CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[Fishbone Jones]

I’d look at the French ASMP, especially if we got some Rafales. We could operate much more closely with the French around the world. I actually think they’ll be top of the European power pyramid…transact with them…



Back on the bus… lol

Yeah, but I can’t help this feeling that if we entered into anything with France, only Quebec would profit from it.

 

[Good2Golf]

Yeah, but I can’t help this feeling that if we entered into anything with France, only Quebec would profit from it.

Bring Quebec into the fold of have provinces and share some of its income back into the equalization game.

 

[lenaitch]

I wonder when the UN General Assembly will rebel against the Security Council, especially the Permanent 5. Will their elected representatives on the Security Council ever decide to disregard the vetos?

Now that Trump has joined Putin and Xi in demonstrating that they are both bullies and instable what credibility do they retain? All of them are also demonstrating that they are all hat and no cattle. None of them have the wherewithal to back up their bluffs. Putin isn't pushing any buttons. Xi is pulling out of Panama. Trump is starting to get whiplash from the number of reversals he is announcing. All of them are short of cash, soldiers and weapons, and I include Xi in that. He is still trying to build up his forces and, at the same time, looking for generals who will both show initiative and follow orders while building a modern army. I think that even now, with or without US help, though probably with Korean and Japanese help, the PLA would have difficulty getting any force across the Straits and lodged on Taiwan.

Are they as fearsome as they were? All three of them?

What happens if the General Assembly, together with the non-permanent members, chose to ignore the permanent members and act in defiance of their vetos? I'd like to think that the Brits and the French would work with the General Assembly. Similar dynamics created the parliamentary system and the primacy of the Commons.

I'm actually kinda surprised he hasn't ordered to UN to find a new home, in another country.

 

[Good2Golf]

I'm actually kinda surprised he hasn't ordered to UN to find a new home, in another country.

I’d anticipate Paris or Brussels…

 

[OldSolduer]

I'm actually kinda surprised he hasn't ordered to UN to find a new home, in another country.

SHHHHH don't give him any ideas....and we don't want them either.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Bring Quebec into the fold of have provinces and share some of its income back into the equalization game.

We really need that sarcasm emoji.

 

[OldSolduer]

I’d anticipate Paris or Brussels…

So conceivably the UN could sprout up somewhere else....

 

[Fishbone Jones]

So conceivably the UN could sprout up somewhere else....

You won't get any complaint from New York Parking Enforcement.

 

[Good2Golf]

So conceivably the UN could sprout up somewhere else....

It probably should…Moscow New York is rapidly becoming passé…

 

[Kirkhill]

I’d anticipate Paris or Brussels…

New York is Main.
Geneva is Alt.

 

[Good2Golf]

Geneva as CP Main would also work.

 

[brihard]

Back on the bus… lol

I’m not fussed about the dairy/poultry tariffs. Canada has chosen to keep an effectively closed market on those; reciprocity is reasonable. Historically neither country has exported much of that to the other. If the U.S. wants to tariff themselves out of leaning on us in their current egg shortage, that’s their prerogative. It’s not helping the massively confused messaging though.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I’d anticipate Paris or Brussels…

Montreal?

 

[GR66]

Montreal?

Alert?

 

[Good2Golf]

Montreal?

Whole ICAO is there, I’m not sure UN would go…although that would be a real political bitch slap to the US if it did happen.

 

[Rifleman62]

The marketing board can shift and use their surplus for powdered milk and powdered eggs.

We can distibute that as foriegn aid instead of cash.

They don't now, so why should the cartel change.

A study estimates that between 2012 and 2021, Canadian dairy farms discarded roughly 6 to 10 billion liters of milk, a value potentially reaching $14.9 billion, equivalent to 7% of total milk production during that period.

Canada exported almost $500 million in dairy products in 2023, most of which went to the U.S.

 

[lenaitch]

I’d anticipate Paris or Brussels…

So conceivably the UN could sprout up somewhere else....

I'll admit it took me more than a minute to get that. Well done.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

They don't now, so why should the cartel change.

It's a new world. They either change, for the good of the country, or the country closes their monopoly for the good of the people.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Jack Daniel's pipes in ...

Jack Daniel's maker says Canada pulling US alcohol off shelves 'worse than tariff'

Jack Daniel's maker Brown-Forman's CEO Lawson Whiting said on Wednesday Canadian provinces taking American liquor off store shelves was "worse than a tariff" and a "disproportionate response" to levies imposed by the Trump administration. Several Canadian provinces have taken U.S. liquor off...

ca.finance.yahoo.com

... as well as Mickey D/Chick Fil A

McDonald’s, Chick-fil-A warned White House of tariff dangers before delay

A day before U.S. President Donald Trump delayed tariffs on some Mexican and Canadian goods, a group of restaurant chains that included McDonald’s Corp. and Chick-fil-A told White House officials that the duties would have an immediate negative impact on the industry because it relies on...

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

I’d anticipate Paris or Brussels…

Any chance of The Hague?