Improved Combat Uniform

[SeR]

If a few officers are so insecure that they need high-visibility ranks to ensure they are saluted the solution is not high visibility ranks, but better quality officers.

What's the point of even having name tags and ranks on the uniform if nobody can even see them? I'm pretty sure their not changing them just so that more salutes can be thrown around.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

and full PT gear including (unused) grey runners, grey shorts and white t-shirt with blue collar.

Oh man, do you ever have to show up to the next 'formation PT' session with that stuff on and some Lt Ring (Heartbreak Ridge) glasses.  8)

Make sure you style it up and wear the old school issued grey socks with those *runners*. 

 

[DirtyDog]

So we've invested millions to acquire uniforms with improved camouflage.

And now we're spending more money to get rank and name identifiers that are high visiblity.

"Special Kind Of Stupid" does not begin to describe this

If a nametape and rank epaulet compromise your camouflage, you're doing it wrong. 

IMO the improved visibility name and rank isn't a issue for field use as the tac vest and/or FPV would cover them(if the name and rank are worn).

Exactly.  End of story.  I personally have trouble distinguishing ranks at times, even when standing talking to someone.  Depending on the condition of the epaulet and the particular pattern on it, MCpl and Sgt can be a little hard to make out and I've addressed people by the wrong rank on numerous occasions.  I'm not worried about getting chewed out in the least, I just like to be correct. 

We've already got a uniform for garrison wear that has high visibility ranks & nametags.  It's called the DEU.

Not appropriate if you're working on the shop floor, but plenty adequate for sitting around the office type jobs.

A lot of us work in a garrison where the DEU is worn maybe half a dozen times a year.

Seriously, I think some people will find anything to be cynical about. I'm guilty of it from time to time.  If anyone thinks this is some scheme to elicit more salutes or anything like that, they are on glue and should re-evaluate their career.

 

[Wolf117]

Anyone heard if there is any reality to the rumour that the new combats are being redesigned at the last minute because someone decided that the mandarin collar was too "American looking".  So now the new ICU will continue to have the current collar?

 

[Verge1993]

I did some reserch and it said that there was going to be 24,000 made starting 2012 but I have yet to see any of these Improved Combat Uniforms (ICU). 

 

[Caramon_Majere]

Could you please give us fellows in the dark a Link to a news article, or better yet, to a manifest of the order? i'm quite interested in hearing about this.

Edit : Apologies, when I first read this thread, I saw it as without replies. Seems like a Snafu; forget I asked.

 

[JorgSlice]

Was it so hard to do a search or even look on the front page for the thread?

http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/101505.0.html

 

[Caramon_Majere]

Was it so hard to do a search or even look on the front page for the thread?

http://forums.army.ca/forums/threads/101505.0.html

My bad, when I read this thread I think it showed as having no replies, hence why I asked. this is obviously not the case.

 

[Verge1993]

Just though I would share this picture since it shows the new ICUs.


http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/Sheldon_Verge/media/1074401_468196436605673_625630092_o_zps5050e3cb.jpg.html

 

[slayer/raptor]

Well by looking at the CACWO they still look terrible when they fade.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

The rank slip-on looks an awful lot like a 'target patch'....is there a subdued version for 'the field' (i.e. the current one) and one for garrison?

 

[slayer/raptor]

If you're in the field, in theory it will be covered up by frag and tac vests.

 

[Jarnhamar]

If you're in the field, in theory it will be covered up by frag and tac vests.

And promptly placed on the tacvest shoulder strap ;D

 

[Haggis]

Just though I would share this picture since it shows the new ICUs.


http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/Sheldon_Verge/media/1074401_468196436605673_625630092_o_zps5050e3cb.jpg.html

The Army SM is not wearing the ICU.  That's an interim/hybrid version shirt and current version trousers.

 

[slayer/raptor]

Yes it is the new ICU, you can tell from the angled zipper pockets on his chest, the cadpat patch covering his sleeve pockets, the collar and holes to put pens.  I have the interim combat shirt and its not the same.

 

[Verge1993]

The Army SM is not wearing the ICU.  That's an interim/hybrid version shirt and current version trousers.

That is the ICU. It has all the new features which where shown in a presentation about it.

Skip to 12:15 in the video. It's where the ICU is introduced and worn. Its the same Uniform which is in the picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=473A20b0Sxs

 

[Old EO Tech]

Looks like the final design was a compromise collar between a true mandarin collar and the old collar.  I'm sure that the AR shirt I saw at DSSPM a couple years ago had the short mandarin collar on it.

 

[Verge1993]

Looks like the final design was a compromise collar between a true mandarin collar and the old collar.  I'm sure that the AR shirt I saw at DSSPM a couple years ago had the short mandarin collar on it.

What do you prefer? mandarin collar or current Canadian style? I personally prefer mandarin..

 

[Haggis]

Yes it is the new ICU, you can tell from the angled zipper pockets on his chest, the cadpat patch covering his sleeve pockets, the collar and holes to put pens.  I have the interim combat shirt and its not the same.

Yup, you and Verge1993 are right.  I can see the details now on a real monitor.  Shouldn't have based my argument on a photo viewed on a Kobo E-Reader.  :nod:

 

[Old EO Tech]

What do you prefer? mandarin collar or current Canadian style? I personally prefer mandarin..

I'm partial to the mandarin collar as well, but I guess I'll have to wait and see for the new CADPAT to arrive and judge for myself.