OceanBonfire
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I was always told coffee and toast was the in AESOP job description ? Or is that only when in the air ?
This is a great initiative and makes what was a fairly anemic crse for RCAF Log Os more relevant taking place on a base where they can actually engage SMEs and see RCAF logistics in action. Hopefully it is sustained moving forward.
Air Log personnel are predominantly HR which is of course an important aspect of personnel support but has little bearing on logistics. While there are great Logisticians within the RCAF, my personal observation is that HR dominance hinders development as the pool of mentors for folks doing logistics roles is greatly reduced compared to those developing in the RCN/CA.I have a friend who is a retired Sea LogO and he felt the skills and capabilities of an Air LogO was fairly diminished comparatively.
That was pretty much the way I saw/experienced it as well. It didn't help that in the the past the Supply course was just a huge policy and pam word control F search which any monkey could do. No MIMS now DRMIS, no indepth discussion of the DSC or supply chain principles, in essence no real instruction on how to do supply just loads of supply policy.I would agree with MJP's assessment from a historical perspective. More recently, there has been a push to create more rounded Air Logisticians who are more Supply Chain Managers and less focused on policy and regulations. The issues we are having is that one, the concept of logistical support is always an after thought in the RCAF, and two, we gutted our support positions at the tactical level, and saw a slow transfer to the Strat/Institutional level. This means that while lots of Air Logisticians learn the big picture of how logistics and supply chain management work, fewer and fewer understand how to support flight crews on operations. In fact, there was a time not long ago, where the divide was so great between the operational and logistic support communities on a Wing that Logisticians (Officers and NCOs) didn't understand what they were supporting or why.
I'm awaiting offer for log in the RCAF. What can I do to lean into an equipment-based or lso branch of log going in? I feel as if something more kinetic is my style; less so in the HR end.Air Log personnel are predominantly HR which is of course an important aspect of personnel support but has little bearing on logistics. While there are great Logisticians within the RCAF, my personal observation is that HR dominance hinders development as the pool of mentors for folks doing logistics roles is greatly reduced compared to those developing in the RCN/CA.
The flip side is while RCN/CA view admin/HR as an embedded function of leadership whereas the RCAF separates aspects of it formally, I have found RCAF bases/wings to be better administratively. Usually when there are complex issues it can be resolved faster and at a much lower level as there are folks well versed in our myriad of policies as opposed to hoping your Adjt/Admin O thrust into that role in the RCN/CA can get the right answer.
Sea Log is probably the most rounded given that they train in multiple disciplines at the junior officer level which makes them pretty decent as LCdrs
CA Log is firmly in the middle and really depends if they matriculate in CMBG/Svc Bn environment vs a CDSG in terms of gaining good skill sets at the junior level
That said regardless of environment or where someone matriculates, truly smart Log Os will do well in almost any role as the job is less about courses taken but really being able to learn, gain skills and pull rabbits from a hat as needed.
Just state a preference for LSO. HR which is really adminstration is imbedded into both streams. As a leader you will need to know and understand adminstrative direction.I'm awaiting offer for log in the RCAF. What can I do to lean into an equipment-based or lso branch of log going in? I feel as if something more kinetic is my style; less so in the HR end.
Ahh, this clarifies a perspective. I used to unit nurse and similarly, it helped to know how the brass and back end works. TyJust state a reference for LSO. HR which is really adminstration is imbedded into both streams. As a leader you will need to know and understand adminstrative direction.