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CANLANDGEN 011, 13KM RUCK MARCH TRUMPS THE EXPRESS TEST FOR LAND FORCES

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PoPo said:
Curious, do they not do the Fireman's Carry anymore during recruit training??

PoPo

The term "13 K march" is usually meant to be an all-inclusive name for the LFCBFT which, as stated earlier, consists of three tests.  The 13 km march portion is what usually sticks in people's minds. The fireman's carry and gravel dig are secondary.
 
And another CANLANDGEN related to this (fin codes, names and phone numbers removed - if you need them, you can get an official copy of the message):

CANLANDGEN 001/07
121230 Z Jan 07
SUBJ: PHYSICAL FITNESS EVALUATIONS - ARMY DIRECTION FOR COLS, COMMANDING OFFICERS AND CWOS
REFS: A. LFCO 24-02
B. DAOD 5023-2
C. CANFORGEN 087/06

1. LFC FITNESS POLICY IS GOVERNED BY REF A AND CF FITNESS POLICY IS PROVIDED AT REF B. TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE, AND TO ENCOURAGE AND REINFORCE A FITNESS CULTURE WITHIN THE ARMY, I AM DIRECTING THAT SELECTED SENIOR OFFICERS AND KEY APPOINTMENTS IN LFC COMPLETE THEIR ANNUAL CF FITNESS TEST FOR THE PERIOD 1 APR 06 TO 31 MAR 07.

2. SPECIFICALLY, I AM DIRECTING THAT THE FOLLOWING CF PERS IN LFC COMPLETE A FITNESS EVALUATION BY 31 MAR 07:

A. ALL COLS, REGULAR FORCE AND RESERVE FORCE;
B. ALL COMMANDING OFFICERS, REGULAR FORCE AND RESERVE FORCE; AND
C. ALL CWOS, REGULAR FORCE AND RESERVE FORCE.

3. THE FITNESS EVALUATION STANDARD TO BE USED CAN BE EITHER THE LFCPFS (REF A) OR THE CF MPFS (CF EXPRES).

4. THE FITNESS EVALUATION IS TO BE COMPLETED EVEN IF THE CF MEMBER IN PARA 2 HAS MET THE CF EXPRES INCENTIVE PROGRAMME EXEMPTION FROM THE FITNESS EVALUATION CONDUCTED DURING FY 05/06.

5. CF MEMBERS IN THE 56 TO 60 AGE GROUP. FROM REF C, CF MEMBERS IN THE 56 TO 60 AGE GROUP ARE ALSO REQUIRED TO COMPLETE THIS FITNESS EVALUATION, HOWEVER, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS VALIDATED STANDARDS FOR THE 56 TO 60 AGE GROUP ARE PROMULGATED BY CFPSA, NO CAREER ADMIN ACTION WILL BE TAKEN FOR MEMBERS WHO DO NOT ATTAIN THE 35 YEARS AND OVER STANDARDS.

6. FOR P RES PERS ON CLASS A RES SVC AND ON CLASS B RES SVC OF 180 DAYS OR LESS, FUNDING SP HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO COVER PAY, TESTING COST AND TD AS REQUIRED. SINCE THE TERMINATION OF CFRC LOCAL FITNESS EVALUATION CONTRACTS, WE ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH CFPSA AND DPGP TO RESOLVE THE TESTING IN REMOTE LOCATIONS IN ORDER TO FACILITATE TESTING OF P RES MEMBERS CLOSER TO THEIR HOME LOCATION. HOWEVER, UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED, LOCAL SOLUTIONS WILL HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT BY THE LFAS/LFDTS AND CBGS. COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PHYSICAL FITNESS TESTING OF P RES MEMBER ON CLASS A AND CLASS B RES SVC UNDER 180 DAYS ARE TO BE CHARGED TO THE FOLLOWING FIN CODE: .

7. THE RESULTS OF THE FITNESS EVALUATION, INCLUDING THE RECORDING OF THOSE WHO ARE MEDICALLY EXCUSED ARE TO BE ENTERED INTO HRMS BY THE APPLICABLE PSP PERS/URS/OR BY 30 APR 07. 

8. QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS ORDER CAN BE DIRECTED THROUGH THE CHAIN OF COMMAND TO DLPM 2

SIGNED LGEN A.B. LESLIE, CHIEF OF THE LAND STAFF
 
Oik....

So much for the exemption I got last year (for this year).

I AM DIRECTING THAT THE FOLLOWING CF PERS IN LFC COMPLETE A FITNESS EVALUATION BY 31 MAR 07:

A. ALL COLS, REGULAR FORCE AND RESERVE FORCE;
B. ALL COMMANDING OFFICERS, REGULAR FORCE AND RESERVE FORCE; AND
C. ALL CWOS, REGULAR FORCE AND RESERVE FORCE.

Hmmm.... what about the LCols Reg & Reserve who are no longer in a command role?
They're specific enough to withdraw the exemption from all CWOs but they aren't clear about applying the same rule to LCols. I can see where some, who have previously received exemptions, might try to weasel out.

Sigh - who said life was fair :(
 
Next year they won't have the choice between the CF EXPRES and LFCPFS IAW CANLANDGEN 011/06 221200 Z Dec 06, Para 2.
 
yeah - already discussed. 
Also, in LFAA, the GCmdt has decided that the basic standard was Express test AND LFCPFS
 
geo said:
yeah - already discussed. 
Also, in LFAA, the GCmdt has decided that the basic standard was Express test AND LFCPFS

Nice to see that he follows the CLS's direction to the letter. :P

Next you'll be doing the EXPRES, LFCPFS and the JTF2 test back to back.  The pendulum has swung again.
 
recceguy said:
It's what's known as the 'casualty carry'.

Actually correctly known as the "Casualty Evacuation".  But my question was - do they no longer do this as part of the fitness test during recruit training??

PoPo
 
During my IAP (Basic for Officers) We did the 13 km, as well as the casualty evacuation on the second last week of the course. This is the first I have heard of a trench dig.
 
PP

Yes, we do.  The basic fitness standard for all field units, now being applied to all Land forces personnel (incl blue & black attachments) is:
The 13 Km Ruck march with Tac vest, 50 Lb ruck, Helmet & C7
The Casevac / fireman's carry  and
The trench dig (or moving a bunch of gravel)
 
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