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Canadian Military can work in Europe and Asia at the same time

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When we say not enough equipment, are we talking about capital equipment such as LAV’s & trucks, ships & planes?
We need those, however in variants we don't currently hold: ATGM, AD, SP, and mortar variants come to mind.

Navy and Air Force wise, someone feel free to chime in, but it's more a case of we need replacement of our archaic platforms more than we need new capabilities.
Or are we talking about the non-sexy equipment that never gets talked about such as radios, diagnostic machines for platforms, etc

(Both equally limiting. One gets talked about a whole lot more than the other)
Talk to anyone in the RCCS and we will have been screaming into the void for 15 years that we need a new comms suite. And I'm not talking about CP TOPAZ.

TCCCS was outdated the moment we bought it, but we're told to "make it for for 20 years."

Additionally, comms isn't "sexy" for DLR. You can't sell a new radio package the way you can trucks, LAVs, and other things. Even when we try to piggy back on other projects... it often falls on deaf ears (see the MSVS' lack of comms suite for reference).

This will also come to a head when the Army talks digitization and AI/ML. The system of systems needs to interconnect and so far, we don't really see what that interconnection looks like.

The GBAD Radar needs to be interconnected with whatever AD platform we get, whichbineeds to interconnect with our other C5ISR capabilities in order to shoot that missile, UAV, aircraft out of the sky before human interaction is involved.

Like you're saying though, we don't do the secondary and tertiary systems allocation well at all.
 

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Navy and Air Force wise, someone feel free to chime in, but it's more a case of we need replacement of our archaic platforms more than we need new capabilities.
On a lot of the CPF items, FELEX only touched the combat side of things, so just maintaining the obsolete equipment is a challenge.

For context it's major items (motors, etc) as well as all the valves, piping, gauges etc etc distributed across all the systems onboard. We replaced the diesel generator sets, which is awesome, but there are still thousands of items hitting their end of life that aren't available anymore.

So it's not even adding new capabilities, it's just a lot of work to maintain the basic capabilities we need to go from A to B.
 

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This will also come to a head when the Army talks digitization and AI/ML. The system of systems needs to interconnect and so far, we don't really see what that interconnection looks like.

The GBAD Radar needs to be interconnected with whatever AD platform we get, whichbineeds to interconnect with our other C5ISR capabilities in order to shoot that missile, UAV, aircraft out of the sky before human interaction is involved.

Like you're saying though, we don't do the secondary and tertiary systems allocation well at all.
We've been working on that since 2000 or thereabouts. In 2002-3 DLR8s work on sensor interconnectivity made it possible to rapidly acquire Sperwer and ARTHUR on UORs.

You'd think we'd be there by now.

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We've been working on that since 2000 or thereabouts. In 2002-3 DLR8s work on sensor interconnectivity made it possible to rapidly acquire Sperwer and ARTHUR on UORs.

You'd think we'd be there by now.

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We have been innnovating the heck out of it for 20 years.

The KPIs there don't require actual results or capabilities, just that we look at bleeding edge stuff.

I want to throat punch people that keep going on about VR headsets as the next new thing, when we can't roll out tablets in a rubberized case for the same thing now they want to do at some point in the future.
 

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Can we possibly add "interconnects with X Project" as a KPI to future C5ISR projects?

All well andngood that your cell chose and is fielding the new GBAD RADAR platform; won't mean shit if it does directly and automatically link to the SAM battery that needs to take out that target....
 

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Can we possibly add "interconnects with X Project" as a KPI to future C5ISR projects?

All well andngood that your cell chose and is fielding the new GBAD RADAR platform; won't mean shit if it does directly and automatically link to the SAM battery that needs to take out that target....
We had netted radars/SAMs with ADATS.

We got rid of it….
 

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We have been innnovating the heck out of it for 20 years.

The KPIs there don't require actual results or capabilities, just that we look at bleeding edge stuff.

I want to throat punch people that keep going on about VR headsets as the next new thing, when we can't roll out tablets in a rubberized case for the same thing now they want to do at some point in the future.

Sometimes we disagree to a polar opposite level.

And sometimes we hoe the same row.

There is no acronym I hate more than KPI.
 

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Sometimes we disagree to a polar opposite level.

And sometimes we hoe the same row.

There is no acronym I hate more than KPI.
As a chemistry nerd though, molecular polarity is critical for basic life. Not really sure that is a good analogy for people, but always get nervous when everyone is in full agreement with no questions, and enjoy the variety of viewpoints here.

But yeah, KPIs can really be life sucking. One of those things that is really difficult to do well, but is really useful when done properly. On the flip side, really easy to do something not useful, overly simple or actively misleading, which tends to be what we do.
 

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Sometimes we disagree to a polar opposite level.

And sometimes we hoe the same row.

There is no acronym I hate more than KPI.

Meanwhile, consultants be like....

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