow in the curb lane with people who were a potential threat to themselves, or more importantly, us. The main thing is to be prepared to stop the vehicle ASAP.
It seems the defendant is being held to that standard. As I said, maybe his liabiliaty insurance will take care of it. Either way, if they are common law, the money should stay in the family. After the ambulance chasers take their cut.
When they jump, if they injure themselves, the two questions on the Incident Report are:
1 ) Was the crew aware that the patient might jump?
Only if you knew they had a history of jumping, or they told you they would. But, with people like that, you never know what they will do in a confined, moving compartment. Fight or flight. Or both.
2 ) Did the crew make an effort to prevent it?
We always drove nice and slow in the curb lane with people who were a potential threat to themselves, or more importantly, us. The main thing is to be prepared to stop the vehicle ASAP.
It seems the defendant is being held to that standard. As I said, maybe his liabiliaty insurance will take care of it. Either way, if they are common law, the money should stay in the family. After the ambulance chasers take their cut.
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Old Sweat said:
The Technoviking does not get drunk, alcohol experiences the Technoviking until he releases it from his system.
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AT THIS TIME OF YEAR PLEASE PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO FROM YOU TUBE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Australian DUI Commercial - the most intense commercial that I've ever seen
AND PLEASE DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE EVER AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z2mf8DtWWd8
AT THIS TIME OF YEAR PLEASE PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO FROM YOU TUBE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Australian DUI Commercial - the most intense commercial that I've ever seen
AND PLEASE DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE EVER AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Z2mf8DtWWd8
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Baden Guy said:
My opinion: Majority of people will never learn until they experience/witness the bloody aftermath of tragedy firsthand.
A friend of mine just got nailed under the new BC Provincial MVA drinking and driving law. For those of you unfamiliar, if you are caught with a blood-alcohol content of 0.05-0.07 (the Crim Code limit being 0.08), you get a mandatory:
30 day impound of your car (~$800)
90 day suspension of your DL ($150 re-licencing fee at the end)
Responsible driving course (~$800)
ignition lock for 1 year (~$1700)
cab ride ($100)
fine ($500)
points
Totals around $4000. I am in no way excusing drinking and driving, BUT, she was under the legal limit set forth by the Criminal Code. This new law was passed through the majority BC Legislature and even the solicitor general is calling on cops to 'show discretion' (they should have written that into the law...the cops have no choice).
It is not possible now, in BC, to have even 1 drink and be assured that you won't be nailed by this STUPID law. I'm all for hammering folks that are clearly intoxicated and driving, but this punishes those that are acting responsibly (according to most I think), and not the chronic drunk driver.
/rant
30 day impound of your car (~$800)
90 day suspension of your DL ($150 re-licencing fee at the end)
Responsible driving course (~$800)
ignition lock for 1 year (~$1700)
cab ride ($100)
fine ($500)
points
Totals around $4000. I am in no way excusing drinking and driving, BUT, she was under the legal limit set forth by the Criminal Code. This new law was passed through the majority BC Legislature and even the solicitor general is calling on cops to 'show discretion' (they should have written that into the law...the cops have no choice).
It is not possible now, in BC, to have even 1 drink and be assured that you won't be nailed by this STUPID law. I'm all for hammering folks that are clearly intoxicated and driving, but this punishes those that are acting responsibly (according to most I think), and not the chronic drunk driver.
/rant
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I'm volunteering with Operation Red Nose this year. If legislation was passed to make designated drivers liable, this would most likely affect one of the more effect methods of getting drunk drivers off the road.
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Would it also apply to Municipal Transit workers? If I am going out I take the bus.
Then there are Cab drivers. If I can't find the bus stop I take a cab.
If I had my bicycle and had someone else take it home, would they be liable as well? I know you can be busted for riding a bike intoxicated.
When will the madness stop?
Then there are Cab drivers. If I can't find the bus stop I take a cab.
If I had my bicycle and had someone else take it home, would they be liable as well? I know you can be busted for riding a bike intoxicated.
When will the madness stop?
I see an increase in popularity of the 'neighborhood pub' coming. That way, you can go and drink to your liver's content and cab it there and back for 20 bucks.
What's next? Lining up a guy at 0.07 and just shooting him? Jeez, it seems you're better off getting really wasted and taking your chances with a lenient judge (getting nailed under the CCC rather than these 'administrative' penalties).
Not that I'm advocating that!
What's next? Lining up a guy at 0.07 and just shooting him? Jeez, it seems you're better off getting really wasted and taking your chances with a lenient judge (getting nailed under the CCC rather than these 'administrative' penalties).
Not that I'm advocating that!
Province's (Manitoba) new laws hike penalties for impaired driving
By: Larry Kusch 2/12/2010 1:00 AM
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Currently, a 24-hour suspension can be imposed for driving with a BAC of .05 per cent or higher, failing a physical co-ordination test and for refusing or being too impaired to comply with a demand for a breath, blood or physical co-ordination test. There is no opportunity to appeal such suspensions.
The proposed changes would see the province adopt tiered, short-term suspensions of 24 hours for a first violation of driving with a BAC of .05 to .08 or failing a physical co-ordination test, 15 days for a second violation, 30 days for a third violation and 60 days for a fourth or subsequent violation.
"We know that the evidence tells us that at .05 somebody's ability to drive is already impaired," Attorney General Andrew Swan said Wednesday after introducing the proposed Highway Traffic Act amendments.
Swan said there are about 40 repeat offenders in Manitoba each year who are caught drinking and driving with a BAC of between .05 and .08.
Suspended drivers will be allowed to challenge the grounds for the tiered suspension and apply for a conditional restricted driver's licence if the suspension is upheld but will result in undue hardship, such as job loss.
The province is also amending the law so it can suspend the motor vehicle driver's licence of people found guilty of operating a boat, train or plane while impaired.
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By: Larry Kusch 2/12/2010 1:00 AM
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Currently, a 24-hour suspension can be imposed for driving with a BAC of .05 per cent or higher, failing a physical co-ordination test and for refusing or being too impaired to comply with a demand for a breath, blood or physical co-ordination test. There is no opportunity to appeal such suspensions.
The proposed changes would see the province adopt tiered, short-term suspensions of 24 hours for a first violation of driving with a BAC of .05 to .08 or failing a physical co-ordination test, 15 days for a second violation, 30 days for a third violation and 60 days for a fourth or subsequent violation.
"We know that the evidence tells us that at .05 somebody's ability to drive is already impaired," Attorney General Andrew Swan said Wednesday after introducing the proposed Highway Traffic Act amendments.
Swan said there are about 40 repeat offenders in Manitoba each year who are caught drinking and driving with a BAC of between .05 and .08.
Suspended drivers will be allowed to challenge the grounds for the tiered suspension and apply for a conditional restricted driver's licence if the suspension is upheld but will result in undue hardship, such as job loss.
The province is also amending the law so it can suspend the motor vehicle driver's licence of people found guilty of operating a boat, train or plane while impaired.
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