July 2024: Two GTA men arrested, charged with terrorism linked to ISIS

[The Bread Guy]

Usual reminder: According to Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms, "Any person charged with an offence has the right .... to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal."

From the RCMP info-machine

Father and son arrested for terrorism offences | Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Various MSM versions (based on a news conference)

Father and son facing terror charges were planning 'serious violent attack in Toronto': RCMP

RCMP say a father and son who were arrested in Richmond Hill on terrorism charges last week were 'in the advanced stages of planning a serious violent attack in Toronto.'

www.cp24.com

Father, son were 'in advanced stages of planning a serious, violent attack in Toronto': RCMP

The RCMP say a father and son in the Greater Toronto Area are accused of conspiring to commit murder for the Islamic State.

torontosun.com

Father and son were in ‘advanced stages’ of planning Toronto terror attack linked to ISIS, RCMP say

Documents obtained by the Star show Ahmed Fouad Mostafa Eldidi, 62, and Mostafa Eldidi, 26, were charged on Monday with allegedly participating in terrorism activities in July in Toronto and York Region.

www.thestar.com

 

[Kilted]

ISIS, we haven't heard their name in Canada in awhile.

 

[brihard]

Damn, sounds like a good stop. BZ to the investigators. Lots of agencies named in that one.

 

[GK .Dundas]

I subscribe to Mercedes Stephenson's X feed and according to her this is the most transparent Press briefing she's ever seen given by the RCMP on terrorism related matters.
Apparently that's to curtail any disinformation .

 

[brihard]

I subscribe to Mercedes Stephenson's X feed and according to her this is the most transparent Press briefing she's ever seen given by the RCMP on terrorism related matters.
Apparently that's to curtail any disinformation .

I’ve followed her for years and she has unusually good sources. She doesn’t get everything right, but she’s not often off by much.

 

[brihard]

Bloody hell. Speaking of Mercedes, she’s painted quite a picture in this thread. No idea if it’s accurate, but she’s a good reporter.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1818779643832320352

 

[MilEME09]

Toronto terror suspects recorded video with weapons, ISIS flag | Globalnews.ca

The video of Ahmed Fouad Mostafa Eldidi, 62, and Mostafa Eldidi, 26, showed them holding an axe and machete, according to three sources.

globalnews.ca

The father was allegedly is a ISIS video in 2015? Dismembering a prisoner

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Toronto terror suspects recorded video with weapons, ISIS flag | Globalnews.ca

The video of Ahmed Fouad Mostafa Eldidi, 62, and Mostafa Eldidi, 26, showed them holding an axe and machete, according to three sources.

globalnews.ca

The father was allegedly is a ISIS video in 2015? Dismembering a prisoner

Nice fellow.

Who let him into Canada?

 

[QV]

Nice fellow.

Who let him into Canada?

And how many more like him are here?

 

[The Bread Guy]

Toronto terror suspects recorded video with weapons, ISIS flag | Globalnews.ca

The video of Ahmed Fouad Mostafa Eldidi, 62, and Mostafa Eldidi, 26, showed them holding an axe and machete, according to three sources.

globalnews.ca

The father was allegedly is a ISIS video in 2015? Dismembering a prisoner

Like this stats breakdown from this piece ...

 

[The Bread Guy]

Son's back in court August 7 ....

Toronto man accused of terrorist activities in the GTA makes court appearance

One of two Toronto men accused of planning a 'serious violent attack' in the city for ISIS appeared in court Thursday.

www.cp24.com

... with this clarifying tidbit in the CTV-generated piece about the father & an alleged starring role in a 2015 ISIS snuff video

 

[The Bread Guy]

Nice fellow.

Who let him into Canada?

You're not the only one asking ...

Conservatives demand government explain how terror suspects immigrated to Canada

OTTAWA - Conservative House leader Andrew Scheer says Canadians have a right to know how a man with links to a foreign terror group evaded Canada's screening process to immigrate

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

 

[Czech_pivo]

Like this stats breakdown from this piece ...
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Of the 20 convicted to date, any info on how many of them are CDN citizens vs non-CDN citizens? Hoping that all of the non-CDN citizens are simply deported after serving out their time in prison.

 

[brihard]

You're not the only one asking ...

Conservatives demand government explain how terror suspects immigrated to Canada

OTTAWA - Conservative House leader Andrew Scheer says Canadians have a right to know how a man with links to a foreign terror group evaded Canada's screening process to immigrate

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

To me the obvious answer would simply be that he wasn’t iddentified in the video at the time he immigrated to Canada. I’ve had to watch quite a few ISIS videos, and they don’t exactly list legally accurate tombstone data at the bottom of the screen. The Americans, for instance, were eventually able to link Mohammed Khalifa (US/Can dual cit) to the videos Flames of War 1 and 2, but it wasn’t an easy or immediate thing, and he had already been living here before he went over. Sounds like the accused being referred to here can new to Canada after that video. While he may have been previously identified by some nom de guerre, that doesn’t mean IRCC had specific identifying selectors to flag him with when he immigrated.

Possible I’m wrong? Sure. But I have a decent basis of experience in investigations that touched on immigration status in the course of doing our digging, and if this had been known or even reasonably suspect, he would not have been let in or granted status.

 

[brihard]

Of the 20 convicted to date, any info on how many of them are CDN citizens vs non-CDN citizens? Hoping that all of the non-CDN citizens are simply deported after serving out their time in prison.

Anecdotally I believe a significant majority have been citizens. I don’t know offhand of any who aren’t, but I don’t have a list to work off of.

Unfortunately, I doubt we would deport to Syria or Iraq.

If someone were to have immigrated and naturalized, and was later found to have lied in their immigration process about participation in terrorism, war crimes, or crimes against humanity, IRCC could revoke their citizenship and legal status as fraudulently obtained. It’s a very lengthy process though, and would only apply if they misrepresented themselves in the process.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Anecdotally I believe a significant majority have been citizens. I don’t know offhand of any who aren’t, but I don’t have a list to work off of.

Unfortunately, I doubt we would deport to Syria or Iraq.

If someone were to have immigrated and naturalized, and was later found to have lied in their immigration process about participation in terrorism, war crimes, or crimes against humanity, IRCC could revoke their citizenship and legal status as fraudulently obtained. It’s a very lengthy process though, and would only apply if they misrepresented themselves in the process.

Well, if convicted of terrorism charges the son could very well be deported - According to a Global News report, Mostafa Eldidi is not a citizen, but his father is, despite being charged with committing an aggravated assault for ISIS outside of Canada in 2015. That charge stemmed from an ISIS video, which showed a man dismembering a prisoner with a sword.

Tasha Kheiriddin: Liberal immigration policy risks turning Canada into terrorist haven

We have a responsibility to welcome the persecuted, not the persecutors

nationalpost.com

 

[brihard]

I won't speculate, but taking those accounts at face value, if proven I could foresee potential immigration/citizenship status consequences for them, separate from any criminal penalty.

 

[FSTO]

These guys. I don’t care where they go, just get them the hell out of Canada.

The immigration interview of questionable applicants should be done by a woman wearing a tank top and lulu lemon shorts and the applicants reaction will surely indicate their suitability of becoming a citizen of Canada.

 

[RangerRay]

These guys. I don’t care where they go, just get them the hell out of Canada.

The immigration interview of questionable applicants should be done by a woman wearing a tank top and lulu lemon shorts and the applicants reaction will surely indicate their suitability of becoming a citizen of Canada.

Or an exceptionally flamboyant out-of-the-closet-and-proud gay man.

 

[OldSolduer]

Of the 20 convicted to date, any info on how many of them are CDN citizens vs non-CDN citizens? Hoping that all of the non-CDN citizens are simply deported after serving out their time in prison.

FYI Deportation is a thing not only for cases like this, but lesser crimes. We have deported at least two to Somalia.....one to Australia and a few others I cannot recall the details on. And this is from a small jail in Manitoba.