2025 Federal Election - 28 Apr 25

[Remius]

Maybe people indicated in one of their weird surveys that 2% nato spending isn’t that important. Canada First means Canada Alone to some.

 

[MilEME09]

Who cares when it's promised though? A promise is a promise.

Beaides the Liberal party is hardly averse to breaking election promises.

Why hold the CPC's feet to the fire for not promising when the guys you're thinking of voting for broke that promise over and over again?



Not to badger you bro, I guess I just don't understand the reasoning why people hang on election promises so much. Past behavior seems like the best indicator of future behavior.

name a party that hasn't broken an election promise, exactly why I say we need to see each parties platform. If we want to talk about past behavior as a future indicator, then the current CPC is not seriously a contender for government when it makes commitments that have not been thought out. By this I mean the capital gains tax deferral they are promising if invested back in canada. The same thing was floated in 2006, and rejected by the CPC because it would cause severe damage to the housing market. Without an exception for real estate that policy will cause housing prices to jump significantly not drop.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Being committed to 2% GDP hasn't helped the Liberals materialize that promise in the last 10 years.

Why do you think they mean it after the 4th or 5th time promising it?

It's like clean water on reserves or assault style weapons only. This liberal government has been lying to Canadians for 10 years. Yet some are suckers for punishment and will believe their promises again and again and again..........

A promise is a promise and a proof is a proof especially if the proof is a good proof.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

That's literally the opposite of what he said at the first ministers meeting before the writ dropped. Conservatives are spreading a lot of hysteria that Carney is anti oil but carneys statements and actions say otherwise. It really shows how outnof touch the CPC campaign plan is, as it's all about character assassination on Carney.

Take defense for example, the CPC is the only major party that hasn't committed to 2% GDP, and other then the base in Iqualiut, we have no idea what their defense platform is, or how they will deal with the deal challenges of the CAF like retention or procurement.

Nobody cares about the First Ministers conference. It was before the writ, so it doesn’t count. You seem to think when you watch carney actually say something or is quoted word for word with provable facts, it's all some bullshit CPC conspiracy. You think they got a carney puppet they prop up and make it say stupid shit? If anyone is out of touch, it's you.

Carney is not anti oil. Carney is anti CANADIAN oil. He invests in dirty, dictator oil all over the world, but won't support clean, Canadian oil.

 

[YZT580]

Being committed to 2% GDP hasn't helped the Liberals materialize that promise in the last 10 years.

Why do you think they mean it after the 4th or 5th time promising it?

and it is guaranteed for after this coming parliament.

 

[YZT580]

That's literally the opposite of what he said at the first ministers meeting before the writ dropped. Conservatives are spreading a lot of hysteria that Carney is anti oil but carneys statements and actions say otherwise. It really shows how outnof touch the CPC campaign plan is, as it's all about character assassination on Carney.

Take defense for example, the CPC is the only major party that hasn't committed to 2% GDP, and other then the base in Iqualiut, we have no idea what their defense platform is, or how they will deal with the deal challenges of the CAF like retention or procurement.

If Carney was truly considering reversing his stance on oil he had 4 months to do so: September to January. He was Trudeau's special financial advisor don't you think he would have spoken up about how the current policy was driving our economy into the ground. For so many it seems that if he says it, it must be true. Give your heads a shake . This is the same liberal party; it hasn't changed and it was the organization that selected Carney and arranged for his crowning.

 

[MilEME09]

It's like clean water on reserves.

Not a single government has solved the water issue on FN, it's a continued failure of our society. Most FN issues get ignored, we still treat them as second class citizens, possibly even lower. It's the underlying racism in our society and our government structure that's self defeating.

 

[QV]

Not a single government has solved the water issue on FN, it's a continued failure of our society. Most FN issues get ignored, we still treat them as second class citizens, possibly even lower. It's the underlying racism in our society and our government structure that's self defeating.

Oh FFS. Get off the racism train already.

 

[MilEME09]

Oh FFS. Get off the racism train already.

Pretending it doesn't exist is part of the problem, racism and political will is absolutely the main reasons behind why it hadn't been solved

 

[Jarnhamar]

name a party that hasn't broken an election promise

So we agree promises are worthless.

If we want to talk about past behavior as a future indicator, then the current CPC is not seriously a contender for government when it makes commitments that have not been thought out. By this I mean the capital gains tax deferral they are promising if invested back in canada. The same thing was floated in 2006, and rejected by the CPC because it would cause severe damage to the housing market.

When I say past behavior I mean promising electoral reform and immediately going back on it.
Or promising to fix housing and fucking it off.
Or saying no hunting firearms will be banned, then having to admit they lied about it.
Or saying there's a $40B "guardrail" then blowing past it by $20B.

Since you don't think the CPC is a serious contender for the government you have some options. The party that gave us the last 10 years or the party that kept them in power comes to mind.

Without an exception for real estate that policy will cause housing prices to jump significantly not drop.

IS this even crazier than re-hiring the former housing and immigration minister? Complicit in how terrible our housing market currently is?

 

[MilEME09]

IS this even crazier than re-hiring the former housing and immigration minister? Complicit in how terrible our housing market currently is?

Retiring a minister isn't going to on its own cause housing prices to jump.

In other news, PM Carney has returned to Ottawa in anticipation of of the US tariff announcement tonight. His reaction to them will be key in shaping his image and campaign.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Retiring a minister isn't going to on its own cause housing prices to jump.

In other news, PM Carney has returned to Ottawa in anticipation of of the US tariff announcement tonight. His reaction to them will be key in shaping his image and campaign.

I imagine it'll be the same for all candidates, not just carney.

 

[Underway]

Maybe I should put my tinfoil hat back on but...

Danielle Smith seems to be angling with her 9 "non-negotiable" demands for the next PM (some of which are really... dunno... odd). She been spending a lot of time visiting Republicans. Feels like she's shopping for a better deal or is setting Alberta up for seperation and joining the US. Which of course Trump would jump onto that. Perhaps this is why Trump is more in favour of the Liberals winning the election. Feeds into the long term plan better.

 

[Underway]

Retiring a minister isn't going to on its own cause housing prices to jump.

In other news, PM Carney has returned to Ottawa in anticipation of of the US tariff announcement tonight. His reaction to them will be key in shaping his image and campaign.

Is that tonight? I guess I won't be sleeping again due to anxiety. (edit: announcement Wed at 4pm)

 

[Lumber]

Carney will not repeal C-69 (anti pipeline legislation). He won't commit to a pipeline corridor and has said we need to leave half of our petroleum in the ground.

FFS. People are swallowing bullshit conservative propaganda hook line and sinker. This is nothing more than the conservatives obfuscating an issue by using bullshit buzzards to trick Canadians. They are lying.

Bill C-69 is NOT anti-pipeline legislation. It does not ban pipelines. It's a bill that changed the way that environmental assessments and approvals are done. What Carney has said is that provinces won't necessarily have to adhere to the processes laid out by this federal law, if instead they provide their own provincial environmental assessment. He's basically paving the way for provinces to potentially enact token environmental assessment laws so thag the feds cna wash their hands of the responsibility while still appearing to be all for strong environmental regulation.

But the conservative slap a made up bullshit name like "anti pipeline bill" and people to lazy to look into anything themselves believe it, and therefor when Carney says he won't repeal it, it makes it look like he's keeping in place an law that bans pipelines, when no such law exists.

Do better, people.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Retiring a minister isn't going to on its own cause housing prices to jump.

Retiring him was a definite improvement though

 

[Jarnhamar]

I guess I won't be sleeping again due to anxiety.

You'll feel a bit better if you fuel up your car.

 

[Underway]

You'll feel a bit better if you fuel up your car.

I will be in the morning. Quarter tank left. You're right though. Focus on the things I can actually control.

This year politically I'm going to try something different. I'm going to vote for the best canadidate in my riding. I'm not overly worried about the federal policies as they will morph and change. But I'm going to go and ask some pointed questions of some local candidates and see how they are going to make my life or the life of my neighbours/community better.

I think this will be a good thing going forward. I don't want a vote bank. I want someone who will represent me.

 

[Halifax Tar]

The way I see it this election is a vote for either the devil you know, LPC, or the devil you don't, CPC.

I can't turn my back on firearms owners or forgive and forget the last ten years so fast, but the sheen has also really come off PP and I'm not sure the current landscape is one he is capable of operating in.

I once again feel adrift on the Canadian political ocean.

 

[The Bread Guy]

It's like clean water on reserves or assault style weapons only ...

And yet, when Team Blue governments are at the helm, I hear WAY more about the bit in yellow (or other rules around gun control) than I hear about the bit in blue.

It's almost as if, I don't know, if Team Blue doesn't make any commitments on that bit in blue, it's not really important enough to press the team on, but it becomes handy only to use as a stick against Team Red.