Air Navagiton math test?

[elixa]

When I was selecting my trades the recruiter I believe mentioned there was a 3 hour math test specific to the air navigation field that I will have to take.  Does anyone have any further information on that?  If so would it be enough to brush up on basic math principals or do I need to get into the advanced math concepts?  I've struggled with university level math so I'm a little concerned over this. 

Thanks a bunch,
Charlene

 

[Astrodog]

at ACS it is 3 1 hour, give or take, tests... Not only on math, but on a variety of Nav related problems... The math isn't hard, but the name of the game is speed.

 

[old man neri]

It's all basic stuff with a few very very simple algebraic expressions to solve. The catch is not only no time but NO CALCULATOR. Better practice how to do stuff in your head or how to do it on scrap paper. The other tests you can't really study for, they deal with spacial orientations and what not.

Cheers and good luck.

 

[Magravan]

I'm inclined to disagree... Some things were specific knowledge that you had to have looked at it recently... and having been out of high school math for a while...

 

[Elwood]

I'm also writing the Air Nav test soon, and did a fair bit of reading on this site about what to expect:

It seems the best thing to do is to brush up on grade 11 and 12 math without using a calculator. As an extra precaution, I'm also reviewing high school physics (sweet... none of those university 3rd or Nth dimensions!) and I'm brushing up on the navigation I learnt in ground school. 

Many people on this site say that the best thing to bring to the these tests are a cool head and some quick algebraic skills.

 

[SupersonicMax]

Try to do enough of every problem to get a good idea of the answer (without finding the exact answer every single time).  When I did the test, I was able to finish every question in time and I was pretty confident of my answers.  Think fast, don,t waste time on a single question.  Those are my advises.

Max

 

[navymich]

I'm just glad it's a math test, not a spelling test --- navigation  as opposed to what is in the thread title. 

 

[aesop081]

I'm just glad it's a math test, not a spelling test --- navigation  as opposed to what is in the thread title. 

:rofl:

We are talking about someone who wants to be a navigator.....he'll fit right in

 

[Elwood]

Did you enlisted guys ever take the Nav O test?

 

[aesop081]

Did you enlisted guys ever take the Nav O test?

No...why would i do that , i'm not a navigator.

 

[elixa]

:rofl:

We are talking about someone who wants to be a navigator.....he'll fit right in

LOL...  OK OK, now in my defense I was at work, it was the middle of the night and had just spent several hours heading dreadfully boring essays when I wrote that.  (best excuse I could come up with) I hope attention to detail isn't a requirement.  :-\    I'm a she however. 

So do you take the math test at the recruiting center you're dealing with as soon as you're done the aptitude?  or done towards the end of the process?

P.S.  I made sure spell check was done this time.

 

[aesop081]

I hope attention to detail isn't a requirement.   :-\     

No..i wouldnt want my navigator to pay attention to detail, i dont need to know where i am or if we are in the right area to drop a torpedo........details arent important.
 
[/sarcasm]

;D

 

[elixa]

No..i wouldnt want my navigator to pay attention to detail, i dont need to know where i am or if we are in the right area to drop a torpedo........details arent important.
 
[/sarcasm]

;D

Phew...  that's a relief.  I was a little worried there for a second.  Then I'm perfect!!! 

:

 

[old man neri]

 

So do you take the math test at the recruiting center you're dealing with as soon as you're done the aptitude?  or done towards the end of the process?

The CFAT, that aptitude test that everyone in the forces must take, is written at the recruitment centre. The Air-Nav tests are written first thing Monday morning at Air Crew Selection in Trenton, On.

 

[Magravan]

From what I heard at both Aircrew and from another person who was only going for Navigator, you only go to Trenton if you are also doing pilot, otherwise they give you the test at the CFRC (In my case it was Toronto, not sure if every CFRC does it, or if it just so happened to work out that the one that I was from held it.)

 

[old man neri]

From what I heard at both Aircrew and from another person who was only going for Navigator, you only go to Trenton if you are also doing pilot, otherwise they give you the test at the CFRC (In my case it was Toronto, not sure if every CFRC does it, or if it just so happened to work out that the one that I was from held it.)

Actually ya, I think you are right. Totally didn't think about someone doing navigator only, my bad.

 

[kincanucks]

From what I heard at both Aircrew and from another person who was only going for Navigator, you only go to Trenton if you are also doing pilot, otherwise they give you the test at the CFRC (In my case it was Toronto, not sure if every CFRC does it, or if it just so happened to work out that the one that I was from held it.)

You are correct.  If an applicant is only going Navigator then they will write the test at the CFRC/D and will only write it if they meet the common enrolment medical standards.  It is possible that an applicant could pass the ANav test and later on not meet the aircrew medical.

 

[Magravan]

No offense intended, because obviously I don't know the ins and outs of it, but based on what I did with the test, wouldn't it be cheaper to give the test first? I mean, if you pass the medical and fail the testing... :/

 

[old man neri]

No offense intended, because obviously I don't know the ins and outs of it, but based on what I did with the test, wouldn't it be cheaper to give the test first? I mean, if you pass the medical and fail the testing... :/

Probably not. It would mean they would have to conduct about 3 times as many medical exams. Only people that pass Trenton go to DRDC in TO, there is a high fail rate in Trenton so if you do DRDC first then all the applicants go. So 3 times as many medical tests would mean, 3 times as many hotel room in downtown Toronto, 3 times as many x-rays, 3 times as many meal claims....etc plus probably more civilian specialist on staff at DRDC to meet the increased demand. I don't think that many people fail the medical so it makes sense to put the item with the higher cut off rate first. Besides, other than transportation to Trenton, I don't think Trenton is all that expensive.

 

[Magravan]

I obviously wasn't clear... I might have misunderstood Kincanucks post, but it seemed he was saying that they did the medical before issuing the test.... Didn't make much sense, logistically...