It also replaces valuable land for actual crops of food that would have otherwise been used for that.
Global Warming/Climate Change Super Thread
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Halifax Tar
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Bring back sailing ships! Made of recycled plastic!
Sounds like a 4Ocean scam…
Halifax Tar
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I had to google that lol
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That critism is laughable. Basically Koonin is wrong because the science says so and "the experts say so". and saying some of Koonins findings are irelevant.
Meanwhile, read and listen to Koonin's material. It goes along with many other climate scientist (physicist, meteoroligist, chemist, etc) who all say that 1, the predictions keep ending up wrong (Hey remember the polar bear has been extinct for 6 years now, right?) and 2, they interpretate the rather inconclusive data very incorrectly.
Using the same "climate prediction models" and "climate science" of today, the whole planet should be completely under water or all life should be extinct based on how the last ice age ended (12,000-10,000 years ago).
Meanwhile very important global environmental issues like massive desertification is completely glossed over and ignored (that changes many local precipitation cycles very badly).
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me too
OldSolduer
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OK so Army Rick and I are crayon eaters - I trained him in that art BTW - and I have heard dire predictions from the climate change crowd for decades now. Yet none have come true.
BTW the earth is how old? And how many times has the climate changed, and it still here.
BTW the earth is how old? And how many times has the climate changed, and it still here.
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How many people are making big salaries off of "raising the alarm" about climate change ?
For a parallel point look at the money and salaries invested by LA to combat homelessness. Is there an incentive to fix the problem ? Or is the incentive to keep and grow salaries and departments ?
For a parallel point look at the money and salaries invested by LA to combat homelessness. Is there an incentive to fix the problem ? Or is the incentive to keep and grow salaries and departments ?
OldSolduer
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Well I reckon the same can be said for the health care industry - big bureaucracies that eat the money meant to take care of sick people.
Halifax Tar
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People get defensive when their way of life is threatened. Many a long term career has been built on these topics.
suggestions like this will get you on Greta's Christmas card list for sure
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A list I would not want to be on.
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Meh….she’ll have done something as an older woman that will have the Mid-lenials all pissed off about, and she’ll get cancelled…and so on…and so on…and so on…
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I'm shocked, shocked I tell you....
16 scientists slam a recent DFO report that found salmon farms had an "insignificant" impact on wild salmon infestations — claiming the report's authors cherry-picked data, ignored scientific consensus and failed to consult with experts outside the department.
A group of over a dozen leading fish scientists are slamming a federal study that found “no statistically significant association” between infested salmon farms and sea lice in nearby wild salmon.
The letter, signed by 16 scientists from the University of British Columbia, Simon Fraser University, and the University of Toronto, among others, said the Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) Science Response Report, published last month, contained “serious scientific failings,” including cherry-picked data and a lack of consultation with leading experts outside DFO.
The biggest flaw in the report, says Gideon Mordecai, a research associate studying salmon viruses at UBC who signed the letter, comes from evidence the report's authors ran multiple statistical analyses, picked the answer that suited their bias and only reported that.
“It's a scientific sin,” Mordecai said.
After the release of DFO's Canadian Scientific Advisory Secretariat (CSAS) report last week, the B.C. Salmon Farmers Association released a statement saying sea lice “naturally occur in the Pacific Ocean” and that industry “diligently practice precautionary management measures to minimize sea lice transmission from farmed to wild salmon.”
The industry group said the CSAS report is just the latest to conclude that open-net salmon farms have minimal impact on wild salmon in terms of transmitting disease.
“This comprehensive CSAS report adds to the nine previous CSAS science reviews (2020) on salmon aquaculture in B.C. that concluded ‘minimal risk’ to Fraser River sockeye salmon from all relevant fish pathogens of concern,” the association said in a press release.
But the open letter pushed back against the B.C. Salmon Farmers Association's claims, stating the report “in no way overturns the accumulated scientific evidence that salmon farms are one of the primary drivers of sea louse infestations on nearby wild juvenile salmon” and that “given the report’s major flaws, its findings are not suitable to feed into the upcoming CSAS 'risk assessment of sea lice in B.C.' or policy decisions concerning B.C. salmon farms.”
In contrast to the DFO study, a simple analysis of the report’s own results indicated an “overall significant association” between sea lice infestations on salmon farms and the probability of infestations in wild juvenile chum and pink salmon, said the 16 scientists in their open letter.
The government-backed report also relied on an unvalidated and out-of-date model of infestation, failed to report all the analyses and omitted “statistically significant results,” claimed the letter.
www.timescolonist.com
'A scientific sin': 16 Canadian salmon scientists claim DFO sea lice report was manipulated
16 scientists slam a recent DFO report that found salmon farms had an "insignificant" impact on wild salmon infestations — claiming the report's authors cherry-picked data, ignored scientific consensus and failed to consult with experts outside the department.
A group of over a dozen leading fish scientists are slamming a federal study that found “no statistically significant association” between infested salmon farms and sea lice in nearby wild salmon.
The letter, signed by 16 scientists from the University of British Columbia, Simon Fraser University, and the University of Toronto, among others, said the Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) Science Response Report, published last month, contained “serious scientific failings,” including cherry-picked data and a lack of consultation with leading experts outside DFO.
The biggest flaw in the report, says Gideon Mordecai, a research associate studying salmon viruses at UBC who signed the letter, comes from evidence the report's authors ran multiple statistical analyses, picked the answer that suited their bias and only reported that.
“It's a scientific sin,” Mordecai said.
After the release of DFO's Canadian Scientific Advisory Secretariat (CSAS) report last week, the B.C. Salmon Farmers Association released a statement saying sea lice “naturally occur in the Pacific Ocean” and that industry “diligently practice precautionary management measures to minimize sea lice transmission from farmed to wild salmon.”
The industry group said the CSAS report is just the latest to conclude that open-net salmon farms have minimal impact on wild salmon in terms of transmitting disease.
“This comprehensive CSAS report adds to the nine previous CSAS science reviews (2020) on salmon aquaculture in B.C. that concluded ‘minimal risk’ to Fraser River sockeye salmon from all relevant fish pathogens of concern,” the association said in a press release.
But the open letter pushed back against the B.C. Salmon Farmers Association's claims, stating the report “in no way overturns the accumulated scientific evidence that salmon farms are one of the primary drivers of sea louse infestations on nearby wild juvenile salmon” and that “given the report’s major flaws, its findings are not suitable to feed into the upcoming CSAS 'risk assessment of sea lice in B.C.' or policy decisions concerning B.C. salmon farms.”
Federal documents show data omissions, lack of scientific oversight, claims open letter
In documents released through federal access to information and privacy laws, Mordecai said he and his colleagues looked at the data and methods the DFO researchers used.In contrast to the DFO study, a simple analysis of the report’s own results indicated an “overall significant association” between sea lice infestations on salmon farms and the probability of infestations in wild juvenile chum and pink salmon, said the 16 scientists in their open letter.
The government-backed report also relied on an unvalidated and out-of-date model of infestation, failed to report all the analyses and omitted “statistically significant results,” claimed the letter.
'A scientific sin': 16 Canadian salmon scientists claim DFO sea lice report was manipulated
16 scientists slam a recent DFO report that found salmon farms had an "insignificant" impact on wild salmon infestations — claiming the report's authors cherry-picked data, ignored scientific consensus and failed to consult with experts outside the department.
www.timescolonist.com
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Climate change alarmists have surrendered credibility by reporting almost every weather event outside a narrow set of recent historical paramaters as "caused by climate change" and mixing non-climate data into their popular (most media) stories (eg. poor engineering choices that result in erosion and groundwater depletion). Science is a skeptical endeavour to start with; it's imprudent to trust any reported information among so much tendentious politically driven bullsh!t.
If predictions don't turn out, the theory either requires correction or is just wrong.
If predictions don't turn out, the theory either requires correction or is just wrong.
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And what could possibly go wrong?
www.telegraph.co.uk
Climate change activist goes rogue releasing ‘mini volcanoes’ to cool atmosphere
Experts in geoengineering say sulphur particle launches set dangerous precedent for private companies to interfere with planet’s atmosphere
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theres no reason to worry. The climates always changing. right?And what could possibly go wrong?
Climate change activist goes rogue releasing ‘mini volcanoes’ to cool atmosphere
Experts in geoengineering say sulphur particle launches set dangerous precedent for private companies to interfere with planet’s atmosphere
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Was in on a talk about atmospheric rivers attended by a lot of professionals in the field. They were rolling their eyes about how it's all tagged to climate change and said in the talk, that there is no conclusive proof that the atmospheric rivers that hit BC are linked to climate change, there has not been enough studies to prove it one way or another.
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Rainstorms in this part of BC go back a long way. I recall first hearing the phrase "Pineapple Express" in the mid-'90s. No idea what they were called before that - probably just "rain". Prevailing winds are westerly in this part of the world, and carry moisture because the large adjacent ocean surface is subject to evaporation. Clouds hit mountains, pile up, hit saturation, and precipitate.
Likewise, last season's exceptional fires across the border have a mundane explanation. "West slope fires" (west slope of Cascades) happen when prevailing winds are easterly, which is infrequent (dry warm air from interior of continent). But infrequent is not the same as inexplicable.
Likewise, last season's exceptional fires across the border have a mundane explanation. "West slope fires" (west slope of Cascades) happen when prevailing winds are easterly, which is infrequent (dry warm air from interior of continent). But infrequent is not the same as inexplicable.
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I grew up with "pineapple express" and remember the weatherman denoting them with little pineapples and arrows on his board. The term predates me, likley coined post WWII, when good meteorological data was more freely available.
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