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  1. RedMan

    Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

    So glad this crap is finally sorted out for you guys! Hmmm, does this mean that those of us (being a 2.1 qualified CST CPL) who OT'd to another trade also get our back pay during this time period (up to when we OT'd) ?
  2. RedMan

    Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

    Glad it finally got sorted out for those who were QL5 LCIS! About damn time! Co-worker (who falls under this) just told me about this. I assume this does NOT apply to any who were LCIS, had POET, but got sucked into CST before they were able to do QL5 LCIS by Oct 1 2011 (they had to do ACISS...
  3. RedMan

    ATIS Training

    Put it to you guys this way..... I was a 5's qualified LCIS / CST (and a civy tech for 15 years prior) who OT'd to ATIS.  I don't have to do POET, but they make us do the QL3's now. (before we didn't) It's taken 1.5 years since I OT'd to have to wait for my QL3 course. Why I didn't get put on a...
  4. RedMan

    Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

    I would hope that there would be absolute clarity regarding: Who will be getting Spec Pay? -only legacy LCIS who were already getting spec pay (QL5,CPL and higher)  ? -legacy LCIS who were QL5, but not yet CPL before the freeze? -legacy LCIS who had POET, QL3, but had to do CST 2.1 Mod 2 (QL5...
  5. RedMan

    Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

    Spec Pay was not a problem (for LCIS) until ACISS happened and those promises (of all ACISS possibly getting it) came from the mouths of MES during those many briefings. This poisoned an already toxic environment among the branch. It wasn't complex before. "This trade requires this training, and...
  6. RedMan

    Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

    It's been a while since I jumped from LCIS / CST to ATIS, and I'm sad to see that things have not gotten better. When I first meet people outside of Sigs, and  they ask what my old trade was, I tell them LCIS...and right away they instantly say, "Man, they really screwed you guys over!" From...
  7. RedMan

    Performance Oriented Electronic Training (POET)

    Well there are courses running, and I was almost loaded on one even though I already have POET, (former LCIS/ACISS CST) for October. Check the CFSCE course calendar to see what POET courses are coming up. I OT'd to ATIS and was supposed to go right into my ql3, but that got messed up because...
  8. RedMan

    Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

    There are places and positions where ACISS CST guys do full-time IS work. I know some in Ottawa, Halifax, CFSCE and even in Petawawa... That said, a lot of what you said is true, though I think it heavily depends on the unit you are talking about. I was one of the CST guys who did give a f***...
  9. RedMan

    Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

    This used to be the case with LCIS before ACISS. I haven't met an IST that actually does this, though that doesn't mean there aren't other IST out there who have. ACISS CST is still trained in Data Comms just like LCIS used to be, and I know a few that do this kind of work. The problem is...
  10. RedMan

    Army Communication & Information Systems Specialists (Sig Op, Lineman and LCIS Amalgamation)

    Sound advice. I joined as LCIS, though I literally asked the recruiters of the time about ACISS, and they told me it was BS.  After BMQ, I arrived at Kingston only to be told I was no longer LCIS, I was ACISS. Had I would have been given sound, accurate information on ACISS before joining, I...
  11. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    I didn't get my VOT instructions until at least 2 weeks later. My BTL (where my offer said I was posted to) had my VOT instructions before my OR received them. Cold Lake.... I can understand why you want that confirmation! The cost of living must be crazy there now...
  12. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    If you aren't being given an OT offer, you "should" receive a message indicating so. Who knows when the deadline for that actually is...  One of my clerks said they were receiving OT offers as late as August last year. It wouldn't hurt to goto your BPSO and politely ask what that status is. I...
  13. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    I can't get a DEU fitting until the 28th of July... with my effective date of July 15th....  :(  Guess I can't do any DEU parades anytime soon. ACISS is going through changes as it evolves again and again....  if you are of the Electronics Tech type mindset and want to do that type of work...
  14. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    So who do I goto to get that resolved? Mine still says Army in Logistik, so I can't order any Air Force stuff at all...We have only one Tailor here and they are so busy that I can't even make an appointment until mid July. (I tried to do that weeks ago to avoid this...no go) There is no way for...
  15. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    Yah, I knew an EO Tech who was getting CPL spec pay and then OT'd to LCIS (which became ACISS). He only received CPL pay when he OT'd. Even now as a fully qualified ACISS CST (LCIS) MCpl he still is not getting Spec Pay (yes ACISS CST still does not get spec pay). There will be no Spec Pay until...
  16. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    I just got VOT instructions today. Message was mostly the same as the offer. I fall under base BTL,etc...  Still in effect for July 15th. Check with your OR guys....they might have something for you! Good luck to all!
  17. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    I can relate to this.... when I first joined I was away from my wife and kids for almost 1.5 years by the time I was done my 3 month DP1 (which should have been a QL3, but that's another story). An EWAT back home would have been much better while waiting so long.... and yes you do tend to feel...
  18. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    I was talking about the docs that my OR would transfer anyway, but the BTL clerk told me I could bring in copies of my leave pass and copies of things like NOK forms and info,etc... They called it the Fab 5... This was so that when I went on leave and still had not received my instructions (and...
  19. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    Hell, I had my Army kit washed and ready to turn in, got 98% signed out of my unit and have copies of everything my BTL clerk would need. I asked supply if I could at least get name tags done ahead of time.... no go. If I don't hear anything by next Friday, its going to be a looong summer...
  20. RedMan

    Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )

    Haven't received mine yet... and others at my unit haven't either. Anyone OT'ing to ATIS get theirs yet?
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