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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #625 on: June 15, 2017, 21:15:30 »
I successfully completed ACS (Pt 1) around the middle of March - did the initial medical & interview at the end of May so my results are with Ottawa right now awaiting approval to move on to Aircrew Medical (ACS Pt 2). I talked to a file manager earlier this week and they indicated that it might be 8-10 weeks before they receive my medical file back from Ottawa. They also indicated there might be further delays as Ottawa staff are in the process of moving to a new office (it's detailed in the news if you want more info). 

I would follow up with your file manager at your CFRC to see if they received approval yet or for a status update. My experience has been that File Managers are very helpful - and will give you a straight up answer with realistic timelines.


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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #626 on: June 27, 2017, 15:18:19 »
I have a quick question regarding Aircrew Selection. I'm heading to Trenton from Western Canada for the July 10th-11th course. I have seen people referring to ASC Phase I (testing) and Phase II (medical evaluation) as being separate and thus requiring two trips. I was under the impression that those who pass the ASC testing go directly to the DRDC for a final day of anthropometrics, etc. Could someone who has been clear this up for me? My apologies if this has been covered before, I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.  :salute:

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #627 on: June 27, 2017, 15:57:45 »
I have a quick question regarding Aircrew Selection. I'm heading to Trenton from Western Canada for the July 10th-11th course. I have seen people referring to ASC Phase I (testing) and Phase II (medical evaluation) as being separate and thus requiring two trips. I was under the impression that those who pass the ASC testing go directly to the DRDC for a final day of anthropometrics, etc. Could someone who has been clear this up for me? My apologies if this has been covered before, I searched and didn't find anything.

Thanks.  :salute:

From my experience, they are two separate trips. My file manager will contacted me to book my Phase II a few weeks after passing Phase I.

Cheers,

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #628 on: June 28, 2017, 00:21:08 »
From experience, you'll have the opportunity to be measured (anthropometric) in Trenton (for PLT as I understand). After Trenton, if you are successful, they will book you in for interview and medical. At the CFRC in my region they are not able to assign you an air factor so I had to book my own medical part 2 to be sent to Ottawa.

This information is just for reference to give you an idea. Your best bet would be to contact your CFRC for how your application will move along.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #629 on: July 03, 2017, 09:23:27 »
. After Trenton, if you are successful, they will book you in for interview and medical. At the CFRC in my region they are not able to assign you an air factor so I had to book my own medical part 2 to be sent to Ottawa.



What do you mean you had to book your own medical? I was under the impression that as your file progresses  along, your file manager/ CFRC will give you dates for ACS pt 2 medical and you pick a date. The results are then forwarded to Ottawa from Toronto and an air factor is assigned.
Note: Waiting to be booked for ACSpt2 so clarification would be appreciated.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #630 on: July 03, 2017, 19:10:12 »
What do you mean you had to book your own medical? I was under the impression that as your file progresses  along, your file manager/ CFRC will give you dates for ACS pt 2 medical and you pick a date. The results are then forwarded to Ottawa from Toronto and an air factor is assigned.
Note: Waiting to be booked for ACSpt2 so clarification would be appreciated.
Your file manager will give you dates to choose and you choose a date you can attend, then they will book you a flight to Toronto for medical (ACS Pt 2).
I'm going to Toronto next week for ACS pt 2.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #631 on: July 03, 2017, 23:23:04 »
I am just relaying my experience. I had my interview and medical at my nearest CFRC. I never got booked a flight to Toronto and had to talk to my family doctor and find my own eye doctor. I had them fill out separate forms, which I forwarded to the med tech who did my medical.

Good luck on your appointments!

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #632 on: July 04, 2017, 06:46:28 »
I had my interview and medical at my nearest CFRC. I never got booked a flight to Toronto and had to talk to my family doctor and find my own eye doctor. I had them fill out separate forms, which I forwarded to the med tech who did my medical.


Hey Jollibee, I think you are talking about the 'regular' medical that is part of the application process for all prospective CF members. I believe the ACS medical is for pilot applicants that are successful at ACS and want to pursue a pilot application. Are you applying for pilot btw?

Your file manager will give you dates to choose and you choose a date you can attend, then they will book you a flight to Toronto for medical (ACS Pt 2).
I'm going to Toronto next week for ACS pt 2.

Sounds great Andy and good luck. When did you complete your assessment in Trenton?

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #633 on: July 04, 2017, 10:15:50 »
AEC. This thread is difficult to keep track of - combining PLT, AEC, and ACSO. But yes, I did book my own doctors to do my medical screening and visual acuity for my AEC application.

Good luck!

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #634 on: July 04, 2017, 10:55:24 »
Sounds great Andy and good luck. When did you complete your assessment in Trenton?
Thanks! I completed my ACS in Trenton in early February, then I completed my interview and medical mid May! :)

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #635 on: July 06, 2017, 11:22:22 »
AEC. This thread is difficult to keep track of - combining PLT, AEC, and ACSO. But yes, I did book my own doctors to do my medical screening and visual acuity for my AEC application.

Good luck!

AF 1 is only for Pilots, you wouldn't have had to go through the Toronto medical.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #636 on: July 08, 2017, 18:25:24 »
When attending ACS2, is business-casual dress wear with a change of gym wear the expected dress standard?

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #637 on: July 08, 2017, 18:49:43 »
AF 1 is only for Pilots, you wouldn't have had to go through the Toronto medical.

Yup;  ACSO is AF2, AEC is AF4.  For future ref/follow-on readers...Para 10 of the ref below.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-policies-standards-medical-occupations/cf-medical-category-system.page



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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #638 on: July 18, 2017, 19:17:38 »
When attending ACS2, is business-casual dress wear with a change of gym wear the expected dress standard?

Yes. Change of gym wear is probably unnecessary, but a good idea.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #639 on: August 20, 2017, 17:41:05 »
Hi!

I'm heading to Trenton on September 24th! Anyone else?

I passed the CAPSS back in January 2012 while I was applying for a ROTP position. I need to redo the test because it expires after five years.

I've somewhat already did the new computerized test because even if I've done the old test, we also did the new one(probably to compare both results). I do not know if I did good at it.

I'm a DEO applicant, I will graduate with a degree in Computer Science in December!

Nick

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #640 on: September 13, 2017, 13:54:40 »
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but why are people supposedly waiting months before Aircrew Medical pt II? I had my BPSO interview done in Nov 16, Aircrew Pt I in December, ACS in Trenton Jan 31st and was sent to Aircrew Pt II immediately after that, spent the night in a hotel in Toronto and Aircrew Pt II the next more at DRDC. Was supposed to get an offer in July, ended up getting an offer in August and a COS date for 19 Sep.

It can take a while to get an offer, but my situation was compounded by the fact that the person doing it went on summer block leave as well.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #641 on: September 27, 2017, 13:03:49 »
Hi!

Good news! I passed all three occupations. Last time, I failed for AEC. I think that the new test was way more challenging than the old CAPSS except for the last part of the CAPSS.

If you have any questions not related to the test itself (because we can't talk about it) but more related to the accomodations, etc, don't hesitate to PM me. By the way, I'm French so you can ask your question in French no problem ;)

To anybody else that will do the aircrew selection, be prepared mentally and well rested. Give all you got. It's a really good experience overall and you will meet some great people!

Nick

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #642 on: September 27, 2017, 15:09:23 »
Congratulations on passing ACS for all three occupations nic! Just curious if you know how many people were on your course and the amount that passed. Curious to see if the pass rate of about 30 percent is consistent. Also, were you briefed on your test competitiveness across the three occupations?

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #643 on: September 27, 2017, 22:06:01 »
Congratulations on passing ACS for all three occupations nic! Just curious if you know how many people were on your course and the amount that passed. Curious to see if the pass rate of about 30 percent is consistent. Also, were you briefed on your test competitiveness across the three occupations?

Hi!

6-7 (I'm not sure about a guy but other said that he didn't make it) out of 18 for pilot! Some got their choice for ASCO or AEC, some got none.
In that 6-7, one was applying for RMC and the five others are DEO.

She said to me that I got a good grade, I had three section where my mark were really good. I did not ask for more because there is so much things that make you competitive or not. CFAT, interview (I include all your resume in that, grades, etc.). I'm not sure if you score at aircrew selection is considered but I would say yes. More, it depends on who is on the merit list with you :)

I'm now waiting for Pt II, and now I focus on passing my last 2 courses that I have this semester to get my degree!

Nick


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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #644 on: September 29, 2017, 06:47:31 »
Hi!

I'm heading to Trenton on September 24th! Anyone else?

I passed the CAPSS back in January 2012 while I was applying for a ROTP position. I need to redo the test because it expires after five years.

I've somewhat already did the new computerized test because even if I've done the old test, we also did the new one(probably to compare both results). I do not know if I did good at it.

I'm a DEO applicant, I will graduate with a degree in Computer Science in December!

Nick

Just to correct myself, the computerized test that I did back then was only a part of the new one. Like other said, it was for AEC and a couple of part for pilot.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #645 on: October 03, 2017, 03:58:50 »
I have recently been sent dates to do the ACS at Trenton, but am a bit lost as to why.

I had applied to intelligence and pilot and due to the low number of slots available for intelligence was denied i,. I was however cleared for pilot. The catch is I never did the initial medical or interview for either position. When I went into the centre, I was told that I was going to be skipping those stages and heading into ACS. The reason being that should I fail ACS I wouldn't need a medical, and should I pass then I would have to do one anyway. I'm a bit confused though as I have skipped the interview, and as far as I know if I pass ACS and the Air factor medical, I am merit listed. I was told I scored very high on the CFAT but I can't imagine it would allow me to skip the interview. 

TLDR; I'm curious to know if i will have to do an interview if I pass ACS and the Air factor medical, or if I have somehow skipped over it.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #646 on: October 03, 2017, 08:19:03 »
I have recently been sent dates to do the ACS at Trenton, but am a bit lost as to why.

I had applied to intelligence and pilot and due to the low number of slots available for intelligence was denied i,. I was however cleared for pilot. The catch is I never did the initial medical or interview for either position. When I went into the centre, I was told that I was going to be skipping those stages and heading into ACS. The reason being that should I fail ACS I wouldn't need a medical, and should I pass then I would have to do one anyway. I'm a bit confused though as I have skipped the interview, and as far as I know if I pass ACS and the Air factor medical, I am merit listed. I was told I scored very high on the CFAT but I can't imagine it would allow me to skip the interview. 

TLDR; I'm curious to know if i will have to do an interview if I pass ACS and the Air factor medical, or if I have somehow skipped over it.

     If successful at ACS, you will still have to undergo all the other steps, including standard medical, interview and pilot medical. Also, if successful at ACS for pilot, you will be subsequently measured ( height, seated height and some other body measurements) and weighed to determine your ability to 'fit' in different airframes. I completed ACS and had my interview and medicals afterwards. In addition, my security and credited checks were completed prior to my interview. My interview was sandwiched, time wise, between ACS tests in Trenton and the ACS Pilot Medical in Toronto. Once all required steps are completed, in whatever order that may be, is your completed application sent to CFRG for selection purposes and your file manger will inform you ( had to ask in my case) that you are on the competition/ merit list. Hope this clears things up a bit. Good luck.

By the way, do you have any insight as to why so little intelligence officer slots are open to prospective forces members. While not having applied to INT Officer myself, it seems to be a reoccurring theme for quite some time now.
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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #647 on: October 03, 2017, 08:43:58 »
   By the way, do you have any insight as to why so little intelligence officer slots are open to prospective forces members. While not having applied to INT Officer myself, it seems to be a reoccurring theme for quite some time now.

I am not at work and can't check the intake numbers from "off the street" vice "internal from occupation/classification transfers" but not long ago, the Int Op trade was preferring to take internal applicants who had operational experience...that might be the case now for Int O as well.  Again, just a somewhat experienced guess on my part.
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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #648 on: October 04, 2017, 16:33:23 »
[quote author=Roger123 link=topic=70257.msg1505207#msg1505207 date=1507033143

By the way, do you have any insight as to why so little intelligence officer slots are open to prospective forces members. While not having applied to INT Officer myself, it seems to be a reoccurring theme for quite some time now.
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I have been told that its due to the low turnover for the position, coupled with the policy of equality within the forces. Again this is only what has been relayed to me but, on average there are only 1-2 slots open and over hundreds of applicants. I was further told that unless I was in the top 1% for that years CFAT then I would be out of contention, even then there's no guarantees. Though as the above poster mentioned, it could also be that they have so few slots that they can choose applicants with experience in a similar field as opposed to insanely high CFAT scores. Hope that sheds some light on it.

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Re: Aircrew Selection/ACS (Merged)
« Reply #649 on: October 04, 2017, 17:09:05 »
[quote author=Roger123 link=topic=70257.msg1505207#msg1505207 date=1507033143

By the way, do you have any insight as to why so little intelligence officer slots are open to prospective forces members. While not having applied to INT Officer myself, it seems to be a reoccurring theme for quite some time now.


I have been told that its due to the low turnover for the position, coupled with the policy of equality within the forces. Again this is only what has been relayed to me but, on average there are only 1-2 slots open and over hundreds of applicants. I was further told that unless I was in the top 1% for that years CFAT then I would be out of contention, even then there's no guarantees. Though as the above poster mentioned, it could also be that they have so few slots that they can choose applicants with experience in a similar field as opposed to insanely high CFAT scores. Hope that sheds some light on it.

And here I though pilot was a competitive trade to get into  ;)