Brazil air crash 09 August 2024

[dapaterson]

ATR 72 with four crew and 58 pax crashed near Sao Paulo. No survivors. Aircraft entered a flat spin.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1821963403877085686

 

[Good2Golf]

Very unusual to see an aircraft enter into a flat spin like that during the enroute to arrival portion of a flight. The third picture in particular indicates some crazy aircraft motion just prior to the crash (grey line is the projected path direct to SP Aprt).

 

[brihard]

That’s absolutely awful. I can only imagine the last minute of terror they would have all felt… There would have been no mistaking that.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Watching the video, the only thing I can think of is that the aircraft was badly out of CG (too much cargo aft?); it stalled somehow and there was no getting the nose down…

 

[SupersonicMax]

Watching the video, the only thing I can think of is that the aircraft was badly out of CG (too much cargo aft?); it stalled somehow and there was no getting the nose down…

T-Tails are notorious for stalling when they get iced up. When they stall, the aircraft is almost always irrecoverable. In general, stalling a T-Tail aircraft results in a proverbial “deep stall,” where the stabilator is blocked from receiving airflow from the fuselage and the only way to recover is to change the aerodynamic configuration of the aircraft (flaps/speed brake) to help a nose over, or use inertial forces to recover (by “rocking” the aircraft out of the stall, although you need fairly heavy control surfaces and/or large control surfaces movements to be effective)

 

[OldSolduer]

That is horrific. Fackkkkk