Making of a Royal Marines Officer

[tomahawk6]

I was surprised to see that these new officers started training as a LT. Is this the norm ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv-pxrUNhmw

 

[daftandbarmy]

I was surprised to see that these new officers started training as a LT. Is this the norm ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv-pxrUNhmw

Probably commissioned from the ranks, or 'SCC'. CTCRM is Commando Training Centre Royal Marines.

'Senior Corps Commission (SCC) Regular RM: WO2s and below join CTCRM as a Lieutenant with 6 months' seniority.'

https://www.royalmarines.uk/threads/pay-and-ranking-timescale-for-r-m-r-officer.92246/

Firstly there is no Direct Entry route for RMR Officers and RMR Officers are usually employed in the G4 support role rather than as Troop Commanders. The first opportunity for RMR Other Ranks to apply for Officer is after completion of RMR phase one training.

Once trained, RMR Officers can also train as Forward Air Controllers, Landing Craft Officers, CIMIC (Civilian/Military Co-operation), Media Operations or Liaison Officers, besides RMR OR specialisations, but Intelligence as a standalone spec is not listed.

RMR Officers are promoted to the rank of Captain after three years as a Lieutenant. Junior Officers then participate in the RMR Officer Career Development Programme (OCD); this programme provides the basis for developing an officer's career as a junior staff officer. Subsequent promotion is by selection from those officers who have attained the required seniority and attended the required UK Staff Officer Courses or an equivalent course at a Foreign Staff College (e.g. United States Marine Corps at Quantico, Virginia.). Experienced RMR Lieutenant Colonels, who have completed further Staff and Command Courses, may be selected by the Commandant General Royal Marines (CGRM) to command RMR Units.

Direct Entry Regular RM Officers

All RM Young Officers join as Second Lieutenant. After 2 years’ service and successful completion of Phase 2 training they are promoted to Lieutenant, three years after promotion to Lieutenant, direct entry officers are promoted to Captain.

Corps Commission RM & RMR (CC):

Age on entry to the Officer Corps. RM OR candidates must be aged over 17 and below the age of 26 for regulars, 30 for Reserves, on the first day of the month that officer training commences.

Other ranks promoted via the CC scheme will be awarded the same rank and seniority on entry as their Direct Entry officer counterparts in the regular service.

Senior Corps Commission (SCC) Regular RM:

WO2s and below join CTCRM as a Lieutenant with 6 months' seniority. Individuals are eligible for promotion to the rank of Captain on attaining 30 months' seniority as a Lieutenant (i.e. 2 years after joining the Officer Corps). On promotion to Lieutenant, officers are awarded an additional year's seniority and are therefore eligible to enter the Captain-Major promotion zone 3 years later (on attaining a total of 4 years' seniority as a Captain).

All WO1s (bar former Corps Regimental Sergeant Majors) join CTCRM as a Lieutenant with 18 months' seniority. Individuals are eligible for promotion to the rank of Captain on attaining 30 months' seniority as a Lieutenant (i.e. 1 year after joining the Officer Corps). On promotion to Captain, officers are awarded an additional year's seniority and are therefore eligible to enter the Captain-Major promotion zone 3 years later (on attaining a total of 4 years seniority as a Captain).

Former Corps Regimental Sergeant Majors join CTCRM directly as a Captain with one year's seniority and are eligible to enter the Captain-Major promotion zone 3 years later (on attaining a total of 4 years' seniority as a Captain).

Pages 64 & 65 of the Armed Forces Pay Review Body gives exact rates of pay for Officers under the New Employment model, it's the same for regulars and reservists, regardless of age; https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...9_Armed_Forces_Pay_Review_2016_Accessible.pdf

Basically a RM Officer currently starts on £25, 727
Increasing one year later to £30,923
Increasing one year later to £32,009
Increasing one year later to £33,094
Increasing one year later to £34,180
Followed by Promotion and increasing to £39,629 for two years
Increasing one year later to £40,879
Increasing one year later to £42,128 etc., etc.'

 

[tomahawk6]

Thanks for the edification !!

 

[daftandbarmy]

Thanks for the edification !!

My pleasure!

FWIW, I think that program on 'making a RM Officer' is quite cheesy. I send pieces of it to RM mates of mine, from time to time, just to keep them humble

 

[tomahawk6]

I like this approach to training young officers.Make them a Lt as many are paid near that in ROTC or West Point. If they progress make them a 1st Lt if they fail then they resign their commission.