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Kirkhill

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In context, Denmark has been weening itself off non-renewable energy for decades. NG was never really used much there.

Denmark imports electricity from Norway (Hydro and North Sea Natural Gas), Netherlands (North Sea Natural Gas), Germany (Russian Gas, Brown Coal, Nuclear) and Sweden (Waste Incinerators in the middle of towns).

Denmark imported 20.1 terawatt hours of electricity in 2021, up from some 18.6 terawatt hours one year earlier. This represents the highest import reported by the country in more than a decade. Denmark imports electricity from Sweden, Norway, Germany, and the Netherlands.

The most important figure in the energy balance of Denmark is the total consumption of
33.02 billion kWh
of electric energy per year. Per capita this is an average of 5,638 kWh.

33.02 billion kWh is 33.02 terawatt hours

If Denmark, population 5,831,000, consumed 33.02 terrawatt hours but imported 20.1 terrawatt hours, or 60% of its electrical needs, how effective is its weaning programme?

The country is about 300 x 300 km and half of that area is under water.
 

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Hopefully Vlad takes a bath with his favorite toaster.
Ahem…not to nitpick… but for discreet bathroom assassinations I think SOP is a blow dryer or curling iron. (Although I guess when your bald, a toaster actually makes more sense than either of those…)
 

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May whatever power there is beyond us look favourably upon those Russian troops who saw their colleagues acting like savages, figured out what was really going on & refused to fight or abandoned post.

May those who committed these ‘crimes’ (for lack of a better word) burn where they belong. Slitting throats, executing bound civilians, consistent & horrific sexual violence committed en mass?

It takes a special kind of people to make the Nazi’s look preferable. F**k them.
 

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May whatever power there is beyond us look favourably upon those Russian troops who saw their colleagues acting like savages, figured out what was really going on & refused to fight or abandoned post.

May those who committed these ‘crimes’ (for lack of a better word) burn where they belong. Slitting throats, executing bound civilians, consistent & horrific sexual violence committed en mass?

It takes a special kind of people to make the Nazi’s look preferable. F**k them.
And yet it will change nothing in the west. The UN is powerless to do anything binding because of russia being on the security council
 

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My left sock could do a better job than the current lot.

Is it a fabulous sock? ;)

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May whatever power there is beyond us look favourably upon those Russian troops who saw their colleagues acting like savages, figured out what was really going on & refused to fight or abandoned post.

May those who committed these ‘crimes’ (for lack of a better word) burn where they belong. Slitting throats, executing bound civilians, consistent & horrific sexual violence committed en mass?

It takes a special kind of people to make the Nazi’s look preferable. F**k them.
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And yet it will change nothing in the west. The UN is powerless to do anything binding because of russia being on the security council
Real question… is there anything that can be done about that?

Especially if they don’t have the military might we thought they did…and what little they have is noticeably weaker by the day.



After reading the report in more detail, this wasn’t just a few bad apples. Nor was it a bad unit amongst good ones.

This was a clear & blatant disregard for any basic decency. It was evil. Pure & simple.


Imagine living your life & all of a sudden Russian troops show up in your town, murder held the people after torturing, raping, or mutiliating them…then being shipped to some place in Russia where you spend the rest of your life in prison.

You’re only crime? Walking down the sidewalk of your own town, in your own country.
 

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And yet it will change nothing in the west. The UN is powerless to do anything binding because of russia being on the security council

Revenge is a great recruiter, though.

It should make it easier to get 'money, guns and ammo' to Ukraine from Western sources, as well as steel the resolve of the Ukrainians themselves to win.
 

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Revenge is a great recruiter, though.

It should make it easier to get 'money, guns and ammo' to Ukraine from Western sources, as well as steel the resolve of the Ukrainians themselves to win.
Bingo.
I don’t think anyone expects Jack and/or Shit from the UN beyond a strongly worded condemnation letter.

However it makes it clearer for those in the Western world as to exactly what Ukraine is facing, and the fact that inflation being the greatest hardship we are facing, it’s a minor issue compared to what Ukraine is enduring.

Having to put on a warm sweater in the house isn’t exactly the same as having family and countrymen murdered and raped by a vicious regime.

I’m hoping it allows more people to see what Russia has perpetuated, and continued to perpetuate. Just maybe it will also make some of the Russian leaning countries rethink their allegiance, and make life in Russia a lot more shitty.
 

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Ahem…not to nitpick… but for discreet bathroom assassinations I think SOP is a blow dryer or curling iron. (Although I guess when your bald, a toaster actually makes more sense than either of those…)
Are these things plug-in?
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Real question… is there anything that can be done about that?

Especially if they don’t have the military might we thought they did…and what little they have is noticeably weaker by the day.



After reading the report in more detail, this wasn’t just a few bad apples. Nor was it a bad unit amongst good ones.

This was a clear & blatant disregard for any basic decency. It was evil. Pure & simple.


Imagine living your life & all of a sudden Russian troops show up in your town, murder held the people after torturing, raping, or mutiliating them…then being shipped to some place in Russia where you spend the rest of your life in prison.

You’re only crime? Walking down the sidewalk of your own town, in your own country.
You should read the article from (IIRC) The Atlantic entitled "BESPREDEL"

Take that natural organisational culture, Putins directives from above to cause Ukraine to cease to exist, and the Russian view of combat (total war, no rules) and stop thinking they adhere to a western democratic valve system.

ENTIRELY PREDICTABLE.
Can post the text of the article but it is quite long. Some extracts:

They call it bespredel - literally, “no limits.” It means acting outside the rules, violently and with impunity. It translates as “excesses” or “atrocities.” It’s the term Russian soldiers use to describe their actions in Ukraine. "Without bespredel, we’ll get nowhere in Ukraine,” a 21-year-old conscript explained. “We have to be cruel to them. Otherwise, we’ll achieve nothing.” . . . The servicemen say atrocities aren’t directly ordered from above; instead, they result from a Russian military culture that glorifies ardor in battle, portrays the enemy as inhuman and has no effective system of accountability . . . “What kind of human rights can there be in wartime?” said a 31 year old police commando. “It’s fine to violate human rights within certain limits. The main thing is to have them die slowly. You don’t want them to die fast, because a fast death is an easy death.”

In that context removing kids and re-educating them in Siberia somewhere is actually kinder than the alternative. Who wants to leave the next generation of fighters to grow up and seek revenge? Better to kill them now while you can get away with it.

Same-same Afghanistan or Iraq or really any tribally based war


 
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Some really interesting presentations on the Kharkiv offensive

UK Armed Forces Net -


France 24

 

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RumInt has it that the annexation will be completed on Putin's 70th birthday (Oct 7) so he can celebrate increasing Russia's size etc.
I am hopeful that Ukraine and the west sends suitably appropriate gifts to him or his residence.

If he DOES cause s nuclear accident or an aboveground 'test' on Ukrainian territory or a tactical nuke strike I think a collection of cruise missiles, one from each Nation that opposes Russia's actions, be targeted and launched against his palace on the Black Sea (which will minimise collateral innovent deaths and damage). To penetrate even to the loweest bunkers in order to ensure he recieves the message even if he is not there). And a mass collective launch from not only NATO but everyone else reduced his ability to retailiate against any specific country as being tbe source.
 
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