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You guys i'm sure are doing a wonderful job.......there is really no offense intended....but you have to understand something that is very crucial right now....
i don't doubt your hearts or your intentions.......but the truth is that you are there as an extension of the bush regime...
you are there for pipelines and for oil...nothing more
it's not the first time that innocent soldiers have been used to make a statement or to gain power.....
truman was fully aware of pearl harbour before it happened......but he used it in order to be able to use the bomb.....
what has america been doing since that time......threatening the bomb....
you strive and die for the corporations that rule the bush regime....
nothing more.
you fuel the corporations ......you fuel the people that have interests and investments in armament companies.....
i can show you proof ......rational proof......but you have to be willing to listen.....

 
artsy, before you say anything else, establsih your own bona fides with your profile and your next post.  We've had enough ill informed college students trying to 'set us straight" in the past.  So tell us, what have you personally done with your life to think you can weigh in with such rhetoric?

 
::)

Where do these girls learn this revisionist history?  Unfriggin believable.  So nice of you to stay in hiding for so long (a whole 11 days).  Do you seriously believe that drivel?  

Where do you have evidence that we are in anyway an extension of US Foreign Policy?

Did you do any research into this Oil Pipeline and where it is to transport all that oil?  Can you spell China?

What are you major interests?  Do you have any?  When you have your first child, how will you provide for it?  Will you marry?  

.....but as you say you have proof, rational proof, we await with baited breath.
 
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!

*snort*oh, damn....*giggle*okay, *giggle*seriously, I'm fine...Okay. Now arty, go ahead and tell us Oha I can't do it! BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!
 
artsy said:
You guys i'm sure are doing a wonderful job.......there is really no offense intended....but you have to understand something that is very crucial right now....
i don't doubt your hearts or your intentions.......but the truth is that you are there as an extension of the bush regime...
you are there for pipelines and for oil...nothing more
it's not the first time that innocent soldiers have been used to make a statement or to gain power.....
truman was fully aware of pearl harbour before it happened......but he used it in order to be able to use the bomb.....
what has america been doing since that time......threatening the bomb....
you strive and die for the corporations that rule the bush regime....
nothing more.
you fuel the corporations ......you fuel the people that have interests and investments in armament companies.....
i can show you proof ......rational proof......but you have to be willing to listen.....

You do realize thet Pearl harbour came about before Truman right ?

You are aware thet the bomb was nowhere near ready when Pearl harbour happenned right ?

You know you should stop doing drugs right ?
 
artsy said:
you strive and die for the corporations that rule the bush regime....
nothing more.
you fuel the corporations ......you fuel the people that have interests and investments in armament companies.....
i can show you proof ......rational proof......but you have to be willing to listen.....

Anyone else reminded of this?
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[quote author=Tim Robbins in "Team America: World Police"]“Let me explain to you how this works: you see, the corporations finance Team America, and then Team America goes out... and the corporations sit there in their... in their corporation buildings, and... and, and see, they're all corporation-y... and they make money.”[/quote]

:rofl:

 
C'mon guys...Artsy has some good points... I'm converted!

Everyone together now:

"No blood for oil!"  "Bush is a war criminal!" "US out of Australia!"

Er, maybe not... My Birkenstocks are already killing me... ::)

you are there for pipelines and for oil...nothing more

Um, you know that there is NO pipeline planned for Afghanistan, right?  It was shelved in 1998.

truman was fully aware of pearl harbour before it happened......but he used it in order to be able to use the bomb.....

Um, you know that Roosevelt was President in 1941, right?

i can show you proof ......rational proof......but you have to be willing to listen...  

I'm intrigued....let's see your proof - I'm always ready to listen! ;D
 
I'm intrigued....let's see your proof - I'm always ready to listen! Grin

It's probably some multi-level marketing scam. That's how those things always start.
 
aesop081 said:
You do realize thet Pearl harbour came about before Truman right ?

And YOU know that Truman orchestrated the death of Roosevelt... don't you?

aesop081 said:
You are aware thet the bomb was nowhere near ready when Pearl harbour happenned right ?

And YOUR sources can prove that the bomb wasn't ready in 1939?  Right?  Can't they?

aesop081 said:
You know you should stop doing drugs right ?

And deny us this level of entetainment?

C'mon aesop81.  Who are YOU trying to fool?
 
This is a lot of evidence out there that the reasons big business supports conflicts is to win big profits, especially the defence/technology sector.  There's plenty of evidence of their skimming in Iraq.

But how does that relate to Afghanistan?  These 'guests' keep refering to Canadians being pawns of western imperialistic profits, but I'll be damned if i can think or or know of any making profits there, ...except maybe Tim Hortons in the future!

Wait! Thats it! This was all one big plot by Big Tim Horton to gain sole coffee rights across Afghanistan! Why didnt I see this before!

Okay, so I'll be serious - what big business ventures are the US businesses making a profit off of the Afghans?  
 
Oh come on now!!!

Didn't you hear about Juan Valdez dying on the news???

That means the coffee market is wide open, poppies will be supplanted by coffee bean bushes, Afghanistan will produce a value added product directly to Timmys in Kandahar!  ::) Sheesh...
 
Hmmm....last time I was in theater I never saw any oil pipelines or wells, nor any orders to protect them either.

But I'm a brainwashed "killbot"    ::)

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EXTERMINATE.....EXTERMINATE....KILL THE DOCTOR.....EXTERMINATE.....EXTERMINATE.....KILL THE DOCTOR.....EXTERMINATE.....EXTERMINATE
 
Gap: A pathetic imitation:
http://100megsfree3.com/glaw/robby/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/

Mark
Ottawa
 
MarkOttawa said:
Gap: A pathetic imitation:
http://100megsfree3.com/glaw/robby/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049223/

Mark
Ottawa
nonsense! The Daleks are the most fearsome force to ever be visited on the galaxy!
 
:o Twert me  Twert me

was that Franko guy!!! >:D
 
Centurian1985 said:
Okay, so I'll be serious - what big business ventures are the US businesses making a profit off of the Afghans?

Pet rocks.

With the 70s revival due to come back into fashion they must corner the international rock market.

(insert sarcasm smiley here)

I really, really wish that people would look at the specifics of an international situation before lumping them all together. Just because Country A is involved in Country B does not mean that Country A is involved in Country C for the same reason, or that Country D is involved in Country B for the same reason as Country A.

I'm not an expert on international geo/political machinations or military strategy so I'm at the mercy of my meagre research skills and as many news sources as I can find to get information. Somewhere amongst all that propaganda is the truth, or at least my version of it and no one is going to hand it to any of us on a silver platter.

 
:D My pet rock is still sitting where I last told him to stay...they last forever!!!

As for Astan, or any other similar conflicts, they generally have a whole host of undercurrents that few are totally aware of. That's why the saying " The enemy of my friend..(dang went blank...rebooting... well you know the rest), fits so many of these situations.
 
OKAY that was the funniest thread I have read to date!  I bet I woke up Hot Lips cause there was NO WAY I could read and not laugh my a** off.  That was too much (or not enough I can't decide).

Actually the first thing to that came to my mind when Artsy wrote "but you have to listen to me..." was...

HEY THIS ISN'T AMWAY IS IT?

:rofl:

 
TMM said:
I really, really wish that people would look at the specifics of an international situation before lumping them all together. Just because Country A is involved in Country B does not mean that Country A is involved in Country C for the same reason, or that Country D is involved in Country B for the same reason as Country A.

I'm not an expert on international geo/political machinations or military strategy so I'm at the mercy of my meagre research skills and as many news sources as I can find to get information. Somewhere amongst all that propaganda is the truth, or at least my version of it and no one is going to hand it to any of us on a silver platter.

Thats what drives me crazy - I was a strategic pol/mil analyst, and I have no idea how these 'intellectuals' can believe some of the fairy tales out there.  One conspiracy theorist article gets more attention and believability than a hundred books and a thousand newspapers.  Theres enough crazy-but-true stories out there already about how wacky government and big business is without having to make it up as you go along....

BTW, that left arm on the Dalek looks like it might stir a latte...another Tim Horton's link!!??   :o
 
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