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Finally got a hold of the FOI request I made (had it sent to my friend in Canada vice me in the sandbox).  No opinion, just hard data, over the last 6 years (CFRG doesn't have any data for waivers granted prior to 2008) the recruitment of non-citizens has been less than 1% (avg is about .03 %)

link below for anyone interested.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwB6kEkHZm3gVWllRWlNTnVBS2c/
 
:Jedi:

What this place really needs is a smiley with a ruler and we can use it to find out who in this debate has the biggest ****.
 
Schindler's Lift said:
:Jedi:

What this place really needs is a smiley with a ruler and we can use it to find out who in this debate has the biggest ****.

::)

I guess providing actual factual data/information isn't beneficial for those people who may have an interest in attempting this route.  Letting them go off of opinion is a much better idea.
 
I've searched the forum and read a lot of threads before posting this one. I saw some info on google but I believe it was old (2009) so I hope there would be updates.


1. Are landed immigrants allowed to join or do they have to get permanent residency or citizenship first?

2. What documents are needed? (ex. Security clearances, medical docus, education etc)

3. Is there a minimum number of years required of living in Canada before applying?

Hoping there is someone kind enough to give any info.

By the way, I don't have access to be able to talk to a recruiter as I just sent my application to Québec under the Federal skilled worker immigrant visa. I'm still here in the Philippines working as a nurse.

I'm hoping to get a reply from the Quebec embassy within six months.

Thank you.
 
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100#who

To apply to the Forces, you must:

    Be a Canadian Citizen.
    Be 17 years of age, with parental consent, or older, except:
        Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applications must be 16 or older.
    Have completed at least Grade 10 or Secondaire IV (in Quebec).
        Certain entry programs and occupations require higher levels of education.
 
Ah, the info I saw must have been old. It said there were exceptions for foreigners with permanent residency. Thanks
 
You didn't search you were just being lazy as there is an exsisting thread IN THIS SUB-FORUM, called "Recruitment of Permanent Residents", and it does in fact have very recent information in it.  Read more, post less.

Locked.

HM

Staff
 
Hi all

First of all, I am new to the forums and would like to introduce myself and thank in advance for any help I would be getting.

I am not enlisted in the CA armed forces, but I am in the process of acquiring the permanent resident status in Canada (I am qualified). I come from central Europe and once in Canada, I believe it is only fair that I would do my share of thanking the country for accepting me as a future citizen, by enlisting. I therefore have a few questions at hand. I currently hold an American University bachelor degree, am 31 years old, and have a pilot background (airline and executive pilot). I am not interested in the Air Force (most likely I am too old anyway), but what interests me (since a child) is the Navy.

I understand that non-CA citizens that can legally live and work in Canada, are allowed to join but as non-officers, I hope I am correct here. I also read on the CA Armed forces website, that there is a fast track program for obtaining CA citizenship faster that way. My long term plan is a full career as a Navy Officer, preferably to have a leadership position in ships. As an ex-airline pilot I had a great time working in teams, I never had any problems and was always liked and respected by my fellow crew, and the captain in charge (I was always an FO/co-pilot). People kept telling me that I had what it takes to be a good leader and frankly, I never understood why, I was just being myself, fair with others and always see things from all perspectives.

What would you recommend I do? Enlist as a cadet, participate in the fast track (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/cit-armed-forces.asp) and is there a possibility after I acquired the CA citizenship, to be transferred for officer training? By that point I would be having my bachelor of science degree in Aeronautics from a US University, 5 years of Airline pilot experience and for sure a validated CA commercial pilot license (although my interests lay in the navy, hobby wise I will for sure still fly from time to time), and I assume I would be having experience as a non-Officer as well. I am also an Advanced Open Water diver but I dive only as a hobby.

Basically, would I be able to join the Canadian Navy as a non Officer, and then once having CA Citizenship, enter Officer school? Also, I saw there are many positions in the Navy to enter. Recommendations and suggestions are very welcome, remember, I would like in the future to be working on deck on leadership positions of ships, such as a ship captain. Once I enter without a CA Passport but with my resident permit, what path do you suggest I should take? I have had a long look at the official forces.gc.ca website and am a bit confused as to what route to take. At one point, the Navy Boarding Party interested me. I am by no means wanting to maybe join that unit because of thinking I am Rambo, but rather thought that specialty would give me experience operating in teams, help me enhance my leadership knowledge/critical thinking/working under stress etc, which would ultimately be very beneficial for a future post as an officer on a ship. Maybe this sounds not rational and makes no sense, I might be a bit naive to how things work in the armed forces due to my lack of experience in the military.

One of the only concerns I have is that I would be around 32-34 years of age upon enlisting. Would I be too old? As for medical condition, so far I am completely fit, no disabilities whatsoever, for now at least I am still winning the battle against age :)

Again, many thanks in advance. Although I am not Canadian yet, I appreciate your service that you do for your country and humanity.

Vara
 
The age isn't a concern if you are fit.  32-34 is not uncommmon.

Do not expect to be enrolled at all if you are not a citizen unless you bring some much needed skills from the Austrailian, British, New Zealand, or US military (YMMV with others but dont expect much).  The citizenship form you refer to is if you are already a member (or former member) of the CF, you have to manage to be enrolled as a permanent resident and that is not easy.
 
vara787 said:
I am not Canadian yet,

That makes things pretty simple.  You can't apply to the CF unless you are a Canadian Citizen.

There are exceptions made from time to time, but these are very rare and require extensive prior military service/training as mentioned above.
 
See also:

Recruting of Permanent residents
http://army.ca/forums/threads/13555.0
Four pages.

Canadian Citizenship Required to Join Canadian Forces?
https://army.ca/forums/threads/20943.0;nowap

How can a landed immigrant (PR card holder) join the forces or related...... 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/108227.0

Permanent resident - application process and PRESEC clearance
https://army.ca/forums/threads/111448.0/nowap.html

PR card and join to forces help 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/103884.0

CF May Recruit Landed Immigrants 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/49202.0/nowap.html

Fast track for Immigration by joining the CF 
http://army.ca/forums/threads/29782.0/nowap.html

vara787 said:
Would I be too old?

Am I too old to join/do well/fit in? (Merged thread)
http://army.ca/forums/threads/87496.0



 
thank you all, you answered all my questions!

I understand about the not being Canadian part, but the fast-track for Canadian citizenship through the armed forces caught my attention that there might indeed be a way but best is, PR then live 3 years, apply that can take worst case another year, and then join you all!

Cheers,
Vara
 
vara787 said:
I understand about the not being Canadian part, but the fast-track for Canadian citizenship through the armed forces caught my attention that there might indeed be a way.

Those are just a few of the frequent unofficial discussions of this topic. One day, they may be merged into a mega-thread.

As always, Recruiting is your best source of official information:
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100#who
 
thank you. Yes the reason I asked here because I sent out two emails already to recruiters, no answer yet and I just couldn't wait any longer to find out to be completely honest. Thread can be closed or deleted, apologies for any inconvenience, you guys helped a great deal!
 
vara787 said:
thank you. Yes the reason I asked here because I sent out two emails already to recruiters, no answer yet and I just couldn't wait any longer to find out to be completely honest. Thread can be closed or deleted, apologies for any inconvenience, you guys helped a great deal!

For official replies to Recruiting questions, you can ask here:
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/board,135.0.html
 
Before asking too many more questions, read through older threads on this Site and try out the snazzy Search Function. You'll most likely find answers to questions that have not even occurred to you yet, and will get a better idea of what your options are and what to expect.

You are not too old to apply as Pilot should you change your mind.
 
vara787 said:
thank you all, you answered all my questions!

I understand about the not being Canadian part, but the fast-track for Canadian citizenship through the armed forces caught my attention that there might indeed be a way but best is, PR then live 3 years, apply that can take worst case another year, and then join you all!

Cheers,
Vara

The fast tracking doesn't apply except in "special" circumstances.  So if you do not have prior "extensive" military service, then you are going to have to wait until you become a Canadian Citizen.  Not to mention, you will also require an undergrad degree.
 
Hello, everyone. I'am asked to provide Certificate of Naturalization upon to the arrival for BMQ because I was born outside of Canada.
Does anyone know what kind of document it is and how to get it? I'am living in Montreal QC.
Thanks a lot
 
That would be your citizenship certificate (i.e. government issued proof of citizenship). 
 
Thank you for the input.
But I already have the citizenship of Canada. Do I still need Certificate of Naturalization?
 
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