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ok well, yes i did search, but all results were too old. from what ive heard here on base theyve changed the length of the course in shearwater and rumour is borden isnt doing it anymore. was hoping someone could confirm.

airmich said:
As well, here is some great reading material typically provided by the site's mods after an initial post such as yours:

::) :boring:
 
ptesmoke said:
ok well, yes i did search, but all results were too old. from what ive heard here on base theyve changed the length of the course in shearwater and rumour is borden isnt doing it anymore. was hoping someone could confirm.

::) :boring:

ptesmoke:

You may think airmich was being silly  ::) and boring you  :boring: , but I STRONGLY suggest you take the hint.

I won't bother re-posting the suggested reading scenario - airmich has already done more than enough to point you in the right direction.

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I think I can help with some of this.

The AVN course is currently 13 months including common core (a common knowledge course that all of the 500-series trades have to take.)  They are trying to further reduce it.  All of the course going through now, are anywhere between 12 and 18 months.  I am on one of the first 13 month courses, we're a pilot course, so there's a lot of experimenting with us. 

The class sizes are now 20 students.  It was hard enough having enough practical training aids for 16 students, 20 is making sure that you spend a lot of time sitting on your rear in a canteen.  There are worse things though, like spending 18 months on course.

We have a dress inspection every tuesday morning, and a room inspection every friday.  The room inspections can be pretty similar to the ones you have in St Jean.  If you're lucky, you end up in a 2-person room.  If you're not, 4 people in the same sized room.  Sometime in your course, if there's room, you may be moved to a mod.  These are 2-person rooms, but you're also sharing 1 washer and 1 dryer with 20 people. 

There are currently 260 AVN's in training right now in Borden.  It makes for a looooong tuesday morning inspection when only 1 Sgt shows up!

At the start of the course, it is 90% classwork... as you get more and more into training, it becomes close to 50/50.  The passing mark for the exams is 70%.  You will have time to study, but being on course is no excuse for not being up to par for inspection.  There are tons of us who find time to study, clean, and go to the H-Club on thursday nights, hehe.  Your time is your own after class, but you are expected to meet the standard.  If you fail tests, you may be recoursed after 1, or you may get more chances... Depends on how much effort you're putting in and how the staff sees you as a student.  Better not to fail, I've seen too many recourses here.  We've got one guy in our class who has been here over 2 years now, and on 4 different courses.

I'm less than 3 months away from graduating my avn course here.  Feel free to ask anything you might want to know, and I'll see if I can get your questions answered.
 
Hey there

if your course is a pilot one, would that mean that all other classes are the 18 month version, and therefore still recognized by Transport-Canada?

Thanks for the help!
 
pfl said:
Hey there

if your course is a pilot one, would that mean that all other classes are the 18 month version, and therefore still recognized by Transport-Canada?

Thanks for the help!

Nope, any courses now are all the shortened ones.  Ours was an in-between, and it was the second last one that Transport Canada recognized.  Any course since Feb 2008 is now the shorter one, and no longer a college equivalent.  Besides, it's not exactly an honorable thing to be using the CF just to get yourself a college education and then skipping out to use it civvie side as soon as you can.  Why don't you just pay for the college yourself if you want to do it as a civilian? 
 
Sparkplugs said:
Besides, it's not exactly an honorable thing to be using the CF just to get yourself a college education and then skipping out to use it civvie side as soon as you can.  Why don't you just pay for the college yourself if you want to do it as a civilian? 

Why not? Once your first contract is up, you don't have to sign anything after.
 
NINJA said:
Why not? Once your first contract is up, you don't have to sign anything after.

No, you don't have to, but what's the point of getting an education, using it for 5 years, and then quitting the forces, and having to do the course all over again civvie side?
 
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