G8/G20 June 2010 Protest Watch

[The Bread Guy]

<lesson learned tangent>
Remember the "even if we DID want to deal with black block protesters in our midst, how could we possibly do so?" philosophy espoused by some?

Here's a bit of a case study re:  what can happen when a group is unhappy with what some smaller team of troublemakers is doing:

Six local queer grassroots activists and allies protested the military recruitment booth yesterday located in the heart of the post pride parade celebration at sunset beach. Some of the activists were wearing Guantonamo bay detainee suits, and knelt in front of their table, as the others handed out anti-military propaganda.

Within 5 minutes of being there, activists were forcefully surrounded by over 20 hostile security volunteers. The volunteers immediately began to snatch leaflets from protesters hands as well as the people who received them. The volunteers asked them to leave the premises, telling them that it was an illegal action, then they proceeded to create a human shield that would not allow sight to the action as they shouted "[the activists] are not welcome here.”

The police were eventually called, and the activists were escorted off the grounds. While queer supporters of the anti-war activists followed them to show their solidarity with the cause. The juxtaposition was that the volunteer queers were protecting the state as the state sat on their asses and watched the whole thing go down.

Vancouver Pride president and full time reactionary alarmist Ken Coolen was especially hostile when confronting the protesters. Tension was high as this was not the first time Coolen had tried to infringe on the communities freedom of expression ....

Also note the "those dirty rotten organizers siding with the oppresive state apparatus" messaging as well.
</lesson learned tangent>

 

[vonGarvin]

I'm confused...Who was protesting what, and who did what to whom?

 

[The Bread Guy]

I'm confused...Who was protesting what, and who did what to whom?

Small group of rabble-rousers protest CF presence at Gay Pride Event, GP Event folks confront them and say, "not the time, place", called cops, had rabble-rousers taken away.  That was for those saying, "well, what CAN we do if there's people we don't want around?"

Meanwhile, more charges laid against one of those arrested earlier - this via Postmedia News:

A young Ontario woman accused of being one of the organizers of violent action during the G20 Summit in Toronto in June now faces 13 criminal charges.

The Crown laid additional charges Thursday during a bail hearing for Kelly Rose Pflug-Back, 21, of Norwood, Ont.

The new charges include conspiracy, intimidation of a police officer and obstruction of justice. She is currently in custody on seven counts of mischief over $5,000.

Pflug-Back is accused of smashing windows and destroying property at a number of downtown Toronto businesses including an Urban Outfitters, Adidas store, McDonald's restaurant and a CIBC bank branch.

The University of Guelph student appeared for the hearing in a green prison jumpsuit.

Pflug-Back is alleged to be one of the organizers who used anarchist "Black Bloc" tactics, in which members dress in black with their faces concealed behind handkerchiefs to prevent police from knowing their identities. The group has been blamed for torching police cruisers and causing at least $250,000 in damages.

Pflug-Back's parents, Douglas Back and Ursula Pflug, sat in the front row of the courtroom.

A temporary publication ban has been placed on evidence presented at the proceedings ....

 

[vonGarvin]

Pflug-Back is alleged to be one of the organizers who used anarchist "Black Bloc" tactics, in which members dress in black with their faces concealed behind handkerchiefs to prevent police from knowing their identities.

And here, ladies and gentlemen, the Technoviking unconceals Kelly Rose Pflug-Back's  face:

 

[OldSolduer]

Well done Techno!!

 

[vonGarvin]

Look at this photo:

Please note the flag in the background.  No, not the PRIDE flag, but the PLO flag.

I'm sorry, but if you associate with elements such as that, you lost, in my opinion, all credibility.

 

[zipperhead_cop]

She's pflugly alright.  Put the mask back on. 

 

[vonGarvin]

She's pflugly alright.  Put the mask back on.

Naw, she's just an idealistic 21 year old who still believes that we older folks "just dont' get it" and that she is the modern hippy.  I suspect that she's going to get a severe dose of reality, when her education comes crashing down and all her peers (eg: same aged students) end up going on and living their lives.

Irony: when she has to work at one of the stores she smashed, just to pay for more ear loop thingies. 

EDIT TO ADD:
I'm not much into profiling, but I suspect the following about her:
She's vegan or vegetarian, or whatever it is where you can't eat meat.  OK, she's an herbivore.
She's lesbian.
She's unemployed.  Or she works at PETA or some hemp shop.
She's from a rich family.
She always rebelled at home for "some reason"

Now, I suspect all of the above, because a quick google search shows that she's in the press more than once for "activism".  Someone that age with that much time on their hands has no meaningful employment keeping them busy (hence not gainfully employed).  Now, given that the meat industry is just that, and she's against "the man", well, she's not going to partake now, is she?  She goes to university, so I suspect her family has means.  And as such, her tuition (quite expensive) is paid for.  And coming from a rich family, she probably has two hard-working (workaholic?) parents.  As such, she had to jump up and down to scream (figuratively) to get their attention.  I suspect that this trend continued through her teen years.  This leads me to her being a lesbian, not because she is a lesbian, but because "coming out" to her parents as one probably shocked them.  Same with all of her tattooes, her ridiculously sized earrings.
Anyway, she is facing serious charges, is most likely a bit of a martyr to her peers.  Hopefully that once she serves her debt to society, she "grows up" (as it were), because I also suspect that she's rather intelligent.  She appears to be a "leader" (in a bad way, yes), but a leader nonetheless.  She knows what she wants, but in the end, I put it all down to being naive.  Unfortunately, for her, she's probably going to learn a very expensive lesson, because if she's convicted of these crimes, she faces steep penalties indeed.

 

[zipperhead_cop]

Unfortunately, for her, she's probably going to learn a very expensive lesson, because if she's convicted of these crimes, she faces steep penalties indeed.

Doubt it.  If she's as useless a ration converter as the appears to be, she'll qualify for legal assistance.  She'll kick around in lock up until the trial comes, she'll plead guilty to time served and agree to do a bunch of "community service" where she'll be such a disruptive beeotch she will get punted out with minimal hours served.  She'll be on probation for three years with some sort of idiotic condition like "sustain from deliberately creating public disorder" or some other unenforceable condition.  And I'm also betting she never pays back a cent.  Either she'll plead hardship and she can't pay or the Gothic nerd squad vandals she hangs out with will pony up the money for her. 

 

[Fishbone Jones]

That is not a vegan!

No one that 'normal looking' subsists on a vegan diet. I'll bet a dollar to donuts (cooked in animal fat) that she regularly cranks out uncontrolled flatulance caused by the digestion of humongous amounts of animal protien. You just can't subsist on greens and tofu and look that regular and healthy.

 

[George Wallace]

And here, ladies and gentlemen, the Technoviking unconceals

Looks like her "colleagues" in the background are also easily identifiable "Black Bloc" activists at the G8/G20 in much of the film and video footage shot.

 

[George Wallace]

The question of money was brought up just a few posts ago.



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G20 protester granted bail on $80,000 bond


Postmedia News
August 13, 2010

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A woman accused of being part of a group of protesters who caused $250,000 in damage to Toronto storefronts and police cruisers during the G20 Summit in June was granted bail Thursday. Kelly Rose Pflug-Back, 21, of Norwood, Ont., was released on $80,000 bond to her parents, Doug Back and Ursula Pflug. Justice of the Peace Lynette Stethem ordered that Pflug-Back must live with her parents, obey any rules they set and be placed under house arrest unless in the direct company of a parent. She must also be available within 15 minutes to the police if she's home. Pflug-Back faces a total of 13 criminal charges.

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G20 protester granted bail


By Linda Nguyen, Postmedia News
August 13, 2010

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A young Ontario woman accused of being part of a group of protesters who caused $250,000 in damages to Toronto storefronts and police cruisers during the G20 Summit in June was granted bail Thursday.

Kelly Rose Pflug-Back, 21, of Norwood, Ont., was released on $80,000 bond to her parents, Doug Back and Ursula Pflug.

Ontario Justice of the Peace Lynette Stethem ordered Pflug-Back must live with her parents, obey any rules they set and be placed under house arrest unless in the direct company of a parent. She must also be available within 15 minutes to the police if she's home.

She was also ordered to not contact any of the other suspected G20 protesters or members of an activist group she founded in Guelph, Ont., not possess any weapons or drugs and is forbidden to use the social networking site Facebook.

Stethem also prohibited the accused from organizing or participating in any protests and she can only be present with her fiance, Julian Icham, who is also charged with G20 crimes, in the company of her parents.

Pflug-Back faces a total of 13 criminal charges related to incidents on the weekend of June 26 and 27. These include eight counts of mischief over $5,000, one count of conspiracy, one count of wearing a disguise, one count of obstruction, one count of failure to comply with an undertaking and one count of intimidation of a justice official.

Originally only facing the mischief charges, Crown Attorney John Hely laid the additional, more serious charges in light of new evidence, which came out during the two-day bail hearing.

The Toronto police have still and video images of someone who looks like Pflug-Back smashing windows and destroying property at a number of downtown Toronto businesses, including an Urban Outfitters, Adidas store, McDonald's restaurant and a CIBC bank branch.

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[vonGarvin]

Well, one of my assumptions appears to be correct: she's from a family of wealth.

 

[vonGarvin]

Both parents appear to be artists, so maybe not the "establishment" types at all:

Mother

But certainly accomplished.  I wonder if Mom and Dad are proud or concerned about their daughter's "exploits"

 

[zipperhead_cop]

Well, one of my assumptions appears to be correct: she's from a family of wealth.

Not necessarily.  People sign "bonds" all the time and never put up a cent.  Basically, you are saying that you agree to be on the hook for that money if the person they are vouching for screws up.  The fun part (Go Justice!!) is that when the breach of conditions occurs, they don't generally go after anyone for the money.  So they could have put up a $10 000 000 bond and it wouldn't matter.  Now, if they had put up an $80 000 cash surety, that is different. 
Oh, and even if brat gets pinched breaching, her parents can hustle down to the police station and do a report requesting their bond be revoked.  As long as the report is in before the kid goes to court they are extra Scott free. 
So basically, the bond means nothing.  At least with her out, she isn't getting any dead time credit. 

Honestly, if this was your idiot child, would you bail her out?  I sure as hell wouldn't.  Nice message they are sending her. 

 

[vonGarvin]

Honestly, if this was your idiot child, would you bail her out? 

I would bail out my kid.  Then my kid would be begging to go back to jail.  Not to get her away from "the man".

But thanks for the info. 

 

[57Chevy]

Looks like her "colleagues" in the background are also easily identifiable "Black Bloc" activists at the G8/G20 in much of the film and video footage shot.

I see we are still encountering these hooliganistic bric and brac instigators out there.
I can't help to notice the fatty in the picture. The same that was all decked out
in black busting up something or other much earlier in the thread.

Oh.....Techno...I agree......Lesbian.......but could add "Man Hater" [the worse kind (of that species)]

 

[canada94]

This was scary times, both of my parents where there with the RCMP. Interesting stories from them.

 

[Fusaki]

$115M G20 class-action lawsuit launched
Last Updated: Thursday, September 2, 2010 | 6:16 PM ET Comments1Recommend1
CBC News

Two people who were jailed during June's G20 summit in Toronto have launched a $115-million class-action lawsuit against the Toronto Police Services Board, federal Attorney General Rob Nicholson and the Peel Police Services Board.

Mike Barber and Miranda McQuade, both of Toronto, are acting as representative plaintiffs for the approximately 1,150 people who were detained, arrested and incarcerated at a temporary detention centre in Toronto's east end after police clamped down on demonstrators after high-profile incidents of vandalism.

The suit was filed Thursday at the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in Toronto.

The plaintiffs said in a statement of claim that they launched the lawsuit to, among other things:

    * ensure that democratic rights and fundamental freedoms in the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms can be exercised by everyone without fear of detention, arrest, harassment
    * deter the defendants and any other public authority from acting in a manner that arbitrarily limits people's democratic and constitutional rights.
    * bring the practices of public authorities into line with the Charter and common law.

The class-action lawsuit is the second one in less than a month.

In a separate lawsuit that's seeking $45 million, Sherry Good is acting as the representative plaintiff for more than 800 people who claim they were wrongfully arrested during the G20 summit. That one filed Aug. 6 is against the Toronto Police Services Board and the federal attorney general.


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/09/02/g20-class-action-lawsuit.html#ixzz0yPnU7x00

I'm not surprised that there are so many people claiming to have been wrongfully arrested.  It seems as though cop cars were torched and windows smashed by only a few dozen people at most.  How is it that well over 1000 found themselves detained?

 

[George Wallace]

I hope the majority of these IDIOTS have their cases thrown out of court and are charged all court fees.