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RocketRichard said:Double zing!
George Wallace said:I don't think they are smart enough to be 'evil'.
Perhaps you can do me a great favour though; WTF exactly is this "Escalator Tax" on beer they dreamt up? Will we soon see a 200% Tax on beer?
Underway said:This story is similar. A record breaking shot fighting the good fight is something too crow about. Where, when, how are not in the briefing and I think this is a good balance. The public needs to know what their troops are doing, especially when they are doing things right.
Of which 'Commander' do you speak?devil39 said:Clearly can be construed as an OPSEC violation. Having managed a few OPSEC programs this would have never have been approved from the perspective of TTPs, capabilities etc.
But I guess when your Commander is aPublicity Whooresavvy brand salesman, anything is up for auction.
RocketRichard said:Of which 'Commander' do you speak?
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devil39 said:Clearly can be construed as an OPSEC violation. Having managed a few OPSEC programs this would have never have been approved from the perspective of TTPs, capabilities etc.
But I guess when your Commander is aPublicity Whooresavvy brand salesman, anything is up for auction.
Underway said:The largest enemy to the CAF after our own politicos is our own policy. OPSEC is a policy. Often its taken from old and out of date previous existing policies, with little application to modern technology or understanding of current media. Risk management in these cases moves to risk aversion which has a positive feedback into to much and bad policy.
There is nothing released here that was a violation of anything but the most overly stringent and anal retentive narrow minded of OPSEC. It happened a few months ago (time relevance), they didn't say the place. The range, capability, TTP's of sniper rifles and sniper teams are open source and can be found on any number of websites or TV shows, and most of the media reports of the incident interview former snipers to get a better explanation than what was provided by the military. Hell we talk about them here on any number of threads. The names of the people involved was not released. There appears to be no threat to a currently running operation or the persons involved, nor anything resembling significant impact on future operations.
No, not an OPSEC violation. Just risk management instead of risk aversion. We need more of it.
NavyShooter said:Fired a Timberwolf at 700m, and planted 3 hits in a nice tight group.
Looked at their culmination point data, and their elevations are just about half of what .308 match does, so their 'dangerous space' is much longer.
Culmination point on a .308 at 800m is about +9.5 Mils I recall. Their .338 was +5 Mils.
I've pondered the 'new ammo' option as well, and the numbers I put in up higher leave me pondering that a lot. The retained velocity and drop on a standard round at 3500m is just....incredible. Like I said, the dangerous space is sooooo tiny, like on the order of 30 feet. A 15 foot mis-range (that's 5 meters off) at that distance equals a miss.
Unless there's something magical (or really new/different) about the ballistics of the round they fired.
Jarnhamar said:Maybe the sniper used DARPA's homing bullets...
PuckChaser said:I also think we'd want it out in the open that our snipers can make shots out to 3.5km... kinda influences the enemy's decision making a little bit.
I have a feeling this is less about the shot or OPSEC, than devil39 having a personal bias against CANSOF/MGen Rouleau.
Jarnhamar said:Maybe the sniper used DARPA's homing bullets...
No one who knows you doubts that. Shyness, or an overly sensitive brain-mouth filter, have never been issues. ;Ddevil39 said:He's heard worse from me.