Trudeau Popularity - or not (various polling, etc.)

[ModlrMike]

If Trudeau goes early, the NDP have nothing. The likelihood of them supporting the Liberals under anyone else approaches zero.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

If Trudeau goes early, the NDP have nothing. The likelihood of them supporting the Liberals under anyone else approaches zero.

There was a lot of angst and fornication over this coalition. What it did to Canada won't be forgotten for a long time. I think once the two key protagonists are history, it'll be a long time before we see it happen again. At least I hope so.

 

[Remius]

There was a lot of angst and fornication over this coalition. What it did to Canada won't be forgotten for a long time. I think once the two key protagonists are history, it'll be a long time before we see it happen again. At least I hope so.

That much fornication over that certainly won’t be forgotten.

 

[Brad Sallows]

#4 is false by omission insofar as it doesn't leave the door open for other causes. No one has convinced me that greenhouse emissions do not cause climate change, but it would be ludicrous to claim that nothing else could possibly factor in.

Not the first time questioners aren't as clever as they think they are.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

That much fornication over that certainly won’t be forgotten.

Not the first time questioners aren't as clever as they think they are.

As with most polls, they are designed to elicit the favoured responses to fit those that paid for it.

 

[brihard]

The budget could accelerate things. We know the CPC will vote against it 100%. Same with the Bloc, according to their own statements. Perhaps there's enough bad blood within the NDP, that people like Angus, with no skin left in the game, vote against it just to spite Singh. Budgets are confidence votes. If it gets voted down, we're into an election almost immediately.

An option, that I'm sure, would suit millions of Canadians.

Truth be told, I want the election to be called for the official date. I don't want to pay pensions for one term back benches, like my liberal MP. If they are any good, they'll be re-elected and get their pensions. If they are Sacko's and lose, they don't deserve it after one term of disappointing performance.

Sorry, I don’t mean in the sense that NDP will sink the budget. Zero chance. They’ll hem and haw and make noises and wring a concession or two out (all pre-negotiated), then they’ll say they believe there’s wind left in the lungs and that they need to see pharmacare and dental care through and push better housing work. In practice, NDP are only really relevant if playing kingmaker. A majority CPC mandate makes them all backbenchers for four years.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I think you are 100% right.



Just a few thoughts...

- I can't wait for Justin to step down as leader of the LPC. I hope Freeland leaves with him, but something tells me her insidious plans aren't quite finished yet...

- I can see him stepping down before the next election officially gets under way.

That way, the LPC's crushing defeat technically won't be on his watch & even though everybody knows he's the one who has driven the party to where it is now - he can, and most likely will, put their failure in the upcoming election on some issue rather than take responsibility for any of it


- I do believe that part of the spending in the new budget is specifically meant to screw over the CPC when they do take government.

The LPC has been in power for 9 years now, and not once have they ever given a shit about ordinary Canadians or doing what's in their best interest. They have, however, completely ignored the concerns and protests of the people as they've pursued their own agenda which is completely at odds with the values or objectives most Canadians identify with.

Almost $60B in new spending right before an election indicates to me they are fully aware of what a shitty job they've done thus far, and are trying to bribe Canadians to vote for them with their own tax dollars.

And also, they want to make the economic picture as bleak as possible for any incoming government so their efforts will have to be focused on fixing the economic problems they've inherited, rather than progressing the country in the ways the people voted for.


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Thankfully their mismanagement of the country has resulted in problems so grave and so widespread, and have been so blatantly illegal and ill-intended that their plan is pretty easily observable to anybody who chooses to observe it, to such an extent Canadians can't be fooled into believing anybody else but the LPC is responsible.

If they think Canadians will mistakenly start blaming the CPC for the federal budget cuts they'll have to do if they form government, they are mistaken. Everybody knows who's responsible for the government train wreck that is currently Ottawa, and it certainty wasn't Pierre's fault.



My unsolicited 2 cents anyway

It was mentioned that his replacement might be freeland. That makes sense. It won't be a long term, but she can walk away carrying the shingle of the Rt Honourable, the former PM of Canada. That gives immense stature in circles that place reverence on such titles and a coup for WEF, if that's where she lands her broom. Some people still seem to care about what Campbell says, after all.

 

[Good2Golf]

I’ll be curious to see who else throws their name in. Anyone running now or soon knows they’re running to lead the opposition, likely through a full term CPC majority mandate, and that they’ll have that one full term to try to rebuild the LPC and to make a convincing showing in 202…9 I think?

I think Anand is certainly smart enough and could patiently wait out Poilievre until 2029 and give him a good ‘far closer to centrist’ run for his money, than Dominique More of the Same Leblanc…

 

[daftandbarmy]

It was mentioned that his replacement might be freeland. That makes sense. It won't be a long term, but she can walk away carrying the shingle of the Rt Honourable, the former PM of Canada. That gives immense stature in circles that place reverence on such titles and a coup for WEF, if that's where she lands her broom. Some people still seem to care about what Campbell says, after all.

That would square nicely with the Canadian tradition of putting a female 'sacrificial lamb' in there for a short, humiliating, period of time before the next party takes over

 

[Cloud Cover]

This is one of the most brutal but well deserved attacks on Trudeau and his approach to politics and government that I’ve read in a long, long time. Which is astonishing because almost all articles these days tend to gut punch the Libs, this one is brutally honest and blasts them into little bits.

Tom Mulcair: Park littered with trash after 'pilot project' is perfect symbol of Trudeau governance

Former NDP leader Tom Mulcair says that what's happening now in a trash-littered federal park in Quebec is a perfect metaphor for how the Trudeau government runs things.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[OldSolduer]

"This pilot project to reduce waste at the Lachine Canal NHS includes the withdrawal or relocation of garbage bins as well as potentially new types of facilities in strategic areas of the canal. It is important to remember that waste management remains everyone’s responsibility and duty."

Sounds like a manifesto of some sort. Marx could have been a great flack for this GoC.

 

[Good2Golf]

This is one of the most brutal but well deserved attacks on Trudeau and his approach to politics and government that I’ve read in a long, long time. Which is astonishing because almost all articles these days tend to gut punch the Libs, this one is brutally honest and blasts them into little bits.

Tom Mulcair: Park littered with trash after 'pilot project' is perfect symbol of Trudeau governance

Former NDP leader Tom Mulcair says that what's happening now in a trash-littered federal park in Quebec is a perfect metaphor for how the Trudeau government runs things.

www.ctvnews.ca

And Tom does a “why Trudeau’s budget is hitting many of the middle class he swore to protect” assessment of Budget 24, where he actually gives some kudos to how Poilievre is keeping the Millenials and Gen-Z engaged…

Trudeau says Conservatives' vote against budget is a vote against 'fairness'

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is accusing the Conservatives of siding with 'multi-millionaires' and standing against fairness over their decision not to support the federal budget.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[OldSolduer]

We have friends that buy into the conspiracy that Trudeau and the WEF in cahoots to bring the world's population under their control. I don't believe it but we let them vent. For one - Trudeau isn't that smart.
Second reason is GREED - pure and simple. I think his wealth so far is under reported and he and his gang will retire very wealthy

 

[Brad Sallows]

We have friends that buy into the conspiracy that Trudeau and the WEF in cahoots to bring the world's population under their control. I don't believe it but we let them vent. For one - Trudeau isn't that smart.
Second reason is GREED - pure and simple. I think his wealth so far is under reported and he and his gang will retire very wealthy

There doesn't have to be a conspiracy. Plenty of "elites" behave like they favour super-national government.

 

[Kirkhill]

There doesn't have to be a conspiracy. Plenty of "elites" behave like they favour super-national government.

Double Plus.

If everybody believes the virgin must die to appease the gods then the virgin will die.

 

[TacticalTea]

And Tom does a “why Trudeau’s budget is hitting many of the middle class he swore to protect” assessment of Budget 24, where he actually gives some kudos to how Poilievre is keeping the Millenials and Gen-Z engaged…

Trudeau says Conservatives' vote against budget is a vote against 'fairness'

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is accusing the Conservatives of siding with 'multi-millionaires' and standing against fairness over their decision not to support the federal budget.

www.ctvnews.ca

I really wish he was still NDP leader.

So much more down to earth and credible than the champagne socialist.

 

[Cloud Cover]

I really wish he was still NDP leader.

So much more down to earth and credible than the champagne socialist.

I wonder if Mulclair and his wife ever hooked up with an accountant for some advice after his 3 back to back to back bankruptcies.

 

[Maxman1]

I wonder if Mulclair and his wife ever hooked up with an accountant for some advice after his 3 back to back to back bankruptcies.

And his eleventh mortgage on his house.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

I am questioning how much longer the NDP-LPC confidence and supply agreement will last. I understand some MP pensions are at in jepoardy of an early election, but I think t he connection is getting more and more tenuous.

We saw Singh break with support for the Carbon Tax last week.

Peak Canada - riding it out for the pension. That's gotta be the saddest indictment of just how pathetic our political class is in this Country.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

Peak Canada - riding it out for the pension. That's gotta be the saddest indictment of just how pathetic our political class is in this Country.

Don't forget the quietly passed Bill that moves the planned election day in 2025 to the right by one week, so that many MPs will get their pensions....