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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2014, 14:19:00 »
So when was the last time that  involuntary deployment was enacted?



The usual simple answer is World War 2.  However, as FJAG mentioned in his detailed, lawyerly post, the practice since Korea, and perhaps earlier, has been to rely on reservists individually volunteering.  The perhaps earlier experience also mostly relied on individuals volunteering for "overseas" active service.  In the months leading up to the declaration of war against Germany in 1939, some units of The Non-Permanent Active Militia (the whole Canadian Army was called the Militia, the Regs being in the Permanent Active Militia) had been placed on active service to guard vital points.  With the mobilization of an Active Service Force that would see overseas service, members of the NPAM (and perhaps the PAM) "re-attested" for the Active Service Force, just as they had for similar overseas service during the Boer War and WW1.  Likely there may have been members of the NPAM who refused to re-attest for the ASF, but I don't have any details about what action would have been taken against such militiamen.  The preceding notwithstanding there were Canadian soldiers who were involuntarily sent overseas later in the war when conscripts (who had previously been told that they would not be sent overseas) were required to meet personnel shortages.
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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2014, 00:53:52 »
Hey everyone,

I am interested in joining the Army Reserve Force but have a question to ask as I seem to have discovered conflicting statements made by the CAF. On the forces.ca website, in particular the webpage entitled "Career Options" under "Part Time", or following this link and clicking "Part Time":

http://www.forces.ca/en/page/careeroptions-123#PartTime-2

It states that "reservists may be asked to serve full time as part of a mission in Canada or overseas. As a reservist, the choice to go is always voluntary." Also, the same webpage states that "Reservists train and work close to home. They do not have to serve overseas, but many choose to do so."

Now looking over the "Queen's regulations and Orders" under Volume I, Chapter 9, Section 1 and also in the National Defence Act, Section 31, both state:
 
  "The Governor in Council may place the Canadian Forces or any component, unit or other element thereof or any officer or non-commissioned member thereof on active service anywhere in or beyond Canada at any time when it appears advisable to do so"

I am unsure which statement is binding. Is the forces.ca webpage lying to me? As a Reserve Force member, is it actually possible to be deployed overseas involuntarily, and or without my consent as the website advocates against? Am I confused with the definition of "Active Service"? Did I miss any exceptions to the above sections?

I look forward to becoming a part of the Army Reserve Force, but before that, I would like clarification on this subject prior to applying.

Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks to everyone in advance!

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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2014, 11:31:25 »
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Yes - you could be involuntarily deployed.  Is it going to happen? No.  Has it happened in the last 50 years? No.

We're talking a full-out, throw down fight that would cause the GOC to enact this power.
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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2014, 12:28:24 »
Merged (with a few topics, there are still plenty of other ones) and locking since this is not new, nor has anything changed in the last several decades regarding how reserves are deployed/activated etc.  Also friendly reminder, if you aren't a recruiter DON'T answer threads in the ask a recruiter section.

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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2017, 23:39:58 »
Hello, I am new to this forum and had a sudden question as I was browsing here. If someone was 16, in the reserves, and a full time high school student, could that person volunteer to go on any operations? Any information would be great thanks

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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2017, 23:47:26 »
No-one under the age of 18 can be deployed on overseas operations.


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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2017, 23:53:51 »
Specifically, per the National Defence Act:

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Limitation on Deployment

Marginal note:Persons under eighteen

34 A person who is under the age of eighteen years may not be deployed by the Canadian Forces to a theatre of hostilities.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/N-5/page-7.html#h-24
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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2017, 00:53:24 »
Thanks for the info!


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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2017, 15:31:09 »
Can you volunteer for deployment in CAF?

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Re: Reserves and Deployment
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2017, 15:37:26 »
Can you volunteer for deployment in CAF?

Yes.

"Reservists train and work close to home. They do not have to serve overseas, but many choose to do so. Reservists volunteer also support Canadians at home, such as during natural disaster relief operations and sovereignty exercises."
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/careeroptions-123#tab3

"However, in the event of a threat or crisis, you may be asked to serve full-time as part of a mission in Canada or overseas. As a Reservist, the choice to participate is always voluntary."
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/lifeintheforces-75

See also,

Reserves and Deployment
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=102409.0
2 pages.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2017, 18:16:46 by mariomike »
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