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Ship's Boarding Party [Merged]

Of course: It would look like this:

http://www.napoleon-series.org/images/military/organization/GreatBritain/Marines/RoyalMarine1815.jpg
 
And speaking of the RM:

Here is the parent group for the Royal Navy School of Boarding and Search.
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organisation/the-fighting-arms/royal-marines/1-assault-group/1-assault-group

It also teaches small boat skills ranging from RHIBs to Landing Craft, including hovercraft.

1 ASSAULT GROUP

1 Assault Group Royal Marines (1 AGRM) is the lead for amphibious warfare and Royal Navy board and search training. The group is tasked with training and developing core amphibious and surface assault skills and equipment.

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The Group is responsible for 4 subordinate units which deliver the vast spectrum of training and operations required in delivering amphibious and surface assault capability of the Royal Navy and Royal Marines.

Under 1 AGRM comes 10 (Landing Craft) Training Squadron which delivers trained landing craftsmen training as well as small boats, engineering and assault navigation training.

11 Amphibious Trials and Training Squadron in Instow, North Devon deliver training that covers the area between the craft and the beachhead.

The Instow squadron also conducts the trials and testing of future crafts.

The Royal Navy School of Board and Search at HMS Raleigh in Torpoint trains both individuals and ship’s boarding teams to conduct the full range of boarding operations that is required by the Naval Service.

In addition, 1AGRM is also tasked with parenting the Assault Squadrons of the Royal Marines (ASRMs) and their Landing Craft detachments which are assigned to the amphibious assault ships.

These ASRMs provide the landing craft and therefore the fighting capability for the Royal Navy’s Amphibious Capital Ships, HMS Ocean and the Albion Class Landing Platform Docks.

With ships being paid off I presume there are enough people available to man this "new" capability?

A related organization with local protection and boarding responsibilities is 43 Commando (Fleet Protection Group)

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/our-organisation/the-fighting-arms/royal-marines/3-commando-brigade/43-cdo-fleet-protection-group

Is the ANBP group more likely to evolve into an Assault Group that could also use small boat skills to land and support Army Light Infantry?  Or is it more likely to evolve into a Fleet Protection Group of RCN personnel dedicated to the security and assault needs of the RCN?
 
Nice to see this finally moving forward. I remember talking about this with the LT(N) Lund and his staff back in 04/05. Considering that ship boarding have been the primary operational role of the RCN for around 20 years, naval boarding teams were not given adequate initial training and often very little follow up training in the fleet. When I was involved with NBPs in the middle aughts, a lot of the training was handcuffed by policy based on fantastical and unrealistic expectations.  My personal favorite was "carry this long gun but don't put a round in the chamber. Use your sidearm for self defense instead."

One person asked what would they do when not boarding? They would train and improve their skills like any other front line fighting unit.
 
Journeyman said:
No one's asking the critical question.  Based on the overwhelming attention higher HQs are paying to such matters, the biggest issue is....



.....will they be getting special uniforms, badges, titles?  :pop:

:worms:
 
Journeyman said:
No one's asking the critical question.  Based on the overwhelming attention higher HQs are paying to such matters, the biggest issue is....



.....will they be getting special uniforms, badges, titles?  :pop:
Obviously the answer is yes.  They will also be eligible to earn the Army Marksman badges.
 
MCG said:
Obviously the answer is yes.  They will also be eligible to earn the Army Marksman badges.

If they earn a marksman badge, it should be the areospace badge vice army.
Shooting from a moving platform onto the same or different moving platform at
so many feet and a moving target...There's a reason we don't normally rely on scopes.
 
Just wondering if they will keep the p225, mp5, 870 and C8 or are the powers looking for replacements?
 
Jonsey said:
Would there be a reason to replace any of those?

Well I am thinking if the training is gearing up to reflect the changing nature of boardings (i.e. the Navy looking at higher risk operations) then having some members equipped with only a Sig P225 with 2-3X 8 round magazines might not be the way to go as in years past. If the fit hits the shan then 16-24 rounds is not going to do it for you. IMO having half of your team members armed with a sidearm only might need to be revisited.
 
Ex-Dragoon said:
Well I am thinking if the training is gearing up to reflect the changing nature of boardings (i.e. the Navy looking at higher risk operations) then having some members equipped with only a Sig P225 with 2-3X 8 round magazines might not be the way to go as in years past. If the fit hits the shan then 16-24 rounds is not going to do it for you. IMO having half of your team members armed with a sidearm only might need to be revisited.
To the best of my knowledge NBP training has always included P225, MP5 and Remington 870 famil for all members, regardless of the allocation of weapons during a specific boarding. I expect you're right that that allocation would change for higher-risk operations, but I don't see why they'd want to change the weapons themselves. The steel interior of a ship is a bad place to fire high-velocity rounds.
 
hamiltongs said:
To the best of my knowledge NBP training has always included P225, MP5 and Remington 870 famil for all members, regardless of the allocation of weapons during a specific boarding. I expect you're right that that allocation would change for higher-risk operations, but I don't see why they'd want to change the weapons themselves. The steel interior of a ship is a bad place to fire high-velocity rounds.
If I recall correctly, the second wave was armed with side arms only. However, that easy easily changed as the mission dictates.  I personally only carried a sidearm because it allowed me freedom of my hands while dealing with crew and I was accompanied by a long arm carrying partner. It was also counter to doctrine.

As you mentioned, given the fact that we must use fmj rounds, rifles are a bad idea in a steel ship. A level 3 vest will stop a pistol round but a rifle round will go right through it. The mp5 navy is probably the best gun for ship boarding anyway.
 
Im curious if anyone can give a sit rep with how this is playing out. I realize it has only been 6 months, but I haven't heard anything since.

Cheers,
 
Thanks for the post. Unfortunately I'm still in the reserves so it will be several years before I can even think about applying.
 
This is something I will be looking into once I get my boots back on the ground in Halifax.
 
Defintely something I'm looking forward to when/if my CT goes through. Watch and shoot I guess  ;D.
 
So will the regular Naval Boarding Party still exist or just the Advanced Naval Boarding Party?
 
WeatherdoG said:
Thank you for this, I shall use it to good effect on them... This is going to be a good day.

Do I detect a very interesting "wakey-wakey" pipe, in the not too distant future?  ;)
 
I figured I'd post a question(s) on this topic than start a new one.

I was looking over this medical requirements sheet for NCM's and Officers:

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-policies-standards-medical-occupations/officer-ncm-minimum-medical-standards.page

Does NBP fall under 'Combat Specialists' or 'Boatswain'? I only ask because on the Forces website NBP is listed as specialty training under Boatswain, but NBP seems like it would be a Combat specific trade. Also, Boatswain requires V4 while Combat Specialists require V3.

Are there advanced and specialty courses that have different medical requirements than the trade it falls under?

 
Naval Boarding Party training – a tactical evolution

By Lookout on Mar 19, 2020

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Imagery captured during the Naval Boarding Party Course Graduation at NAD in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Feb. 20. Photo by Leading Seaman John Iglesias, Canadian Armed Forces


MS Matt Swain, Canadian Fleet Atlantic

When Canada’s warships head out on missions to thwart crime in the global marine environment, they take with them a highly trained vessel boarding and search capability.

To generate these parties of boarding specialists is an equally elite, tiered training program delivered by the Naval Tactical Operations Group. Training starts with the Naval Boarding Parties Basic and Supervisor courses, and then a team training.

Three Naval Boarding Party (NBP) Basic courses have been completed – two on the West Coast and one on the East.

This fast-paced, physically demanding six-week course teaches students a variety of skills including legal considerations, searching techniques, personnel control skills, tactical shooting, comprehensive close quarter battle, and combat first aid. Each phase of the course ends with an exam that students must pass in order to progress. If the student is unsuccessful, they are returned to their respective units and, depending on the nature of the failure, may be given the option to reattempt.

The course ends with a realistic final exercise designed to test all aspects of the course. Senior Instructor, PO1 Chris Nowlan is tasked to ensure the course provides tactical realism and a challenge that leaves successful students with a sense of accomplishment from their hard work.

Graduates earn a badge, one of three skill badges introduced by the navy in May 2019 to recognize their specialized skill sets.

A badge is earned by achieving progressively more challenging course milestones that ensure students have the right attitude and motivation, regardless of rank.

In keeping with NTOG’s culture of invested small team leadership, officers are expected to both lead the team and, by creating a positive training atmosphere, mentor junior sailors to overcome any challenge they may encounter.

NBP training is for motivated, fit and adventurous navy personnel looking for a challenge. To ensure a successful application, a sailor should express interest to his or her immediate supervisor. They will ensure the chain-of-command contacts the correct people to make the registration on the next available course. Interested applicants must be current in weapons handling with passing grades on C8/Sig Sauer refresher training within the past 24 months. They must be comfortable with heights or in confined spaces. An NETP qualification and currency in standard first aid are also pre-requisites. It should also be noted that, while there is no minimum physical fitness standard, past graduates would concede that potential applicants, who arrive for the course prepared for a physical and mental challenge, will enjoy the course more than those who struggle on Day One.


What the students say:

Able Seaman Saif Morsy, after completing the course on Feb. 20 in Halifax

“What set the tone for me at the start of the course was how [the staff] made a point to say they wanted to give us a product that we could be proud of, and that was evident throughout the entire course…Safety and respect were at the forefront of every lesson and there was never a point where I felt (the course) compromised either of them. Training was scaled to the ability of the students, which gave people who had less experience more time and confidence to hone skills for assessments. It genuinely felt like an environment that students could grow in, whether it was through a leadership role or developing assertiveness through team focused skills.”


SLt Tori Brown, one of two women who successfully passed and was badged upon graduating

“When I heard I was going to be on the first NBP Basic Course taught by NTOG, I was a little intimidated. I knew that the NBP course was challenging, but I wondered what was to come now that NTOG was taking over. This was the most challenging course I’ve done in my career, but it was also the most rewarding. I take a lot of pride in myself and everyone who graduated the course. The instructors had high expectations but were 100 per cent invested in everyone’s success and worked hard to ensure all students reached their full potential.”

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First course taught by Naval Tactical Operations group instructors on the east coast

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http://www.lookoutnewspaper.com/naval-boarding-party-training-tactical-evolution/

https://www.facebook.com/RoyalCanadianNavy/posts/1085426325152435
 
I've found these short NTOG episodes pretty good.  They don't elaborate much outside of what we already know, but entertaining & good for recruiting I'd say 


Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtQKGU5GmjM


Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAdYmfhhFUg


Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67MuMRbcdRM
 
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