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Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« on: July 21, 2013, 11:38:55 »
Hey all I'm taking a millwright course this year for 10 months, wondering if any of the training will be useful or comparable for the MESO trade. link   http://www.wtc.mb.ca/wp/programs/certificate-programs/industrial-mechanicmillwright/course-content/
Also I've heard that the navy will pitch some cash for school while you're a reservist but haven't had any confirmation. I'm currently awaiting my interview and what not. any input would be great thanks.

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Re: Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2013, 12:35:20 »
Hey all I'm taking a millwright course this year for 10 months, wondering if any of the training will be useful or comparable for the MESO trade. link   http://www.wtc.mb.ca/wp/programs/certificate-programs/industrial-mechanicmillwright/course-content/
Also I've heard that the navy will pitch some cash for school while you're a reservist but haven't had any confirmation. I'm currently awaiting my interview and what not. any input would be great thanks.

I had a look at the training you would receive as a millwright and most of the skills would be very useful in the MESO trade.
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Re: Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2013, 13:26:01 »
does the meso course include general skills or is it more specific to one system?
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Re: Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2013, 22:53:51 »
does the meso course include general skills or is it more specific to one system?

The course starts with basic hand tools and gets into basic electrical, hydraulics and so forth, that's at the fleet school in Quebec City.  When the course moves to the ship (Halifax or Esquimat) you get to start instruction on the various shipboard systems, including sailing time where you qualify for your Cert A. After that you made be loaded on various coursing such as emergency burning and welding.
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Re: Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2013, 18:59:33 »
Thanks for the response, what does the time frame look like for that? I've read the job fact sheet from the navres site and it says 4-6 months. for a QL2, is that to be completed all at once or can it be done in parts. Also it seems like since the NETP is 4 weeks(info from that same pdf file) they will try to do that training in sequence and squeeze it all into one summer? Seems like the right thing to do is get that first hurdle over with and then you're good to go as far as taking large amounts of time off work goes. Also, is there a system where some courses can be written off since my civilian career path has already covered it? Or is that not possible.

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Re: Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2013, 19:57:13 »
How much, if any, training would a MESO get in machining?

I know civi side, a marine engineer who's handy with a lathe is always useful... more so if you can use a milling machine too... it's a dying skill-set... even just being able to turn down valves is not a common skill... I've been trying to find someone who knows a bit to teach me enough so I can start picking away at it, but no such luck.
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Re: Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2013, 20:31:39 »
How much, if any, training would a MESO get in machining?

I know civi side, a marine engineer who's handy with a lathe is always useful... more so if you can use a milling machine too... it's a dying skill-set... even just being able to turn down valves is not a common skill... I've been trying to find someone who knows a bit to teach me enough so I can start picking away at it, but no such luck.

The MESO's actually get no training in machining, however a good amount of millwright training is directly transferable to what they do on ship.
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Re: Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2013, 04:39:53 »
How much, if any, training would a MESO get in machining?

I know civi side, a marine engineer who's handy with a lathe is always useful... more so if you can use a milling machine too... it's a dying skill-set... even just being able to turn down valves is not a common skill... I've been trying to find someone who knows a bit to teach me enough so I can start picking away at it, but no such luck.
MAR ENG do get Machine Shop training as part of their QL5 (12 weeks I believe) with the phase culminating in the construction of various valve parts. (It used to be the construction of all the components to construct a working heat engine). If a student achieves 80%+ and is recommended by shop staff, he/she can take a Machinist Specialist course. I know of several graduates who have passed this to go straight in and write their Red Seal Millwright qual.

As well, NETP is either 17 or 19 days (can't remember which). There is a QSP amendment in right now to add a day (atleast) for travel time.
Just curious-Why are you looking at MESO(Res) vice MAR ENG(RegF)? And, by the way, I am not trying to dissuade you at all, the MESO Occ is actually 'mildly' distressed right now.
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Re: Millwright - MESO training relevance?
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2013, 17:34:23 »

Just curious-Why are you looking at MESO(Res) vice MAR ENG(RegF)? And, by the way, I am not trying to dissuade you at all, the MESO Occ is actually 'mildly' distressed right now.
I want to have a civilian career as a millwright as well because there are a lot of things I would like to do in the civi world that I otherwise couldn't do in the navy. But I still want to have the experience of the navy. Seeing as the MESO trade is the most comparable to what I like doing already with an interesting twist, that's why I was interested. Also my current living situation doesn't allow me to just get up and move to one of the coasts.