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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #200 on: May 25, 2016, 07:01:15 »
For your SA, DP1 Armd Recce is approx. 5 weeks, with most weekends scheduled to be off. BMQ-L is 12 training days.

Karmeliet, if you do weekend BMQ during the training year, you can expect to be away from late June/early July until late Aug.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #201 on: May 25, 2016, 08:05:50 »
For the most part Reserve soldiering is part-time (i.e. one or two evenings a weekend and occasional weekends).  However, they do need to bring you up to a certain level of training, which would take years if they had to do it in three hour slots, once per week.  So yes, there will be periods of extended training when you will have to stay overnight for several nights (or weeks).  Keep in mind that they pay you for this and most students find that as a summer job it pays pretty well (and is whole lot more fun than flipping burgers).
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #202 on: May 25, 2016, 08:23:35 »
Is there no way around this full-time summer training?

See also,

Reserve Q?s: Is summer training mandatory?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,24352.0.html
OP: "Is summer training for Reserves mandatory?
Couldnā€˜t the BMQ and the rest of Basic Training be completed during the one evening a week and certain weekends that must be attended for training?"
2 pages.

Any reserve DP1/DP2 training that can be done outside of summer courses?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=104076.0
OP: "I've been exploring reserve occupations that can accommodate working people who can't take summer courses due to work/lack of vacation.
It's either weekend training, modular training or changing/quitting jobs to make the reserves happen."

etc...

There are many discussions regarding full-time versus part-time Reserve training.

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.


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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #203 on: May 26, 2016, 14:08:52 »
Is there no way around this full-time summer training? I have studies in the summer, that is why I ask. Everything seems perfect about joining the reserves part-time apart from this apparent obligation to go full-time for over two months in a different city. Thanks for reading and for any replies
I spoke to a recruiter on teusday evening, (I apologize for not knowing the acronyms for training. So bear with me) and what I got from it is for the reserves you will complete your BMQ on weekends over the course ofna few months, then you go for your trade specific training over the summer, however, you can conplete your trade specific training over two summers, in 3 week blocks, but it's not recommended, not only is there the possibility of forgetting what you have learned (due to the fact it's not all in one smooth transition tying all your training together) but you also cannot join in with all the training exercises because you will be in a B unit, so you would be helping set up the exercises for the trained reservists or cleaning weapons etc. My recruiter warned me that it would be a very boring way to spend a year.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #204 on: May 26, 2016, 14:40:43 »
So bear with me) and what I got from it is for the reserves you will complete your BMQ on weekends over the course ofna few months, then you go for your trade specific training over the summer, however, you can conplete your trade specific training over two summers, in 3 week blocks, but it's not recommended, not only is there the possibility of forgetting what you have learned (due to the fact it's not all in one smooth transition tying all your training together) but you also cannot join in with all the training exercises because you will be in a B unit, so you would be helping set up the exercises for the trained reservists or cleaning weapons etc.

See also,

Weekend courses over summer?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,81143.msg776170.html#msg776170
"So for those of us that have jobs that we wouldn't be able to take time off from during the summer, we'll just have to wait in till the resumption of regular training after summer to go on course over the weekends?"
"...depending on what trade you intend to join, the requisite trade courses will, in alot of cases, only be available full-time during the summer."

Work Full time, Basic Training Days
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=105695.0
"ALL trade courses are done on a full time basis in the summer."

Work balance in the CAF Reserves
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=120550.0
"I also recently started a full time civilian job. I am wondering if you guys can share you experience working full time in a civilian job and balancing that with military life.Was it difficult?"

Does my civilian job work with Reserve Service?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=120072.0
"If you join the reserves, expect to be gone for two full months the first summer you're in."

etc..
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #205 on: May 26, 2016, 17:37:24 »
Is there no way around this full-time summer training?
As stated, no.
You can:
-Not join
-Join and go away for one summer then spend the rest of your career putting in as little work and effort as possible, basically taking the spot of someone who would contribute to the unit a lot more.
-Talk to your teachers and come up with some kind of arrangement like taking your exams early.

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apart from this apparent obligation to go full-time for over two months in a different city.
What would you do if you join the reserves and are for whatever reason ordered to work full time for X amount of weeks/months?

It's probably not your fault, it's probably the recruiters for just trying to get you in the door and not explaining the environment and expectations better.  The reserves doesn't exist to put money in your pocket when it's convenient to be blatantly honest.
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #206 on: May 31, 2016, 14:13:26 »
As stated, no.
You can:
-Not join
-Join and go away for one summer then spend the rest of your career putting in as little work and effort as possible, basically taking the spot of someone who would contribute to the unit a lot more.
-Talk to your teachers and come up with some kind of arrangement like taking your exams early.
What would you do if you join the reserves and are for whatever reason ordered to work full time for X amount of weeks/months?

It's probably not your fault, it's probably the recruiters for just trying to get you in the door and not explaining the environment and expectations better.  The reserves doesn't exist to put money in your pocket when it's convenient to be blatantly honest.

I'm with you on everything except the bolded part.

Given that the last time that's happened was towards the end of world war 2, I don't see it as a factor. Yes, its conceivable that an earth-shattering event and change in government policy could mean a mandatory callup, and that liability should be mentioned to someone joining the CF. But telling them to prepare to plan a break in their routine life with work and school for any circumstance short of that is getting off-track.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #207 on: May 31, 2016, 15:11:33 »
What would you do if you join the reserves and are for whatever reason ordered to work full time for X amount of weeks/months?

Given that the last time that's happened was towards the end of world war 2, I don't see it as a factor. Yes, its conceivable that an earth-shattering event and change in government policy could mean a mandatory callup, and that liability should be mentioned to someone joining the CF. But telling them to prepare to plan a break in their routine life with work and school for any circumstance short of that is getting off-track.

Even if that were to happen, "Leave of absence shall be granted to employees to serve in the Armed Forces during hostilities or during a time of war as declared by the Government of Canada. Seniority will accumulate during such leave."

That's the written agreement where I used to work. YMMV. It applies not only to Reservists, but also Volunteers and those who may be conscripted.

See also the 20-page, "Reservists Job Protection Superthread".

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #208 on: June 02, 2016, 09:25:32 »
Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter. Adding for reference,

"I'm going to be submitting my application shortly for the Navy Reserves and I was wondering if the tests and interview are put up against all positions available to reservists or only the ones on your application (maximum of 3)."
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123204.0.html
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #209 on: June 06, 2016, 21:49:31 »
Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter. Adding for reference,

Choosing a reserve unit to apply to and the trades on application
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123215.msg1438861/topicseen.html#new
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #210 on: June 14, 2016, 14:14:29 »
Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter. Adding for reference,

Re-apply reserve after declining reg force offer
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123321.msg1440362/topicseen.html#new
Q: "I am curious what the wait time is to re-apply for reservist"

A: There is no wait time to re-apply.  Because you are changing elements and CFRCs there is some administration that will need to take place for your file to continue.
* You will need to contact your new CFRC to ask for your file to be transferred.
* You will need to contact the Reserve unit to find out if (1) they're hiring and if so (2) when you can do a FORCE Test with them.




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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #211 on: June 19, 2016, 03:07:35 »
Hello,

I just joined the army PRES and got my kit. I am going on BMQ on Monday 20, but my unit didn't send me a kit list. Since nobody is working there until Monday, there is no hope that I will receive it until its too late (I have to leave at 830 AM on monday, the same time the regiment's office opens). Could anybody forward me the kit list for PRES? I was thinking of taking all of my kit in case I receive no information.

Thanks to everyone in advance

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #212 on: June 19, 2016, 09:27:57 »
I was thinking of taking all of my kit in case I receive no information.

You may find this discussion of interest,

Reserve BMQ - What to bring?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=101439.0
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #213 on: June 19, 2016, 14:36:15 »
Hello,

I just joined the army PRES and got my kit. I am going on BMQ on Monday 20, but my unit didn't send me a kit list. Since nobody is working there until Monday, there is no hope that I will receive it until its too late (I have to leave at 830 AM on monday, the same time the regiment's office opens). Could anybody forward me the kit list for PRES? I was thinking of taking all of my kit in case I receive no information.

Thanks to everyone in advance

I'd bring everything. Some of it you won't need I.E ICE Pants/ICE Jacket, Winter gloves, Toque etc because it is summer. But on my basic we had to show that physically had every piece of kit we signed for.. I'd pack it smarter, like i'd throw all of the obvious winter stuff in the barrack box and pack everything for the summer, in the two duffels..

You don't want to be that guy who "didn't think that we were going to need it"  especially on basic.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #214 on: June 27, 2016, 13:23:52 »
Hello, I am currently 15 going onto 16 soon and want to join the Canadian reserves. I am only heading into Grade 10 this year. I wasent held back I was just raised in a different country for a short time. will the fact that i'm only going into Grade 10 this year affect my chances of getting in?

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #215 on: June 27, 2016, 13:30:36 »
I am only heading into Grade 10 this year.

Education

To apply to the Forces you must have passed Grade 10 or Secondaire IV (in Quebec). http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100#education

For reference, perhaps this will be merged with,

QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=16735.125
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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #216 on: July 11, 2016, 19:21:51 »
Can you join your local reserves after you've applied for the regular force? And then transition to the regular force once your given a job offer? Given how long the process takes with the regular force I'm not seeing a problem in doing this...or am I wrong?

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #217 on: July 11, 2016, 19:23:44 »
You're wrong. One process will stop the other. Don't waste the Reserve unit's time and effort if you just plan on immediately going to the Regular Force.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #218 on: July 11, 2016, 19:31:10 »
I see. Thanks for the reply

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #219 on: July 11, 2016, 22:05:59 »
Likewise the time to transfer once you are already in the reserves makes whatever money/experience you make not worth it.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #220 on: July 11, 2016, 23:59:29 »
do NOT join the reserve to transfer , been there , done that , worst decision anyone could make !!!

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #221 on: August 23, 2016, 10:00:03 »
Adding for Reference,

Pay during Fall BMQ(Reserves)
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123906.0/topicseen.html

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #222 on: September 28, 2016, 15:25:24 »
For reference,

Reserve Question - Training 

I have been looking in joining the reserve for a while now and I have decided to join. The main reason I am posting this is I am currently employed at a job that requires me to work (40 hrs/week) and I was wondering with the Training required for any position in the Canadian Armed Forces would it be possible for me to join?

Good Day,

Training requirements for the Primary Reserve vary depending on the unit you're joining and the occupation that you would like to become.  Unfortunately we cannot give a simple answer to your query above.  I highly suggest that you visit the Reserve unit that you're interested in joining and speak with the unit recruiter and the individuals at that unit.

Just as an example, the Naval Reserve only does Summer BMQ where you have to be gone for 8 weeks.  The Army Reserve has co-op BMQ, weekend BMQ and summer BMQ.  Beyond that each trade has it's own training time, some occupations have really short courses (2-3 weeks) for their trade course, others can be closer to 3-4 months for the Reserves.

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #223 on: October 09, 2016, 01:17:30 »
Just curious xD
« Last Edit: October 09, 2016, 01:23:42 by Eric16 »
Recruiting Centre: HMCS Discovery/New Westminister RC
Regular/ Reserve: Reserve
Officer/NCM: NCM
Trade Choice 1: Naval Combat Information Operator
Trade Choice 2: Boatswain
Trade Choice 3: Naval Communicator
Online Application: July 19th 2016
First Contact: July 21th 2016
FORCE test: July 28th, 2016 (Passed)
CFAT: September 22nd, 2016 (Passed)
Medical: October 21st, 2016 (Passed)
Interview: October 21st, 2016 (Passed)
Position offered: Boatswain
Swearing in: December 6th, 2016
BMQ: TBD

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Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
« Reply #224 on: October 09, 2016, 08:02:04 »
Just curious xD

Regular/ Reserve: Reserve

You are applying as a Reservist,

From a CAF Recruiter in 2012,

CAFIB 20 is a "Permanent ID Card" and the CAFIB 13 is a "Temporary ID Card".  CAFIB 13 is issued by your local Military Police Ident Section.  Your Res F Unit should provide you with an ID Request Form and make an appointment to be processed.  The CAFIB 20 will follow in a few months.

Also, I don't believe they use the term "CAFIB" any longer.....I think it has been changed to NDI 20 or 13.

CFAO 26-3

Close.

It is now:

Temporary ID card is a NDI 10
Permanent ID card is a NDI 20

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