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2022 CPC Leadership Discussion: Et tu Redeux

One of its Manhattan properties? How many do we have?
I would hope we have at least a couple given the number of Canadians there needing consular services, and the various Canadian liaisons and delegations present in New York. It makes sense to have some real property there as part of our federal government’s footprint. I’d say the same for several other major cities.
 
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Sounds like the consul is going to get an apartment that can also host some official functions.


I'm surprised that no one (either on this means or in the wider media space) has invoked Pamela Wallin as an example of profligate spending by the Consul General to NYC. Senator Wallin was in that post from 2002 to 2006. I remember watching, years ago, a "foodie" show episode in which the "chef" visited then CG Wallin's official residence in NYC (the one that is now going to be sold to pay for the new one) and in conjunction with the chef there (yes, Canada also hires a private chef for the CG in NYC) prepared a menu (featuring Canadian meat and produce) for a dinner party. That TV chef also did a similar program at Rideau Hall.

There is probably a lot of entertaining inherent in that position. In a 2003 G&M piece about "payback dinners", CG Waliin is quoted.

Pamela Wallin, Canadian consul-general for New York, hosts four to six events for visiting dignitaries and artists each week at her official residence in Manhattan. All of her dinner parties have a framework and an objective. Guests are chosen not on the basis of social chemistry, but for what expertise they can bring to the conversation.

Wallin's job is to facilitate and animate the discussion. "I think of it as a television show without the cameras," she said. As for the problem of payback dinners, Wallin says she can't remember the last time she was in such a circumstance. "I've become much more disciplined socially. In my current job, there is no payback in the traditional sense. People are always invited to dinner for an official reason."

But Senator Wallin's history as consul general was not ignored and became fodder for some media when she (along with a couple of other senators) became embroiled in controversary.

The Toronto Star has a weird article about Pamela Wallin, which it is giving lots of attention.

It appears that when Wallin was consul general to New York for four years, she had a big travel and hospitality allowance. And she spent it, on travel, for instance, and providing hospitality. Which is basically what a consul general does.

The Star doesn’t allege that Wallin overspent, or misspent. In fact, it notes, her successor spent in pretty much the same manner. And once when an air fare was queried, she voluntarily paid it back.
 
Sharing this tidbit here ....
... based on the party breakdown re: supporting UKR if USA decides to stop funding & get a peace deal by getting UKR to give up land.
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VERY specific what-if, but still interesting party vs. overall response.

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Sharing this tidbit here ....
... based on the party breakdown re: supporting UKR if USA decides to stop funding & get a peace deal by getting UKR to give up land.
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VERY specific what-if, but still interesting party vs. overall response.

Survey deets
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I would have thought that Conservatives would be violently anti-Russia (read: Putin), but then again I thought Republicans would be the same.
 
I would have thought that Conservatives would be violently anti-Russia (read: Putin), but then again I thought Republicans would be the same.
Interestingly there is a lot of Conservatives moving to a more local/isolationalist viewpoint instead of a globalists/interventionist viewpoint. Almost the exact opposite of where it sat for many decades when the Left was more local/isolationist and the right was more globalist/interventionist (Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.).

It’s only recently that change has come about, around the same time the blue collar union membership started swinging towards the rights as the left abandoned them for environmentalism and globalization.
 
NYC is the economic hub of North America and one of the main global hubs. It has multiple major international organizations.

Canada's diplomatic presence there is likely too small.
Don't think that'll be the answer Team Blue's hoping for by asking for Consul General & Co. to come to testify to a committee ....
We'll see if Team Blue downgrades to AirBnB accommodations in NYC if/when they take the helm ... #WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings
 
We'll see if Team Blue downgrades to AirBnB accommodations in NYC if/when they take the helm ... #WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings
My guess is that the paperwork will be lost in the transition, especially if the Consul-General happens to be CPC-friendly.
 
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The Canadian tradition of half-assing things continue. And the Canadian tradition of finding out that half-assing doesn't work, but we are too far in to stop, and the fix will cost twice as much as what it would have cost if we had just did it right the first time. #Canadaneverlearns
 
Yeah, some of the recent "speculation" post about what the CPC May or May NOT do when in power is worth a hoot. From the usual suspects to boot.
Lets focus on the current circus clown in charge who is hiding from the country, parliament, his own caucus and accountability.
 
Yeah, some of the recent "speculation" post about what the CPC May or May NOT do when in power is worth a hoot. From the usual suspects to boot.
Lets focus on the current circus clown in charge who is hiding from the country, parliament, his own caucus and accountability.
This entire thread is about the CPC. There is a separate thread about the LPC.

Why shouldn’t we discuss the CPC in the CPC thread?
 
Yeah, some of the recent "speculation" post about what the CPC May or May NOT do when in power is worth a hoot. From the usual suspects to boot.
Lets focus on the current circus clown in charge who is hiding from the country, parliament, his own caucus and accountability.
... There is a separate thread about the LPC ...
More than one, in fact, other place to focus on the current management (term applied loosely) team in place .....
... or speculation about what the next team in power might or might not do, during previous elections ....
... or on what's happening or what could happen with specific issues and/or incidents involving the current team
Or should we only just discuss the history of, and potential future moves from, some politicians, but not others? Good for the goose ...
 
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After almost a decade in power the LPC deserves the amount of shade it gets here.

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More than one, in fact, other place to focus on the current management (term applied loosely) team in place .....
... or speculation about what the next team in power might or might not do, during previous elections ....
... or on what's happening or what could happen with specific issues and/or incidents involving the current team
Or should we only just discuss the history of, and potential future moves from, some politicians, but not others? Good for the goose ...
Almost like there should be a “megathread” or something…
 
We'll see if Team Blue downgrades to AirBnB accommodations in NYC if/when they take the helm ... #WhyWeCantHaveNiceThings
They won't. This is a "look at what Trudeau did" moment. Nothing more.

When you consider that the Federal budget is how many billions of dollars.....9 million is small potatoes.

It sounds like a lot to most Canadians, but in reality in the international scheme of things it is pocket change.
 
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