Thanks for that! You really summed it up with the "stations of the cross" phrase. I don't care to assume whether Binrat has been posted to Cold Lake, but my "generalizations" are based not on "a few pers" but on the majority of the MOC 500 Series I've met in my eight years here. The people who come to CL as a first posting and leave less than 4-6 years are few and far between. They had surrounding circumstances like family issues, compassionate situations, career progression/succession, service couples, etc. Between type course, AGYS training, load course for AWST and minimum two years to get A Levels you find yourself fairly qualified after 3-5 years. Couple that with always being short in manning and the chance of them posting you "just because" are quite slim, and worse for AWST than AVS/AVN. I've been told that unless you have a serious issue you're wasting your time going to a CM interview looking for a posting out if you've been a Cpl for a few years and hold level A's but they have no issue for postings elsewhere on base to different units. (And that's been fairly accurate in most respects) Even support trades are in the same boat. Most clerks and supply techs I know here are averaging 8-10 years here. Come to CL as a Pte, move around the wing and leave CL (or not) as a Sgt/WO.