Feds to announce home bases for new fighter jets

[Good2Golf]

"You're buying a house beside an airport/impact area" waivers mean NOTHING. 

Everyone loves to be protected, but loves even more not being inconvenienced by the training/operation of those protecting them.  CF units across the country are continually affected by people who bought "just down the road" and don't want to hear the sound of freedom, even the "high-speed, low-drag, no-sparks" folks have to move because of the owners of the big, glitzy houses beside them that were built well after the original facilities were constructed and employed.


GK.Dundas is bang on with this bit!!!

...As an aside most MP's view 1 letter or phone call as the equivalent of 1000 calls or letter...

Cheers
G2G

 

[Newt]

Wait... what?

Two Members of Parliament (avec assorted handlers and assistants) have to be transported to two separate Wings to release the same statement? This very important statement is that the fighter bases for the new fighters will be: (drum roll) The same as the bases for the old fighters!

Wow. Just wow.

 

[medicineman]

Yeah, on the bright side, they're going to Bagotville and Mold Lake - not exactly the junkets taggers on hope for.  Pity Goose Bay or Iqualuit aren't being included - crappy weather season is almost upon them  ;D.

MM

 

[Strike]

I know residents of Smuggler's Cove in Kingston sign a waiver stating they will not complain about the aircraft noise.  There are also certain locations in Moose Jaw where one cannot insure their house for damage due to falling aircraft parts as they are under a flight path.

People can be really stupid.  I recall taking complains from people about the Sea Kings conducting water bird training in the lake behind the airfield.  Wait a sec.  Shearwater was one of the first airfields in Canada.  Where was your house when the airfield came in to being?

 

[FoverF]

When chicken number 1 hatches, we'll have him nest on the top shelf.
And when chicken number 2 hatches, we'll have her nest on the bottom shelf.
And when chicken number 3 hatches, we'll have him nest next to chicken number one on the top shelf.
We'll eat chicken number 4, because it will be biggest.


I'll just go ahead and hold my breath now, since it's a done deal for the government 2 successive elections from now to go ahead and put 65 fighters on the ramp at Cold Lake and Bagotville...

 

[captloadie]

We must also remember what the main role of the fighters in Canada is protecting our sovereignty. The only real threat comes from the North, so you need to position the aircraft somewhere they can respond within range of the threat and the home base. Most of our big cities are in the south, geographically separated from any threat you would need a fighter jet to respond to, or close enough for Big Brother to scramble birds if required.

 

[Rogo]

To the earlier comment about having  bases on east/west coast, north and  down in Ontario.  I figure if there are any A/C that require to be "intercepted" or "escorted" or whatever the politically correct term is, the US will jump on them asap. Unless a plane takes off in Buffalo and heads straight to Toronto, we should be okay.

 

[Brutus]

To the earlier comment about having  bases on east/west coast, north and  down in Ontario.  I figure if there are any A/C that require to be "intercepted" or "escorted" or whatever the politically correct term is, the US will jump on them asap. Unless a plane takes off in Buffalo and heads straight to Toronto, we should be okay.

Yes, but wouldn't it be nice to not have to rely on others for this? Also, I can't think of a better distribution based on any real threat of attack.

 

[PuckChaser]

Yes, but wouldn't it be nice to not have to rely on others for this?

That's why we're in NORAD. We help out Alaska keep people from coming over the North Pole, and the US gives us a hand intercepting rogue aircraft that may head towards us from inside their border.

 

[Brutus]

That's why we're in NORAD. We help out Alaska keep people from coming over the North Pole, and the US gives us a hand intercepting rogue aircraft that may head towards us from inside their border.

Point taken.

 

[SeanNewman]

I used to feel sorry for myself in terms of postings being in The RCR (Oromocto/Fredericton is my best hope, certainly better than Petawawa/Pembroke).

I missed the boat on London and Germany, and nothing that will bring me to Kingston or Edmonton.

Then I learned where fighter pilots have to choose from for postings and I feel incredibly fortunate.  You guys might get the hotels on travel when we get the tent, but my hat is really off to you for the QOL hit your families must take.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Is this actually a pretty good aircraft?

 

[PuckChaser]

Depends who you ask on here. Some are militantly against it, mostly because its behind schedule, others think its good we're finally getting top of the line aircraft.

 

[Jammer]

F-35=Unproven airframe
Single engine (nothing is 100% reliable)
65 planned to be ordered.
The attrition rate will adversely affect the inventory.
No economic spinoffs.

F-18E Super Hornet=
Proven airframe.
Two engines (better reliability)
More A/C for similar cost.
Economic spinoffs.
Better multi-role capabilty.

 

[belka]

F-35=Unproven airframe
Single engine (nothing is 100% reliable)
65 planned to be ordered.
The attrition rate will adversely affect the inventory.
No economic spinoffs.

F-18E Super Hornet=
Proven airframe.
Two engines (better reliability)
More A/C for similar cost.
Economic spinoffs.
Better multi-role capabilty.

:

F-18SH - Underpowered, overweight tin can that was rushed into production to replace the F-14. Very low international sales says it all.

F-35 - Better than the F-18SH in every way, technologically, economically and the best replacement for the future.

What are we discussing here again?

 

[PuckChaser]

F-35=Unproven airframe
No economic spinoffs.

F-18E Super Hornet=
Economic spinoffs.

Uh... what? The cash we've put into the R&D has allowed Canadian Aerospace companies to bid and win numerous contracts which have a dollar value far above what we've put into the program. You've basically just spouted information skewed to your personal view with little to no evidence to support.

 

[Zoomie]

I tend to think that having the new jets stationed on the West Coast, the East Coast, Southern Ontario  and in the North would make sense.

Open source information will show that we have Canadian NORAD assets deployed frequently to FOBs and Q's all over Canada.  Everywhere you have mentioned is covered at some point in time.

 

[aesop081]

I don't know...I tend to think that having the new jets stationed on the West Coast, the East Coast, Southern Ontario  and in the North would make sense.

Hughe threat in SO that needs to be met eh ?

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[SeanNewman]

Hugh threat in SO that needs to be met eh ?

I know it does seem pretty silly to put them there, well within range of Mexican extended-range artillery.

 

[gun runner]

LOL ,that is a good one... LONG RANGE MEXICAN ARTILLERY...what is that?