One of Canada's New Navy Ships Stopped in Hawaii After Taking on Water- July 23/ 2024

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Not great press.....

One of Canada's new navy ships stopped in Hawaii after taking on water

OTTAWA - One of the country's newest navy ships is tied up in a U.S. port after it sprung a leak and took on 20,000 litres of water.

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

They make it sound so bad by using liters. In cubic meters, it's near insignificant: 20 cubic meters is like your 12 foot diameter pool's contents, and all in the bilges. A valve broke - it happens - big deal! It's nothing for a 6700 tons displacement vessel.

 

[brihard]

They make it sound so bad by using liters. In cubic meters, it's near insignificant: 20 cubic meters is like your 12 foot diameter pool's contents, and all in the bilges. A valve broke - it happens - big deal! It's nothing for a 6700 tons displacement vessel.

Not a boatologist; are the described issues legitimately not a big deal save for a routine maintenance stop that just so happens to be Hawaii?

 

[OldSolduer]

They make it sound so bad by using liters. In cubic meters, it's near insignificant: 20 cubic meters is like your 12 foot diameter pool's contents, and all in the bilges. A valve broke - it happens - big deal! It's nothing for a 6700 tons displacement vessel.

My daughter's above ground pool is a 20,000 liter pool. It ain't that much and I am a landlubber.

 

[Halifax Tar]

They make it sound so bad by using liters. In cubic meters, it's near insignificant: 20 cubic meters is like your 12 foot diameter pool's contents, and all in the bilges. A valve broke - it happens - big deal! It's nothing for a 6700 tons displacement vessel.

You're right, these vessels have been problem free and Irving and produced another high quality product. This is simply a one off event for the class.

Move along.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

You're right, these vessels have been problem free and Irving and produced another high quality product. This is simply a one off event for the class.

Move along.

We must demand that Irving uses a better grade of cardboard.

 

[NavyHopeful]

On time and under budget...

 

[Halifax Tar]

On time and under budget...

And since they have left the Irving yard we know how and why they could say that.

Actual footage of Irving telling the RCN to come get their ship:

 

[Rainbow1910]

Not to absolve Irving of their very real problems however, the fact this is a news story just shows how little interest the media has in the Canadian Forces unless it’s something they can rag on them for. There is nothing here that threatens the integrity of the vessel, nor is it especially abnormal to have vessels see issues like this over time.

It’s weird to make entire articles about it with headlines and act like the sky is falling. There is certain parties within the Canadian media who have a major axe to grind and never miss an opportunity to get their digs in.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Not to absolve Irving of their very real problems however, the fact this is a news story just shows how little interest the media has in the Canadian Forces unless it’s something they can rag on them for. There is nothing here that threatens the integrity of the vessel, nor is it especially abnormal to have vessels see issues like this over time.

It’s weird to make entire articles about it with headlines and act like the sky is falling. There is certain parties within the Canadian media who have a major axe to grind and never miss an opportunity to get their digs in.

Sure, but Canadian Wardship Doesn't Spring a Leak, while rare this days, isn't a headline.

And I don't read it as an afront to the CAF, I read it as an afront to Irving and our procurement system.

And if you get bigger, the news is basically a constant stream of negative. Why ? Because that's what sells. So blame your fellow countrymen who gobble negativity up.

 

[Furniture]

It was more than just a leak, but it wasn't a "near miss" either. MAX is back at sea now, RIMPACing with the others.

The media loves to sensationalize stories to wring every drop of blood from them they can.

 

[OldSolduer]

RIMPACing with the others.

RIMPACing.....tee hee....

I know I know - its juvenile.....

 

[brihard]

RIMPACing.....tee hee....

I know I know - its juvenile.....

It’s a mouthful.

Was simply RIMming already taken?

 

[AmmoTech90]

It’s a mouthful.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

It was more than just a leak, but it wasn't a "near miss" either. MAX is back at sea now, RIMPACing with the others.

The media loves to sensationalize stories to wring every drop of blood from them they can.

The media will fill the void, the PAO need to beat them to the punch and not hope that the information won't hit social media. Even if you have an excellent PAO, the system I suspect will not let them act in a timely manner.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Not to absolve Irving of their very real problems however, the fact this is a news story just shows how little interest the media has in the Canadian Forces unless it’s something they can rag on them for. There is nothing here that threatens the integrity of the vessel, nor is it especially abnormal to have vessels see issues like this over time.

It’s weird to make entire articles about it with headlines and act like the sky is falling. There is certain parties within the Canadian media who have a major axe to grind and never miss an opportunity to get their digs in.

To be fair, this is still a new ship, so valves and pipes shouldn't be failing like this already, and this isn't a one off with the class.

It happened at a particularly bad spot, so they had to go to port to get a cofferdam fitted on the sea bay to do the repair.

Some of the sea water systems have dissimilar metals in them, which has been a long and costly issue on the MCDVs. Really glad we built to 'class', and didn't need to worry about including additional requirements to avoid bad design and material selection issues that have come up in the past (on other ships built to class).

 

[Furniture]

RIMPACing.....tee hee....

I know I know - its juvenile.....

I chose my wording intentionally...

 

[NavyHopeful]

To be fair, this is still a new ship, so valves and pipes shouldn't be failing like this already, and this isn't a one off with the class.

It happened at a particularly bad spot, so they had to go to port to get a cofferdam fitted on the sea bay to do the repair.

Some of the sea water systems have dissimilar metals in them, which has been a long and costly issue on the MCDVs. Really glad we built to 'class', and didn't need to worry about including additional requirements to avoid bad design and material selection issues that have come up in the past (on other ships built to class).

Something tells me that there was no follow-up on the previous lessons learned...

 

[Underway]

Ships on their way home. All cleaned up and mitigation put in place.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Something tells me that there was no follow-up on the previous lessons learned...

That would require a open communication and learning environment, like when your ship catches fire, afterwards, you openly share the report so people can learn what went right and wrong and how to avoid catching fire in the first place.