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    Obligatory Service in the CAF

    If Ottawa REALLY hates you, you may have to pay the $400k. I'm just saying that buddy here shouldn't be scared to go see what it is based on what other people are telling him because he might not have to pay it back. And most people don't end up paying back their full salary or even a large...
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    Obligatory Service in the CAF

    Okay, I apologize for misinformation/confusion. Maybe I should have explained myself better; I should have said "you MAY NOT have to pay back your salary". Sorry. What I stated in my prior post is based onanecdotal evidence of RMC cadets who have released 1 year or sooner after graduation...
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    Obligatory Service in the CAF

    For OP: buddy can just put in a release, obtain an answer from Ottawa and refuse the sign the documents if the cost is too high. If you don't sign the papers, they cannot release you for a 4C release. It's as simple as that. He can also ask to have his release date extended from the date...
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    Obligatory Service in the CAF

    Correct, part of you VIE is obligatory service but the reverse is NOT true. ROTP candidates usually end up with a  13 year VIE, 4 years is spent in school, 5 is paying back for the school (obligatory service), and the last 4 is just your VIE. If you finished the first 9 years, you do NOT owe...
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    Obligatory Service in the CAF

    Right back at you, mister. Just because I'm a forum noob, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about when I post or don't have anything meaningful to contribute. Oligatory service is time you MUST pay back before you can release (or face financial penalty). Variable Initial Engagement is...
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    Obligatory Service in the CAF

    How can you have 10 years in and STILL HAVE oblig service?! The max amount anyone can incur is 5 years for a period of subsidize education, unless he went on to do a Masters/PhD (if you take 1.5-2 years, that adds 3-4), that would put him over the 10 years required to do school and pay it off...
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    ROTP/MOTP Posting Messages

    What kind of posting messages do RO/MOTP candidates usually receive? I realize that most of them enrol in the same city in which they will be attending school so what type of message they get really doesn't have any implications. Know I know that if you enrol anywhere and end up at RMC, you...
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    Application Process Samples [2003 - 2018]

    Recruiting Centre: CFRC Toronto Regular/Reserve: Reg Force Officer/NCM: Officer Trade Choice 1: Medical Officer (MOTP) Trade Choice 2: X Trade Choice 3: X Application Date: Jan 20, 2012 First Contact: Jan 23, 2012 - waiver required from North Bay Second Contact: Feb 24, 2012 - waiver accepted...
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    Am I Cut Out for RMC?

    In that case you would have to go as interest only, a reservist or RETP, which are different selection processes from ROTP anyway. You wouldn't be competing in the same pool. If you want to do a second entry program through the CF, it's best to leave RMC out of the picture unless you want to...
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    physical fitness after training...

    There were a few guys on sister platoons and my platoon that lost a substantial amount of body weight, in the realm of 40lb+ on basic. A few of them kept it off, others gained it back on. It depends on whether you are diligent (i.e. don't hurt yourself and end up on a TCAT for 6 months) and are...
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    waiting time

    It depends on our recruiting centre also. Be patient, I guess. Timings for anything during the recruiting process is pretty much unpredictable.
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    Advice for women on BMQ and other courses [MERGED]

    Why wear mascara? Do you want to sweat it off and have it dripping all over? Save yourself the potential for getting jacked up and leave it in your purse. Don't worry about undergarments. Just wear what you have. The boxers are actually preferable to prevent chaffing during long ruck marches...
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    Military Swim Test - When, Where, and How- Merged

    You continue on the course like everyone else. It's on the CF expres that you HAVE to pass.
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    Advice for women on BMQ and other courses [MERGED]

    PT - isn't so "hollywood" crazy. Most PSP staff are considerate enough to offer alternate, scaled exercises for people that are hurt or just not as strong at some exercises (break up pushups into sets of 10, do them on knees, etc.). Group PT with your unit may also get split into two groups...
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    Military Swim Test - When, Where, and How- Merged

    Yep. During swimming PT classes, all the bad swimmers/floaters/treaders are rounded up with another PSP staff to practice what they sucked at on the swim test. You can get a second and maybe even 3rd shot!
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    Verification of Former Service (VFS) [Merged]

    That's exactly the problem. They can write horrible references or give you horrible PERs for the next session. Some people just never liked the trade they go to begin with, or didn't like it after they got on phase training, or don't like the lifestyle of certain trades after they get...
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    Verification of Former Service (VFS) [Merged]

    We don't have all of those options you listed above - there is only one type of VOT. Further, career managers often give you a hard time if your trade is yellow or just came out of being yellow.  There are also some training plans that you can try for such as med/dent/chaplain/pharm/physio which...
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    Verification of Former Service (VFS) [Merged]

    I'm really not sure what you mean by "gaming the system" ... There isn't as great of a system in place for an officer to change trades as there are for people in the ranks. The recruiter for the trade I want actually TOLD me, that this was what I had to do. There was simply no other way. This...
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    Verification of Former Service (VFS) [Merged]

    I released under 4C as well.... but due to being an officer, no waiting required. They know that voluntary trade transfers are not easy to get and are pretty much expecting us to get out and come back in off the street for the trade we tried to VOR to.  On the release SOU, article 11 there was...
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    Supp Reserve to Reg Force and impact on recruiting process

    How do you mean? I know that recruiting is down and many trades are now closed because attrition rate wasn't as high as they were back in 2008/09. Correct me if I'm wrong but I was under the impression that it was preferential to re-enroll a former member (provided they are in good standing)...
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