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Title: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Evan on June 01, 2004, 20:44:57
 Hey ppl i just remebered this site so i decided to see if my account was still here :).

anyways i recently came across this on the CIA website:



 Military manpower - military age:
   
16 years of age (2003 est.)

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ca.html


is this true?, it seems like a mistake on the CIA's part.


- Evan


( I like the new look for the site :army: )
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: D-n-A on June 01, 2004, 20:48:45
You can join the Reserve at 16, but not the Reg Force.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: AlphaCharlie on June 01, 2004, 21:20:51
Try not using an american site for your references.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Northern Touch on June 01, 2004, 23:06:29
Try not using an american site for your references.

Actually, that CIA Factbook is a GREAT source for projects and information on different countries, especially because its updated every year..

It you can join the reserves at age 16, technically that is the minimum age to join the military, so the site is accurate.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Evan on June 01, 2004, 23:10:06
i wasnt, i found that while researching a project on American foriegn policy and noticed it. it has nothing to do with my person refrences to the canadian army.

also there is nothing wrong with the CIA world  factbook, its better then most at providing small details of a countries economy,population, ect. if there is somthing wrong about it don't hesitate to speak up.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Infanteer on June 02, 2004, 03:51:44
The age of 16 is used as a statistical parameter for determining military manpower; it is applied throughout their factbook and does not vary by state service ages.

The CIA World Factbook is a great resource, especially if you get into comparative politics.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Military Brat on June 02, 2004, 12:40:06
As far as I know, in accordance with international laws regarding war, you must be 18 years old before you can be sent into a conflict zone. With that said, I also remember reading that you can join the regular force at age 17 with parental consent. Thirdly, you can join the reserves at age 16 as I am currently in the process of doing right now.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Andy_d on June 02, 2004, 18:24:24
Yes you can join the reserves at 16, someone i was sworn in with was 16, and wasn't even turning 17 anytime soon.

Military Brat is right, during the q/a period with a sgt the question came up and you aren't eligible for deployment voluntary or ordered until you are 18.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: zee_ro on June 09, 2004, 21:24:14
which might bring you to another point, if you are old enough to join the army, shouldnt you be old enough to drink????
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: GypsyPronto on June 09, 2004, 22:02:55
I just turned 17 two weeks ago. I have been in almost a full year now.
And I agree with you totally Zee...If I'm old enough to be in the military I should be old enough to drink!!!!!!
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Cpl Bloggins on June 09, 2004, 22:03:25
yes you'd THINK so, but unfortunately....  :fifty: not the case.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ToRN on June 09, 2004, 23:53:20
I just turned 17 two weeks ago. I have been in almost a full year now.
And I agree with you totally Zee...If I'm old enough to be in the military I should be old enough to drink!!!!!!
Hate to disappoint you Private, but there are laws against that for good reason.

Although you may be mature because you are in the military reserve, most people your age are not, and those kind of kids are not mature enough to drink responsibly trust me, I know, I was the same age a year and a half ago.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ags281 on June 10, 2004, 01:17:36
Just playing devil's advocate here   >:D:
16/17 may be old enough to join the res/reg military, but obviously the country still thinks that's too young to get shot at, or else there would be no problem with someone under 18 going on deployment. Something to think about if you plan on using the "if I'm old enough to die..." argument. (end of devil's advocate role)

It's entirely possible to be underage and 100% responsible enough to drink. However, it's also true that teenagers tend to have a higher rate of not knowing what their limits are. Taken on a case by case basis, in addition to a number of underage people that I would trust with alcohol, there are also some 20, 30, 40+ year olds that I would not. Unfortunately the law can't work that way. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and there will always be the unfortunate few. If you're responsible enough to drink, you should also be able to recognize that 18/19 (depending on province) isn't all that long to wait to do it legally, and that it's not an issue at all to be throwing back a coke instead of a beer. It's who you're with, not what you're drinking (besides, caffeine can mess you up pretty good too   ;D).

If anyone argues against 16/17 year olds being allowed inside their respective messes though, all that can be said is   :fifty:
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Carcharodon Carcharias on June 10, 2004, 04:00:54
I turned 16 on 26 Oct 75, and joined up on 20 Jan 76. A good friend turned 16 on 30 Dec, and we joined at the same time. Then the catch was you had to turn 17 by the yrs end if I remember right. Later I think it was changed you had to be 17 by 01 Jul of that yr. I dont know what it is now.

As for drinking, well in those days at the Regina Grn Jr's Mess, we used to get +18's to by at the mess or depending on the bartender, you were allowed a couple. I guess those days are long gone now.

Looking back now, it didnt hurt any of us, but with 'duty of care' and the rest of it now a days, blame can now be directed on the bartender and CO, etc, if there was an unfortunate incident.

Times have in deed changed.

Cheers,

Wes
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Spr.Earl on June 10, 2004, 04:13:00
At one time with your parents permission you could sign up at the age of 16,I don't know about now.
Yet in the U.K. they did have the Boy Soldiers who came from the Cadets and lived the life till they come of age to go Reg.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Carcharodon Carcharias on June 10, 2004, 04:25:21
Ya, I had to get parental permission, inwhich my Dad eagerly signed. I guess mums are just always more protective. She was not as eager. Mums are just Mums arent they.

In Australia, you could inlist as an Army apprentice at 15 ( with Mum and Dads approval of course) until not that long ago.


Cheers,

Wes
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Noyon on June 13, 2004, 22:12:40
I joined the CF Primary Reserve a few years ago when I was 16. This is absolutely correct, you will need parental consent signatures on your criminal screening documents etc. since you are below the age of 18. You cannot join the Regulars until you are considered and adult and you are not permitted to go out of the country of military duty.

In case your curious you'll be mkaing about 500 / week in basic.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Da_man on June 13, 2004, 23:23:57
I joined at 16  8)
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nate M on June 15, 2004, 16:15:23
I handed in my application on my 16th birthday, they didnt swear me in for 8 months but still.  Is there any exception for peacekeeping missions to for example Bosnia?  I know reservists can go over there.  I don't know if it would be counted as a combat zone, or is it you can't be sent on tour until 18?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ags281 on June 16, 2004, 02:38:56
If it's anywhere outside Canada and not for training purposes, then they won't let you go until you're 18. Just because peacekeeping has "peace" in the title doesn't mean you aren't at risk of getting shot at.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nat. Cap. Girl on June 16, 2004, 13:45:29
what about if you want to go to RMC?  I'm starting grade 12 next year, and I'm turning 17 in Nov. (and they want you to apply in november)  So how does that work?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Noyon on June 16, 2004, 17:54:04
what about if you want to go to RMC?   I'm starting grade 12 next year, and I'm turning 17 in Nov. (and they want you to apply in november)   So how does that work?

Not to sure I understand your question really, but you'll be able to join. Now that I think of it your allowed to join the regulars at the age of 17 - just keep in mind you wont be going anywhere until your 18.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nat. Cap. Girl on June 16, 2004, 18:58:08
cool, thanks!

well my question was... if you want to go to rmc, you're doint the ROTP right so you'd be joining reg.  but if they want us to apply in november, i'll have maybe just turned 17 depending on when i go in nov.  but you answered my question, thanks
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Samurai on October 22, 2008, 00:52:46
Hi all, my name is Kyle and I'm 18 yrs old. I'm from Port Colborne Ontario..

For the past 6 months I've wanted to join the army, I wanna join as an Infantryman but due to having a boxing career that I plan to pursue, I don't wanna join Regular Force and since I've read what the Reserves are, I think that'd work out better. So, I have a few questions regarding the reserves.

Do reservists go to BMQ in Quebec still for 13 weeks? (or however long it is..) or to the unit closest to you?

The closest reserve unit to me is in St. Catharines, only 15-20 minutes away. If you go to the nearest unit closest to you, how does that work? Do you still stay there everyday until BMQ is done or come home and then go back the next day?

And also for reservists, what happens after BMQ? Where do they go from here?

Appreciate your answers......


Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: P-PLATOON on October 22, 2008, 01:08:57
Hello Samurai,

Welcome to the Army.ca boards.

All of your questions can be answered via the search function. Type in "reserves" and "BMQ" and a plethora of information will be at your fingertips.

However, as a member of the Lincoln and Welland Regiment (The reserve unit that is close to you in St. Catharines), I can help you out with getting in touch with the unit recruiter, if you feel you want to join the CF.

We have "C" company in Welland, which is much closer to you then St. Catharines.

After you have done a search and still have questions "PM" me and I will try and help you out.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 02, 2012, 16:13:00
I've been interested in joining the army for a while so i wnt ahead and contacted a recrutiter, he said that you are able to join the reserves at 16 with parental consent but today my mom wanted more information about the reserves so she contacted a recruiter and he told her that you cannot join reserves under the age of 18 so im just wondering if this is true?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Lil r on March 02, 2012, 16:16:39
I joined the reserves at 16 with parental consent. The rules have changed a bit though since then, someone correct me if I am wrong. I believe it is 17 with parental consent for reserves and 16 with parental consent while applying for RMC
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 02, 2012, 16:23:32
I joined the reserves at 16 with parental consent. The rules have changed a bit though since then, someone correct me if I am wrong. I believe it is 17 with parental consent for reserves and 16 with parental consent while applying for RMC
   Well that sucks i was really looking forward to enlisting but i've been waiting for 6 years one mores not so bad.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Lil r on March 02, 2012, 16:29:12
Off forces.ca

Be 17 years of age (with parental or guardian consent) or older, except:

    Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applicants, who must be 16 years of age or older

This has also been discussed on the this forum before, remember to use the search function (or google, it works better) before starting a new thread and good luck with your eventual process.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: C.G.R on March 02, 2012, 17:22:43
It is correct that the age is now 17. However I would still reccomend trying, for me they still processed me while I was 16 but I was not able to swear in until I turned 17. I can't guarantee it will happen, but its worth a try.

C.G.R
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 02, 2012, 17:30:27
yeah i hope i could get my processing done at least and to be honest i'm not sure if the guy even knew everything because he said there is no possible way to get into the forces until the age of 18 unless i do a high school coop program and i don't think thats true.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on March 02, 2012, 17:49:19
Patience, Youngling. The rest of your life before you, you have.

In the meantime, spellcheck, proper grammar, sentence structure, capitalization, and punctuation please use.

Welcome to Army.ca you are.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brihard on March 02, 2012, 17:49:29
From CANFORGEN 038/11

3. IN THE RESERVE FORCE, AN APPLICANT MUST BE:

A. AGE 18, IF THE APPLICANT ENROLS IN THE COATS OR CANADIAN RANGERS

B. AGE 16, IF THE APPLICANT IS SELECTED FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT A ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE OR OTHERWISE MAINTAINS FULL-TIME STUDENT STATUS UNTIL AGE 17.



Nothing here says that high school does not count. I know that I enrolled a guy in January who is 16 and who had no trouble going through CFRC. He's still in high school full time. I do not know if explicitly that reasoning was used by CFRC, but there was no hindrance and they certainly knew his age.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 02, 2012, 20:25:02
From CANFORGEN 038/11

3. IN THE RESERVE FORCE, AN APPLICANT MUST BE:

A. AGE 18, IF THE APPLICANT ENROLS IN THE COATS OR CANADIAN RANGERS

B. AGE 16, IF THE APPLICANT IS SELECTED FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT A ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE OR OTHERWISE MAINTAINS FULL-TIME STUDENT STATUS UNTIL AGE 17.



Nothing here says that high school does not count. I know that I enrolled a guy in January who is 16 and who had no trouble going through CFRC. He's still in high school full time. I do not know if explicitly that reasoning was used by CFRC, but there was no hindrance and they certainly knew his age.
 
Yeah I'm going to head down to the recruiting office sometime next week and see if there's anyway I could at least start my processing now. I have no problem waiting I was just confused because I was told different things.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: George Wallace on March 02, 2012, 20:56:24
 
Yeah I'm going to head down to the recruiting office sometime next week and see if there's anyway I could at least start my processing now. I have no problem waiting I was just confused because I was told different things.

All you can do is get the forms and fill them out.  The CFRC will not process them until such time as you are of age.   The forms in the meantime may become lost or destroyed.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brasidas on March 02, 2012, 21:37:35
All you can do is get the forms and fill them out.  The CFRC will not process them until such time as you are of age.   The forms in the meantime may become lost or destroyed.

The previous poster stated he had a member sworn in at 16 this past January. Given that, CFRC would process him at 16.

3b of CANFORGEN 038/11 would appear to apply.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 02, 2012, 23:23:52
I'm beyond confused I understand you need to be 17 to enlist but I have different people telling me all different things so I'm just going to have to wait till next week when I am able to go in to the recruiting centre to see what they have to say.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brasidas on March 03, 2012, 00:10:18
I'm beyond confused I understand you need to be 17 to enlist but I have different people telling me all different things so I'm just going to have to wait till next week when I am able to go in to the recruiting centre to see what they have to say.

Sounds like a plan. Let us know what CFRC's latest take is.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Stevenhh on March 03, 2012, 00:25:48
Well you can look at my situation.

Currently I am still 16 (turn 17 in May) and I already started my application at an artillery reserve unit in Vancouver (dropped it off on Feb. 28th). I was told by the recruiter that all my testing and interview can be finished right now, but I have wait till my 17th birthday to actually be sworn in. (And for the trade to open up April 1st)

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 05, 2012, 11:32:36
I talked to them today and they said there is no way of joining at 16, 17 is the legal age and they recommended I go to the cadets.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Greenr on March 06, 2012, 21:07:32
I talked to them today and they said there is no way of joining at 16, 17 is the legal age and they recommended I go to the cadets.

You are incorrect. Went to the CFRC the other day and was told at 16 I'm fine. I asked about the entry plan and he asked, "Are you in high school?" I of course answered yes. He told me that's it! So if you're 16, in high school and have parental consent you are in fact ale to join to reserves.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brasidas on March 06, 2012, 22:09:44
You are incorrect. Went to the CFRC the other day and was told at 16 I'm fine. I asked about the entry plan and he asked, "Are you in high school?" I of course answered yes. He told me that's it! So if you're 16, in high school and have parental consent you are in fact ale to join to reserves.

You might try PM'ing the name and contact info of that recruiter to the poster who was told otherwise.

Trying to trump a local CFRC recruiter's knowledge with "this guy on the internet told me you're wrong" might be less than productive.

A name@forces.gc.ca e-mail address should be sufficient.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Greenr on March 06, 2012, 22:15:59
To be quite honest, I forget his name - if I saw it I would remember but there's no staff list for me to look up online. I'm surprised two different recruiters are saying two completely different things though.

He was from the Toronto CFRC and I believe it was polish (ended in ski) and started with a K.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MikeL on March 06, 2012, 22:19:52
Greenr, you are 16 years old right now correct?  Will you be turning 17 in this year? 

To enlist in the PRes you do have to be 17, this changed last year?  If you are currently 16 but will be turning 17 soon you can probably start the application process. Perhaps that is why your recruiter said it wasn't a problem.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 06, 2012, 22:22:42
Wow I am really getting fed up with this, everyone keeps saying 16 which i know is true but when I talk to somebody they tell me to go join the cadets.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MikeL on March 06, 2012, 22:26:28
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/howtoapply-106

Quote
To be eligible to apply to the Canadian Forces, you must meet the following three minimum requirements:
 
1. Be a Canadian Citizen
 
2. Be 17 years of age (with parental or guardian consent) or older, except: • Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applicants, who must be 16 years of age or older
 

3. Meet the minimum education requirements for your desired military occupation: • Grade 10 or Secondaire IV in Quebec, and additional educational prerequisites as specified by the occupation

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Hamish Seggie on March 06, 2012, 22:27:34
Wow I am really getting fed up with this, everyone keeps saying 16 which i know is true but when I talk to somebody they tell me to go join the cadets.


Trust me, it's 17.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 06, 2012, 22:27:52
But what about this also off the website
Quote
would like to join the Canadian Forces. What are the basic requirements?
 
 
 
You must meet the following minimal conditions: be a Canadian citizen; be at least 17 years of age (16 for the Reserves and Military College) with parental/guardian consent for minors; have successfully completed Grade 10 (Sec III in Quebec); some entry programs have additional academic prerequisites.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Hamish Seggie on March 06, 2012, 22:31:10
There was a message some time ago that stated the age for the Reserves is 17.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MikeL on March 06, 2012, 22:32:48
jackmomma,  not all parts of that site are up to date;  trust us it is 17.  I believe the official message that states the change was posted on the forums aswell.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 06, 2012, 22:34:03
Yeah ill just wait, i'm just confused that some people were able to enlist at 16.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Greenr on March 06, 2012, 22:37:52
Skeletor, yes I am 16. I've talked to him twice. I turned 16 last august and right after that I went into the CFRC to clear up the same issue this thread is about. I wanted to know what the training plan was. I was told it basically means that you're in school. He told me I would be fine to join up, but there weren't any openings.

For the thread poster, I suggest going into the CFRC again and talk to a different recruiter. But don't go for cadets, especially at this age - it's not worth it.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jackmomma on March 06, 2012, 22:52:36
Well i'll go once more in the spring break to see again.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Tape on September 07, 2012, 21:39:53
Me and my friend have been wanting to join the reserves for quite a while now, and we've been looking at information about it, but I still have a few questions to ask. I have searched around the internet before posting, the Forces site itself has been very bleak with information. I plan on visiting a nearby recruitment centre (Moss Park) this weekend, but I figure I'll ask a few questions here first, if anyone can provide any information at all it would be helpful, thank you!

1. Where is the nearest location we can do BMQ? (I have a friend in the reserves, he said the nearest training base is CFB Trenton. This is quite far from where we live and neither of us own a car. I know that there are closer recruiting centres, but can we train at a location closer than Trenton?)

2. Although the minimum age to join is 17, there is something mentioned about a junior member program on the Forces site. The Forces site doesn't give much information about it, does anyone know what that's about? (I am 17 and my friend is 16. He will be 17 in January but we are very excited for this, the sooner we can start the better!)

3. If we were to do our BMQ during the summer, would we have the opportunity to live at the base for the 2 month duration, or would we need to commute daily? (If there isn't a closer training location than Trenton, we will have to do BMQ in the summer.)

Please forgive me if I missed some obvious information online, I have looked around quite a bit and these questions still remain. Like I mentioned earlier, I will be going down to a recruitment centre to ask questions soon. Thanks again!

Edit: The closest recruitment centre to me is Moss Park, if anybody needed an idea of where I live.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brihard on September 07, 2012, 21:48:18
I will assume you're looking at joining the infantry. If that's wrong, please correct me. I'm a recruiter for a reserve unit (Not in Toronto), so I may have some insight.

1. Reserve units will normally run BMQ locally. I would bet that in January or February a BMQ will probably start part time on weekends running somewhere out of Toronto. There are a ton of reserve units in the city. I wouldn't be surprised if one ran out of Moss Park. This would probably be about two weekends a month for a total of five months or so.

2. If you remain in high school full time you can join the reserves at 16, full stop.

3. There are two courses to get qualified in the infantry. BMQ takes about 20-22 training days, run either full time in a one month stretch (weekends are usually off) or part time as I mentioned above. The Infnatry course is broken into two modules The first mod can be either part time for the same duration, or full time for a month. The second mod is full time for a month. If done full time, the two mods will run back to back. Full time, they are run out of Meaford, Ontario, a particularly deplorable patch of the province near Owen Sound.

For the two of you, I advise you to apply immediately, on hopes that you get a part time BMQ in the winter/spring, then right onto your infantry course full time for two months in Meaford this summer.

Contact a recruiter at a Toronto unit for more solid information. Best of luck.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Tape on September 07, 2012, 21:50:04
Just the answer I was looking for, thank you SO much Brihard! We'll be going down to Moss Park this weekend!
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Dimsum on September 07, 2012, 22:05:42
Unless there's a weekend event going on already, the recruiters won't be in on the weekends. 

As the Reserve units recruit specifically for their unit (ie. you ask to join that specific unit rather than the CF in the beginning), you'll have to go to the unit in question on their parade night; Moss Park will have a few units, Fort York Armouries have a few, HMCS YORK has the Naval Reserve, and I think there is a detachment run out of Mississauga, Scarborough and Aurora if memory serves correctly.

All this to say:  Research what type of trade you want, then look into the units that offer them. 
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brihard on September 07, 2012, 22:09:04
Just the answer I was looking for, thank you SO much Brihard! We'll be going down to Moss Park this weekend!

Best to go in during a week day, talk to whoever's there, and find out what night the Queen's Own Rifles or the 48th Highlanders parade, and visit then. I've worked with guys from both, they're both good units.

Note that they may not have spots. Our budget year froms from 1 Apr - 31 Mar. By this time in the year units often have all the applicants they need. I've already got 8 of my 10 for the year.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Tape on September 07, 2012, 22:09:37
Unless there's a weekend event going on already, the recruiters won't be in on the weekends.  If you're looking for Moss Park specifically, look for the training nights for the units there (it's been a while so I can't remember who/when they parade.)

In that case, we'll go down next week. Thank you!
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: xer0 on September 20, 2012, 11:39:55
I'm sorry could someone clarify something for me? I went about 3 weeks ago to queens own rifles and they told me they were done recruiting for the year.  Was it just a polite way of turning me away or are they really not recruiting for awhile?  I have also contacted another reserve unit and they said they would call me by next april.  I would really also like to be in a reserve unit in the GTA but I am having a difficult time.  I have all my papers filled out, all my transcripts, everything ready to go.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: krimynal on September 20, 2012, 11:48:33
Note that they may not have spots. Our budget year froms from 1 Apr - 31 Mar. By this time in the year units often have all the applicants they need. I've already got 8 of my 10 for the year.


this quote is from brihard 3 post ago , so it is normal for them to be full.  since the budget year starts on april , they will be more likely to call you up by then !
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: xer0 on September 20, 2012, 12:12:13
Ok I was not sure if Brihard was in toronto or not and if he was infantry, if so it would be awesome if he could tell me if I could apply for one of the 2 spots left (if theyre still left)
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Journeyman on September 20, 2012, 12:30:13
Ok I was not sure if Brihard was in toronto or not

....I'm a recruiter for a reserve unit (Not in Toronto)....
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: the-man on October 22, 2012, 20:52:01
I am planning on joining the Canadian Forces reserves (army) but I'm quite young (I'm at the minimum age, 16). Will my young age affect any part of my career? I found a many reserve units in my area and the only occupations available are: infantry, artillery, armored and combat engineer. I am leaning towards combat engineer but haven't decided 100%. I would like to choose an occupation that would help in the future and I'm thinking of going in to law enforcement as my future career.
My main questions are:
1: Will my young age make it harder for me?
2. Will artillery help me in the future and with what field?
3. I'm not an olympian but I do pass all the physical standards easily but just barely pass the running standards. How much running is part of bmq?
4. How does bmq work in the reserves?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PrairieThunder on October 22, 2012, 22:00:06
You need to be 17 years of age with parental permission or 18 without. (for both Reserve Force and Regular Force)

You can be 16 if you are applying for ROTP.

All of your answers can be found at Forces.ca (http://Forces.ca)

3. You need to at least meet the minimum fitness requirement in order to be giving a position in the reserves. You will do various Fitness training every day on BMQ. Sometimes twice a day or more.

4. BMQ is full time over the Summer, or part-time in the Fall or Spring over weekends. Friday 7pm-Sunday 3pm every second weekend of the month.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DAA on October 22, 2012, 22:15:51
You need to be 17 years of age with parental permission or 18 without. (for both Reserve Force and Regular Force)

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG......

Entry standards for Reserve Force are not the same as Regular Force.......

Reserve Force - 16 years of age, with parental consent, provided you are currently attending school full-time.....
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brihard on October 22, 2012, 22:32:21
You need to be 17 years of age with parental permission or 18 without. (for both Reserve Force and Regular Force)

False. There are reserve recruiters here, and you are not among them. Please wait for one of us to respond rather than feeling the need to pitch in your two cents. I get the desire to be helpful, but you don't know enough yet.



To the original poster- you can join the reserves at the age of 16, with parental permission, provided you remain a full time student until the day you turn 17 (subject to the actual schedule of the school- nobody expects you to go to summer school to stay 'full time' until you turn 17 in, say, June)

1) Your young age may make it harder for you. You have emotional maturing to do yet; that's inevitable. However if you show up with a positive attitude and dedication you should be fine. Many of us weren't much more than that when we joined. I had only just turned 17 myself and yet they've continued to let me show up.

2) Artillery will help you with a future in artillery. There isn't much out there that artillery is transferable to. However, if you continue on for some years and rise up the ranks you will acquire many transferable skills and personal aptitudes: leadership, both trained and innate; confidence working with and comfort working for people. The ability to speak and to deliver material to groups. The ability to instruct more junior soldiers. And the intangible confidence that comes simply by virtue of doing something long enough that you know you're good at it.

3) Running will be part of BMQ, but not a huge part of it. Don't concern yourself with that: running is part of being in the *army*. BMQ is only the first step. Running is, fundamentally, cardio- and that keeps people alive, and it keeps them functional at the end of the first stage of a long session of 'this sucks' and ready to move on to the next part- you'll get what I mean in time.

4) Reserve BMQs for the most part run part time for about 11 weekend, spread out at roughly two weekends a month bewteen fal and late winter, and early winter to late spring. Some areas run full time BMQs in the May-July timeframe. Done full time the course is a month.

That should about cover it I think?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PrairieThunder on October 22, 2012, 22:52:33
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG......

Entry standards for Reserve Force are not the same as Regular Force.......

Reserve Force - 16 years of age, with parental consent, provided you are currently attending school full-time.....

Whoa calm down, I forgot that when CANFORGEN 038/11 CMP 019/11 171252Z FEB 11 came out that the "MAINTAINS FULL TIME STUDENT" clause was still in place. Damn.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Jarnhamar on October 22, 2012, 23:08:14
Whoa calm down, I forgot that when CANFORGEN 038/11 CMP 019/11 171252Z FEB 11 came out that the "MAINTAINS FULL TIME STUDENT" clause was still in place. Damn.

You should let CF members associated with recruiting answer questions about recruiting.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nobody_Important on November 19, 2012, 00:21:29
Not 100% sure if this is the right place to ask this, but bear with me, everybody.

For the past year or so i've been seriously considering joining the Canadian Forces. I'm sure you've all heard the "It looks like the life for me." explanation before, so i'll skip over my reasons and move straight onto the questions i'd like to ask all of you.

I briefly wondered about joining the Regular Force as a NCM, but decided that the reserves (Calgary Highlanders to be exact) would be a better place for me seeing as i'm not fully sure if i'd want to get into the Regular Force right off the bat. I just have a few questions about the reserves in general i'd like to ask all of you.

1. Is it possible to live off base if I apply and get accepted into the reserves?

2. Am I required to stick to weekend training, or can I train throughout the week and complete BMQ quicker?

3. Do I have to wear a uniform 24/7 if I live off base?

4. What are my chances of switching into the Regular Force after completing BMQ, Soldier Qualification, and Infantry Training (I've forgotten the name. BIQ?)

Anyway, if anyone could answer my questions, i'd be very appreciative.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brihard on November 19, 2012, 00:33:57
Not 100% sure if this is the right place to ask this, but bear with me, everybody.

For the past year or so i've been seriously considering joining the Canadian Forces. I'm sure you've all heard the "It looks like the life for me." explanation before, so i'll skip over my reasons and move straight onto the questions i'd like to ask all of you.

I briefly wondered about joining the Regular Force as a NCM, but decided that the reserves (Calgary Highlanders to be exact) would be a better place for me seeing as i'm not fully sure if i'd want to get into the Regular Force right off the bat. I just have a few questions about the reserves in general i'd like to ask all of you.

1. Is it possible to live off base if I apply and get accepted into the reserves?

2. Am I required to stick to weekend training, or can I train throughout the week and complete BMQ quicker?

3. Do I have to wear a uniform 24/7 if I live off base?

4. What are my chances of switching into the Regular Force after completing BMQ, Soldier Qualification, and Infantry Training (I've forgotten the name. BIQ?)

Anyway, if anyone could answer my questions, i'd be very appreciative.

I'll field these. I'm reserve infantry for most of a decade. Currently working full time, but I've done lots of part time too.

1. As a part time reservist there is no 'living on base'. Reservists are almost all people with ordinary civilian lives. Most are students, some professionals. A small proportion live off the reserves through combinations of short term taskings and casual work, and longer term full time taskings and courses when they come up. The actual time commitment for a trained reservist averages 3 hours a week on an evening, and one weekend a month for a training exercise during the months of Sept - Apr. You will live 'on base' when attending full time training, or if you have chosen to volunteer for employment of some sort or another at a base (e.g., providing support for a course that's running, etc).

2. Reservists almost always do a part time weekend BMQ these days. Recent course schedules I've looked at are usually 11 or 12 weekends over the course of 5 or 6 months. Some bases do full time reserve BMQs in May or June, but that's never a given. Subsequent to BMQ, if you went infantry you would have a two-module course called DP1 (developmental period 1) Infantry. The first mod is usually done full time for a month but MAY be done the same 11-12 weekends format. The second mod is always full time. In actuality you are very likely to get a two month full time compelte DP1 mods 1 and 2 both. Those are almost exclusively int he summer.

3. God no. Soldiers wear uniforms at work (most of the time we work relatively normal hours) and when at official functions and on some official travel. As a reservist you'll be wearing your uniform for 4 or 5 hours a week, unless you pick up extra casual taskings or courses. Soldiers have lives outside of work too. We come home, uniform comes off, and we carry on with our evening / weekend.

4. These days- not so hot. Getting into regular force infantry is hard, and a lot of guys with considerably more experience are trying to transfer in. It's by no means impossible, but these days it's not likely or easy.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nobody_Important on November 19, 2012, 00:52:02

4. These days- not so hot. Getting into regular force infantry is hard, and a lot of guys with considerably more experience are trying to transfer in. It's by no means impossible, but these days it's not likely or easy.

Would it be a smarter move to think about a different occupation? Say one that's in demand? I've also been looking at Combat Engineer, Ammunition Technician, or perhaps something in the intelligence department.

On a totally unrelated note, I see that the chances of me getting accepted are slim to none because of my peanut allergy and asthma (Although my doctor said my asthma isn't a problem anymore and i'm going to see an allergist because I haven't had a reaction in over ten years)

Also, forgive my total ineptness at figuring out how to use this website.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on November 19, 2012, 01:21:05
On a totally unrelated note, I see that the chances of me getting accepted are slim to none because of my peanut allergy and asthma (Although my doctor said my asthma isn't a problem anymore and i'm going to see an allergist because I haven't had a reaction in over ten years)

Some discussions of allergies and asthma you may find helpful.

Allergies in the CF 
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,12898.0/nowap.html
8 pages

Peanut allergy 
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=72342.0

Peanut allergies are ruining my life.
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=87882.0

Unreactive peanut allergy - appeal?
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=81097.0

Asthma & the CF (merged thread)
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,1567.0/nowap.html
14 pages

Recruiting Success Story (asthma related)
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=54871.0

My (ongoing) Adventure .... re: asthma 
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,34551.0/nowap.html

Light Asthma and CF ?! 
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=94661.0

Asthma...Situation 
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=52013.0





Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Eowyn on November 19, 2012, 16:20:35
Would it be a smarter move to think about a different occupation? Say one that's in demand? I've also been looking at Combat Engineer, Ammunition Technician, or perhaps something in the intelligence department.

FYI, Ammunition Technician is not a PRes trade.  Although Int Op is a PRes trade, they do not have of a presence in Calgary.  You would be looking at 6 Int Coy in Western Canada.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brihard on November 20, 2012, 00:42:21
I need to make a correction on my original reply. I stated incorrectly that 'part time reservists living on base just doesn't happen'. I've since been told that there are actually some bases with enough base housing that Cl A reservists have been able to get spots in base housing at the bottom of the priority list.

So, I stand corrected. But you will not be made to stay in military quarters except in certain instances of being on courses or takings that necessitate it.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nobody_Important on November 20, 2012, 22:31:25
I've since been told that there are actually some bases with enough base housing that Cl A reservists have been able to get spots in base housing at the bottom of the priority list.

So, I stand corrected. But you will not be made to stay in military quarters except in certain instances of being on courses or takings that necessitate it.

Cl A reservists? Hate to be such a rookie, but what does Cl A mean? Class A?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: dangerboy on November 20, 2012, 22:32:36
That is what it means, Cl A is Class A.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: dapaterson on November 20, 2012, 22:48:36
Reserve classes of service, simplified:


Class A = part time

Class B = full time for 14 days or longer

Class C = full time, for operational reasons (ice storm, floods, deployed for an overseas operation)

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nobody_Important on November 21, 2012, 00:34:03
So, hypothetically, if I was accepted into the reserves I could live off base? Would I be paying to do so? I've heard that there is rent to be paid, but i'm not quite sure whether that's fact or fiction.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Robert0288 on November 21, 2012, 00:39:42
I have a friend who lives on base as a class A reservist and does pay rent.  However living on base as class A, by everything I've heard, is extremely rare (and in his case special circumstance).  I would not count on any housing to be available.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nobody_Important on November 21, 2012, 00:52:44
I see. Well, it's worth seeing about. I'm seeing a recruiter this friday and hope to clear up some stuff. What special circumstances are we talking about? If that isn't too personal, that is.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: C.G.R on November 21, 2012, 01:12:52
If you are a reservist it is 99% likely you will live exactly where you do now, pay the same bills as you do now. The only thing that will change is one night a week will be dedicated to the CF and every now and then you will run around in a forest for a weekend.

I am thinking you are reading a lot of information that generally applies to the regular force (full time).
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Nobody_Important on November 21, 2012, 01:39:12
Sounds like the reserves are far more relaxed than full time. What do you mean by running around in a forest for a weekend? War games or something like that?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Eowyn on November 21, 2012, 12:22:59
As you want to join the Calgary Highlanders, I am going to assume that you live in Calgary.  There is not a base in Calgary, so you will not be living on base.  If you do a weekend BMQ, you will be sleeping at Mewata Armouries.

You could in the outdoors on weekends during a field training exercise.  There you practise the skills you learned in the classroom in a more realistic setting.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Bzzliteyr on November 21, 2012, 12:56:04
To add to the "running around in a forest" point:

This past weekend, the Calgary Highlanders went on exercise (what we call a training event ) in Wainwright Alberta and enhanced their shooting skills.  Another weekend mightr be dedicated to field skills (tent installations, trench digging, camouflage and concealment, map and compass, etc).

As you are looking to join the army, you will most likely do army training to remain current after you have done your courses to be qualified in the trade you choose.

Reservists in Canada are different from reservists in other countries.  Do not mix the two up.  I would definitely recommend you not looking at the reserves as a full time job prospect.  It can be used to supplement what you do during the week.  If you are interested in the full time military, apply and join the regular forces, shold you pass the recruiting stages.

Write questions down and have them ready for when you do get to the recruiting center.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Waters81 on March 21, 2013, 16:36:38
Here is a question that I have asked many times in recent weeks and have received as many answers.

 I am a recent graduate of the regular force BMQ course. I graduated January. 31st of this year but due to health issues with my fiance I was unable to continue on to my SQ in Wainwright and was released (4C) from the forces on February.14th. As I explained to my instructors I was planning on joining the reserves when I got back to Toronto (No one told me that I could have transferred into the reserves from there until it was too late, so lets not get into that). Last night I went down to speak with someone at the unit I wish to enrol with but was told that the 14 weeks of BMQ that I had just completed are no longer valid and that I would have to join the sup-res and redo my BMQ. Can anyone confirm as to whether or not this is at all accurate?

Responses are much appreciated

Cheers
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: NFLD Sapper on March 21, 2013, 16:54:51
IIRC in order to get on the Supp List you must be DP1 complete (BMQ+SQ+Trades)......
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MikeL on March 21, 2013, 17:17:55
If you are a released member and wish to join the Primary Reserve I don't know why they would tell you to join the Supplementary Reserves.  Also,  if you completed Reg Force BMQ recently I would think a PLAR done during the recruiting process would grant you the BMQ qualification/recruit school by pass unless there is a OFP issue?

Try talking to the unit recruiter  again and/or clerks to confirm.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Waters81 on March 21, 2013, 17:29:45
Exactly, and these are my questions. I tried to contact CFRD Toronto ask someone there but no one answered and I've always received great help from this site in the past.


Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DAA on March 21, 2013, 17:48:59
Because you did NOT reach the OFP (ie; finished QL3), your BMQ should be valid for the same amount of time after your release date, as you actually served.  So if you completed and graduated from BMQ and served say 8 months total time in the CF Reg F, your BMQ would be valid for 8 months from the date of release.
I will check the Matrix in the morning just to confirm.

Nevertheless, you need to submit an application to the CF, just like anyone else inorder to join the Reserves.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Waters81 on March 21, 2013, 17:53:59
I'm all over it like white on rice.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DAA on March 22, 2013, 11:34:18
If you served for "less than 12 months" in the Regular Force, the BMQ qualification is valid for 24 months from the date of release.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MPHopeful13 on November 25, 2013, 22:56:36
Hi all:
I apologize in advance if this question has already been asked, but after about 3 hrs of digging through Google search results, I decided to throw in the towel and turn to you guys. First off, a little bit about myself. My goal in the CF is to go into a combat arms trade in the reserves (probably arty or armoured recce) with the 36 Canadian Brigade Group, graduate from HS, complete a police foundations degree, then a university degree (something like criminology or psychology) and CT to the Reg Force military police trade. My questions are as follows: can you still join the reserves at age 16? If so, can you apply (I know that you can't be sworn in until all prerequisites are met) while still in grade 10? Or do you have to wait until you have finished grade 10 to even begin the application process? I ask about the minimum age because this CANFORGEN states that as long as you are a full-time student, which I would be, you can join the PRes, -
CANFORGEN 038/11 CMP 019/11 171252Z FEB 11
AMENDMENT TO MINIMUM ENROLMENT AGE DAOD 5002-1
UNCLASSIFIED


REF: DAOD 5002-1 ENROLMENT



THE PURPOSE OF THIS MESSAGE IS TO AMEND THE POLICY AT REF REGARDING THE MINIMUM AGES FOR ENROLMENT IN THE CF. THIS AMENDMENT BROADENS THE SELECTION OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS UNDER WHICH AN APPLICANT MAY BE ENROLLED AT AGE 16. REF WILL BE MODIFIED IN DUE COURSE


THE MINIMUM AGE TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR ENROLMENT VARIES. TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR ENROLMENT IN THE REGULAR FORCE, AN APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE REACHED:


AGE 16, IF THE APPLICANT IS SELECTED FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT A ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE OR CIVILIAN UNIVERSITY OR COLLEGE, OR


AGE 17 IN ALL OTHER CASES


IN THE RESERVE FORCE, AN APPLICANT MUST BE:


AGE 18, IF THE APPLICANT ENROLS IN THE COATS OR CANADIAN RANGERS


AGE 16, IF THE APPLICANT IS SELECTED FOR EDUCATION AND TRAINING AT A ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE OR OTHERWISE MAINTAINS FULL-TIME STUDENT STATUS UNTIL AGE 17


AGE 17 IN ANY OTHER CASE


THE MINIMUM AGE FOR ENROLMENT IN THE SPECIAL FORCE IS AGE 17


THE CONSENT OF A CUSTODIAL PARENT OR LEGAL GUARDIAN IS REQUIRED FOR THE ENROLMENT OF AN APPLICANT WHO IS UNDER THE AGE OF 18 ON THE DAY OF ENROLMENT


CDA HAS BEEN REQUESTED TO UNDERTAKE A REVIEW OF THE HIGH SCHOOL CO-OP INITIATIVE FOR P RES CANDIDATES TO ENSURE IT MEETS THE INTENT OF THIS POLICY AMENDMENT


DGMP/DHRD WILL CONDUCT A REVIEW OF THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA FOR RESERVE SUMMER PROGRAMS, BLACK BEAR, RAVEN AND BOLD EAGLE, TO ENSURE THAT THEY REMAIN COMPLIANT WITH THIS POLICY


SIGNED BY RADM A. SMITH, CMP

while this excerpt from forces.ca says that you must be 17 -

To apply to the Canadian Forces, you must:
Be a Canadian Citizen.
Be 17 years of age, with parental consent, or older, except:
Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applications must be 16 or older.

Thanks in advance for any clarity you may be able to bring up.

Edit: For clarity.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PrairieThunder on November 25, 2013, 23:11:34
You must be 17 with parental consent unless you're applying to an Educational Program (ROTP at RMC for example) or a full-time student.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on November 25, 2013, 23:35:50
can you still join the reserves at age 16?

http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,107994.msg1182512.html#msg1182512
See Reply #2 and #3.
"Reserve Force - 16 years of age, with parental consent, provided you are currently attending school full-time."
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DarkInfantry232 on November 25, 2013, 23:55:50
17 is for Reg force with parental consent. You can join the reserves at the age of 16 with parental consent but must be enrolled in a full-time school until the age of 17 I believe.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MPHopeful13 on November 26, 2013, 12:21:33
Thanks everyone for your answers. Can't wait to turn 16 and get the ball rolling. One last thing, do you guys know if I have to wait until I finish grade 10 to apply, or can I apply while still in grade 10? Ex: I turn 16 in November 2014, and finish grade 10 in June 2015. Can I apply in Nov/14 or do I have to wait until June (probably closer to July)/15?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ModlrMike on November 26, 2013, 22:23:11
Quote
Who can apply:
 
To apply to the Canadian Forces, you must:

    Be a Canadian Citizen.
    Be 17 years of age, with parental consent, or older, except:
       - Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applications must be 16 or older.
    Have completed at least Grade 10 or Secondaire IV (in Quebec).
        Certain entry programs and occupations require higher levels of education.
 

Taken directly from the forces.ca website. Seems pretty unequivocal to me.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Dragonborn on November 26, 2013, 22:36:27
Yes you can, I was 16 when I started BMQ which was recently. I just turned 17!
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on November 26, 2013, 22:39:43
16 years old and want to join the CF 
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=13208.0

7 pages.

I'm 16 and I want to join the CF
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,27638.0.html

6 pages.
 
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ModlrMike on November 26, 2013, 23:38:52
Yes you can, I was 16 when I started BMQ which was recently. I just turned 17!

No, he can not. Read the extract from the CF Recruiting website: he has not completed grade 10.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brihard on November 27, 2013, 00:55:34
I was a PRes recruiter until last April. You cannot apply until you have completed grade ten. You must also meet one of the two age requirements: either 17 years old, or 16 AND a full time student (including high school).

To my knowledge this standard has not changed.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Ice97 on November 27, 2013, 02:08:21
Thanks everyone for your answers. Can't wait to turn 16 and get the ball rolling. One last thing, do you guys know if I have to wait until I finish grade 10 to apply, or can I apply while still in grade 10? Ex: I turn 16 in November 2014, and finish grade 10 in June 2015. Can I apply in Nov/14 or do I have to wait until June (probably closer to July)/15?

Yeah....you're looking at atleast 1 1/2 years before you can even apply....so more then 2 years most likely before you can wear the uniform....if you are still interested at that point.  2 years is a long time when you're a teen in high school.

Yes you can, I was 16 when I started BMQ which was recently. I just turned 17!

Obviously had Gr 10 or they wouldn't be in the Military.  If you're born late in the year (like I was) then you'll have Gr 10 completed when you're 15.  You have to wait until you're 16 because I believe that's the age of consent....or something like that
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MPHopeful13 on November 27, 2013, 07:41:47
Thanks again to everyone for the insight. As much as this is a slight bump in the road, I'll just take it all in stride, using the next year and a half to get in awesome shape, bring down my 5k and 10k times (maybe get up to a half marathon? :)), focus on school, volunteering, getting some work experience, etc. At the end of the day, I know what I want to do with my life, and I believe that I will still know when I finish grade 10.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Boschmaniac on March 18, 2014, 19:28:21
Hello,

Earlier today I contacted my local reserve unit via telephone, and I was told to start the process by applying online. Right now I am doing so, however, the trade in which I am applying for is not listed. I am looking to join the SALH, however Armoured Recon/ Armoured soldier is not listed.

So I have three quick questions:

1. Is it listed as something else under military occupations (I am at the stage where I select 3)

2. I am currently attending university, so do I list that as my highest education?

3. Since I am a student, what should I list my entry plan as?

Thanks.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DAA on March 18, 2014, 19:57:56
You need to go back to SALH and speak to them again.  Something may have gotten lost in translation. 

Right off the forces.ca website.......important points are highlighted in yellow, parts in red may not have happened, especially, if you are asking these types of questions.

*** If you are interested in joining the Reserves, your first step is to contact one of your local Reserve units to find out which positions are available.  They will work with you to identify a job, fill in all the required application forms, and advise you through the process
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Boschmaniac on March 19, 2014, 13:55:38
Everything turned out good now just have to wait.

Thanks.

Another question though, what EXACTLY does a reservist do on a typical Wednesday evening in 3 hours? And what sorts of things would they do on the one weekend per month?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: blackberet17 on March 19, 2014, 15:26:31
Your entry plan is up to you. You have the choice of path, Officer or NCM.

If you are successful in your university studies, you can follow the Officer path. Direct Entry (DEO or RESO, I think they changed the acronym) is your Officer path.

I like DAA's points, but I remember filling out all my own paperwork...unless I had questions, and even then sometimes...

I can't tell you EXACTLY what you'll do on a trg night. It depends on what's on the training calendar for the training year. It will vary: theory classes, vehicle prep for an exercise, setup for other events, vehicle maintenance, parade practice...

Weekends will also depend on the intent of the exercise. It could be a mounted or dismounted exercise (with or without vehicles); a stables weekend where all types of kit are cleaned, repaired, setup and torn down; an Individual Battle Test Standard (IBTS) weekend, where you could be attending a mix of classes on a variety of topics and/or doing some hands-on stuff, taking part in a live-fire range, etc.

All this you will learn in due time. Focus on getting the paperwork in, and getting through your Basic Military Qualifications (BMQ) course.

Oh, and actually go down to the SALH armoury, and talk to the recruiter and some of the guys if you can. That'll give you a much clearer idea.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Boschmaniac on March 19, 2014, 15:51:19
Your entry plan is up to you. You have the choice of path, Officer or NCM.

If you are successful in your university studies, you can follow the Officer path. Direct Entry (DEO or RESO, I think they changed the acronym) is your Officer path.

I like DAA's points, but I remember filling out all my own paperwork...unless I had questions, and even then sometimes...

I can't tell you EXACTLY what you'll do on a trg night. It depends on what's on the training calendar for the training year. It will vary: theory classes, vehicle prep for an exercise, setup for other events, vehicle maintenance, parade practice...

Weekends will also depend on the intent of the exercise. It could be a mounted or dismounted exercise (with or without vehicles); a stables weekend where all types of kit are cleaned, repaired, setup and torn down; an Individual Battle Test Standard (IBTS) weekend, where you could be attending a mix of classes on a variety of topics and/or doing some hands-on stuff, taking part in a live-fire range, etc.

All this you will learn in due time. Focus on getting the paperwork in, and getting through your Basic Military Qualifications (BMQ) course.

Oh, and actually go down to the SALH armoury, and talk to the recruiter and some of the guys if you can. That'll give you a much clearer idea.

I was actually 50/50 between joining the SALH or the Loyal Eddies, I decided to go with Infantry because an individual in my class happens to be Infantry while another is a Reserve MP.

It would probably be best if I went to the armoury, but when I talked to the Sgt over the phone he gave me most of the answers I was looking for at the time.

Thanks for the reply
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Teager on March 19, 2014, 16:14:46
I was actually 50/50 between joining the SALH or the Loyal Eddies, I decided to go with Infantry because an individual in my class happens to be Infantry while another is a Reserve MP.

It would probably be best if I went to the armoury, but when I talked to the Sgt over the phone he gave me most of the answers I was looking for at the time.

Thanks for the reply

You should go to the armoury still and go on a parade night and you will be able to see some of the things they do there. The recruiter should be willing to show you around.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: George Wallace on March 19, 2014, 16:24:59
You should go to the armoury still and go on a parade night and you will be able to see some of the things they do there. The recruiter should be willing to show you around.

Excellent advice.  You will have to go to the Armoury sooner or later anyway.  You will have to go for an interview, and be accepted by whatever unit you are trying to join.  They will then give you a letter accepting you, which you will take to the CFRC to start processing your paperwork.  The CFRC will not process anything on people who want to join the Reserves until such time that a Reserve unit accepts them.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Eric17 on August 25, 2015, 22:23:22
On the CF site it says (Below) but some people say 17 with parental consent. Some others says 16 for ROTP. So I am wondering if I can  really apply for Pres when I turn 16 years old, and completed grade 10? Also where do Pres recruits do their BMQ? its for the interview question that the counselor will ask. In order to apply I have to send my transcript to the force do I have to send my provincial exam score too? What are the chances of joining the reserve with a grade 10 education? Do I need both my parent's consent? my parents are divorced and don't live in the same country ;( If I got accepted, and going for my BMQ, am I going to miss a lot of school? I know I can ask all this question at the recruiting center, but they are closed now ;(

To apply to the Forces, you must:

Be a Canadian Citizen.
Be 17 years of age, with parental consent, or older, except:
Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applications must be 16 or older.
Reserve Force - Applicants may be 16 years of age if they are also enrolled as a full-time high school student.
Have completed at least Grade 10 or Secondaire IV (in Quebec).
Certain entry programs and occupations require higher levels of education.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: runormal on August 25, 2015, 23:01:06
For the age question I believe it is now 16 again, but I'm not 100% sure.


Also where do Pres recruits do their BMQ?
Somewhere within the geographical area, it could be done at the unit amouries, a Candian Forces base/training center (depending on proximity). Quite honestly I wouldn't stress too much about this as there are multiple locations where it could be held depending on where you live and what facilities are available for you. You could ask the unit that you apply to as you need to get a letter from them prior to initiate the application process.

 In order to apply I have to send my transcript to the force do I have to send my provincial exam score too?
Ask the CFRC however I suspect just the grade 10 transcripts though.

What are the chances of joining the reserve with a grade 10 education?
There is no way to know until you apply, but I know many people who got in with just grade 10, I wouldn't worry about it. Though some trades require grade 12, but these are of a more technical nature.

Do I need both my parent's consent? my parents are divorced and don't live in the same country ;(
Just one (my parents are divorced as well  >:D)

If I got accepted, and going for my BMQ, am I going to miss a lot of school?
There are full time basics run throughout the summer and part time basics run on the weekend during the school year. Either way you shouldn't miss any school, though some students find it challenging to balance their studies (i.e marks drop) as you will be gone from Friday night to Sunday Evening roughly two times a month. However if you do the school work before you go away you won't have a problem. In fact my highest marks in University were when I was doing my basic as I knew I couldn't waste any time.

Good Luck
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Eric17 on August 25, 2015, 23:54:52
For the age question I believe it is now 16 again, but I'm not 100% sure.


Also where do Pres recruits do their BMQ?
Somewhere within the geographical area, it could be done at the unit amouries, a Candian Forces base/training center (depending on proximity). Quite honestly I wouldn't stress too much about this as there are multiple locations where it could be held depending on where you live and what facilities are available for you. You could ask the unit that you apply to as you need to get a letter from them prior to initiate the application process.

 In order to apply I have to send my transcript to the force do I have to send my provincial exam score too?
Ask the CFRC however I suspect just the grade 10 transcripts though.

What are the chances of joining the reserve with a grade 10 education?
There is no way to know until you apply, but I know many people who got in with just grade 10, I wouldn't worry about it. Though some trades require grade 12, but these are of a more technical nature.

Do I need both my parent's consent? my parents are divorced and don't live in the same country ;(
Just one (my parents are divorced as well  >:D)

If I got accepted, and going for my BMQ, am I going to miss a lot of school?
There are full time basics run throughout the summer and part time basics run on the weekend during the school year. Either way you shouldn't miss any school, though some students find it challenging to balance their studies (i.e marks drop) as you will be gone from Friday night to Sunday Evening roughly two times a month. However if you do the school work before you go away you won't have a problem. In fact my highest marks in University were when I was doing my basic as I knew I couldn't waste any time.

Good Luck
Thank you so much for answering my question :) I appreciate your help man
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DAA on August 26, 2015, 10:38:58
To apply to the Forces, you must:

Be a Canadian Citizen.
Be 17 years of age, with parental consent, or older, except:
Regular Officer Training Plan – Junior applications must be 16 or older.
Reserve Force - Applicants may be 16 years of age if they are also enrolled as a full-time high school student.
Have completed at least Grade 10 or Secondaire IV (in Quebec).
Certain entry programs and occupations require higher levels of education.

You answered your own question with regards to minimum age and education.      :)

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on August 26, 2015, 14:04:08
So I am wondering if I can  really apply for Pres when I turn 16 years old, and completed grade 10?

Age Limits to Join 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,12904.750.html
31 pages.

Joining the reserves at 16 yrs old?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=104833.0

Can I join the primary reserves?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=103148.0
"I am 16 years old and am in grade 11 in Toronto."

able to join the military at the age of 16?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=16735.0

Can I join the PRes?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=113066.0
"can you still join the reserves at age 16?"

Planning on Joining the Reserves
http://forums.army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,107994.msg1182512.html#msg1182512
"I'm at the minimum age, 16"

This question has been asked, answered and discussed many times.

As always, go by the Recruiting website.





Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: George Wallace on August 26, 2015, 14:06:49
marionmike

How many silver spoons have been served now?     >:D
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: maaroc on August 31, 2015, 12:55:28

Hi everyone,

I am in the process of applying to the Reserves in the Intelligence Operator trade.  I have been researching the training process but was looking to have some clarity regarding time commitment as I have a civy job and a family.

I understand BMQ can be done part-time, on the weekends but what training modules (specifically for Int Op) are required after BMQ? I can do full-time training if necessary however, I would like to do as much, or all, of the training part-time, if possible.

Can BMQL and trades training be done part-time or on weekends?  If so what does the part-time module look like?  If not, what is the time commitment for all aspects of the BMQL and trade training (QL5A)? 

I am trying to get a rough picture of the training process for becoming a Reserve Int Op.  Any information would be greatly appreciated!

 
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: BinRat55 on August 31, 2015, 13:02:05

I am trying to get a rough picture of the training process for becoming a Reserve Int Op.  Any information would be greatly appreciated!

 

Many Int Ops I know work very diligently at "searching" for info. They "search" high and low, "search" everywhere they can. That's what makes them good Int Operators...

Get my drift?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: maaroc on August 31, 2015, 13:03:15
Noted.  Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brasidas on September 05, 2015, 12:49:39
Have you considered going in to the armoury and discussing training with personnel there?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: faivious on September 05, 2015, 22:18:07
Hi everyone,

I am in the process of applying to the Reserves in the Intelligence Operator trade.  I have been researching the training process but was looking to have some clarity regarding time commitment as I have a civy job and a family.

I understand BMQ can be done part-time, on the weekends but what training modules (specifically for Int Op) are required after BMQ? I can do full-time training if necessary however, I would like to do as much, or all, of the training part-time, if possible.

Can BMQL and trades training be done part-time or on weekends?  If so what does the part-time module look like?  If not, what is the time commitment for all aspects of the BMQL and trade training (QL5A)? 

I am trying to get a rough picture of the training process for becoming a Reserve Int Op.  Any information would be greatly appreciated!

 

Hello.
It differs year to year, and your location.
Sometimes BMQ (L) may be held on weekends, sometimes it may not..Same goes for your Trade Qualification.

Correct me if I'm wrong & don't quote me on this... but part-time BMQ (L) or Trade Qualifications, if even held at all in the present year would be done Friday night to Sunday night, over a stretch of months.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: BinRat55 on September 07, 2015, 13:22:33
Hello.
It differs year to year, and your location.
Sometimes BMQ (L) may be held on weekends, sometimes it may not..Same goes for your Trade Qualification.

Correct me if I'm wrong & don't quote me on this... but part-time BMQ (L) or Trade Qualifications, if even held at all in the present year would be done Friday night to Sunday night, over a stretch of months.

Try not to confuse BMQ with BMQ(L)... BMQ is Basic Training and BMQ(L) is the old SQ (Soldier Qualification) usually completed after BMQ by those wearing a land DEU.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: faivious on September 07, 2015, 13:36:57
He was asking what the timings were regarding BMQ (L), which was what I provided.
What did you mean by don't mix it up, I didn't understand  ???
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: BinRat55 on September 07, 2015, 13:52:04
He was asking what the timings were regarding BMQ (L), which was what I provided.
What did you mean by don't mix it up, I didn't understand  ???

Apparently I meant not to mix it up like I just did! My bad... You are correct, maaroc was asking about BMQ(L). I am used to people thinking BMQ and BMQ(L) are one and the same...

That being said, I don't think you can do a reserve trades training (QL3 / 5) over the course of weekends anymore. Ours in Supply is offered during the summer to compensate for younger members still in school.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: LunchMeat on September 07, 2015, 16:41:58
BMQ and BMQL can be done full or part time.

Your occupational training will be conducted full time, during the summer, in Kingston. If I remember correctly, Int Op QL3 is 9 weeks.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: George Wallace on September 07, 2015, 16:56:02
There is NO QL 3 Int Op course. 

As it is early in the members career, not having even started, they can wait until they are actually finished BMQ (L) and have their unit give them the info on the QL 5 INT OP course; as it is constantly being revamped.  It may be in Kingston.  It may not.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Gunshark on September 16, 2015, 15:28:06
I'm applying out of Toronto to the Army Reserve (Combat Engineer) and last I heard, it's possible to do BMQ part-time, however BMQ(L) has to be full-time (2 weeks), taken at the end of BMQ. The occupational training is then different for every trade. Combat Engineers, for example, require 12 weeks or so of training in Gagetown, NB, which can only be done full-time. However, I was told it can be broken down into 2 modules and be done over 2 years. As a general rule of thumb, I believe the unit wants you to complete training as soon as possible, however they also understand your civilian commitments and let you break some of the training up between 2-3 years. As long as it doesn't drag on forever, otherwise you become a liability. It is best to speak with the local unit to get full details. Call/visit a local armoury.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: StitchJones on October 28, 2015, 14:32:22
Hello, okay I have a question.
Is it possible to get into the reserves, while still in high school and do both? I would like to complete high school, but I also want to do reserves. So just wondering if doing both at the same time is possible.  ???
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on October 28, 2015, 14:33:57
Hello, okay I have a question.
Is it possible to get into the reserves, while still in high school and do both? I would like to complete high school, but I also want to do reserves. So just wondering if doing both at the same time is possible.  ???

Yes.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DAA on October 28, 2015, 14:34:51
Yes you can.   If you are interested in joining the Reserves, you need to contact a Reserve Unit in your local area.

http://www.forces.ca/en/centres/findarecruiter-110
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: fishtooth87 on November 15, 2015, 23:24:23
I did a search on this forum but when typing in reserves, I get all kinds of posts that are no help.

I have always wanted to join the military, I figured a good start would be the reserves. Main reason being, I could not afford the rent and bills we have along with raising a family in Alberta. So for now, reserves will be the only option.

My main question is, When in the reserves to my understanding training is 1, maybe 2 nights a week along with 1 weekend a month.

How long does it take for someone in the reserves to get trained up enough to the point that if there was a conflict and the reserves had a chance to be sent out, that a guy could actually go?

Is there options to train more than 1 day a week and put in more time?

I do not want to go about this half assed. If I can put as much time in as I can along with working my normal job. Than I will. If I could afford to join full time, than I would but for now that is just not an option.

I really appreciate any input the experienced members of this forum will have

thanks
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on November 16, 2015, 01:19:39
This may help,

Reserves and Deployment 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=102409.0

How Soon After Enrollement Can You Be Deployed Overseas 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,27991.0/nowap.html
"O.K. so now I'm in the propcess of being accepted into the Reserves..."

Reserve Call Outs/Employment Full Time 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,28811.0/nowap.html
4 pages.


Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: fishtooth on November 16, 2015, 11:07:50
Thanks for the links. One thing I could not find is How long does it take for a reserve memeber to get trained to the point they can volunteer to be deployed?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Gunshark on November 16, 2015, 11:41:03
Thanks for the links. One thing I could not find is How long does it take for a reserve memeber to get trained to the point they can volunteer to be deployed?

Do you know what trade or unit you'd like to join? If not, contact your local recruiting centre so they can give you contact information for it. Then get a tour at the unit on their parade night and chat with the recruiter there, he/she should be able to answer these questions. Training duration depends on the trade and on the schedule. Some people get their training done quicker because they have time and the training schedule is on their side. Other people break their training down into modules (if that option is available) to help them meet their civilian job commitments as well. The point is, training can be done sooner or later, dependent on many factors. That's why it's best to talk directly with the recruiter for the unit you're interested in (or with the brigade recruiter, someone responsible for recruitment for several units in your area). Then you'll have a better idea about how you can work around your civilian job to get the training done.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on November 16, 2015, 12:11:16
 :goodpost:

One thing I could not find is How long does it take for a reserve memeber to get trained to the point they can volunteer to be deployed?

Regarding your civilian job, you may wish to read this,

Reservists Job Protection Superthread 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=2552.0

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ThisIsMatt on January 05, 2016, 04:20:03
So since i was young, i have wanted to be in the army and now that im at the age of 20 and i have matured, i feel the time is now. I am wondering what are some essintals needed for joining the Canadian Reserves on what is needed.

-like for example is i will loose some weight but i dont already have a good bit of strength and workable cardio.

-Glasses, i wear them and will they discrougage the recruiter? i am near sited.

-upon joining the reserves will i need Restricted/non restricted and core first aid all completed? (also which first aid is needed)
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on January 05, 2016, 04:52:20
Welcome to Army.ca.

Please read my most recent post here: http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,121454.msg1409545.html#msg1409545

All of your questions have been asked and answered here before. Start reading older threads and using the Search Function. Should you have any questions remaining after that, we will be happy to answer them for you.

This is now locked until after you have done so.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: TheSnake on January 26, 2016, 23:34:09
I am not quite sure if I can make it for this summer training ( shouldn't have anything holding me back next one though ) just wondering if I where better for me do it now to get a spot ( assuming its not to late?) and inform someone in a week or so prior if something is stopping me from attending? or sign up after?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: LunchMeat on January 27, 2016, 00:34:21
There's no issue with you applying and being sworn in now, you can parade with your unit and gain some basic drill, dress, and deportment skills. I opted out of full time summer training because I had just started a new job and couldn't get the time off for such a large block.

Your unit will ask you when and if you're available, and will nominate you for a course accordingly.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: TheSnake on January 27, 2016, 00:38:50
This is bit of a relief but is this course only during summer or will there be an equal course that happens at other parts of the year?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: LunchMeat on January 27, 2016, 00:58:38
Basic Military Qualification (BMQ) and BMQ-Land are offered both full time during the summer and on a part time basis during the winter at your local armoury.

Your trade Qualification course will likely only be available full time over the summer, but that is only after you have done your Basic courses and Driver training.

During the local training year (Sept-June), you will parade (train) one night a weekend and one weekend a month. You will do various things like drill, weapon skills, map and compass etc.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Gunshark on January 27, 2016, 09:56:20
Application process normally takes quite a bit of time. If this is something you want, get in touch with the Reserve unit you want to join, and then go talk to the recruiter at the unit to get information on all requirements and to find out when the BMQ courses are. Then go through the (lengthy) application process with the local recruiting centre. With some luck, if you apply now, you may be able to start a part-time BMQ in the fall. Moral to take away from this: Talk to recruiter at the unit of your interest; start application process now.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Ayrsayle on January 31, 2016, 19:05:45
Application process normally takes quite a bit of time. If this is something you want, get in touch with the Reserve unit you want to join, and then go talk to the recruiter at the unit to get information on all requirements and to find out when the BMQ courses are. Then go through the (lengthy) application process with the local recruiting centre. With some luck, if you apply now, you may be able to start a part-time BMQ in the fall. Moral to take away from this: Talk to recruiter at the unit of your interest; start application process now.

As someone on the other side of the application process - Absolutely start the process as soon as you are committed to being a reservist and what that entails.  Suprisingly, we have lots of people who apply to the Unit who, after making it through the lengthy application process, decide a few months in that they are no longer interested.  There is a lot of paperwork and administration that goes into recruiting individuals who then create a lot of paperwork as they release from the CAF. Paperwork that you as a new recruit likely don't see, but it influences how slow (or fast) the process is for the next guy or girl behind you.

Please don't toss in your paperwork if you aren't ready for the commitment that is expected of being a soldier (even a part time one!).
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brasidas on February 01, 2016, 13:20:03
As someone on the other side of the application process - Absolutely start the process as soon as you are committed to being a reservist and what that entails.  Suprisingly, we have lots of people who apply to the Unit who, after making it through the lengthy application process, decide a few months in that they are no longer interested.  There is a lot of paperwork and administration that goes into recruiting individuals who then create a lot of paperwork as they release from the CAF. Paperwork that you as a new recruit likely don't see, but it influences how slow (or fast) the process is for the next guy or girl behind you.

Please don't toss in your paperwork if you aren't ready for the commitment that is expected of being a soldier (even a part time one!).

On the flip side of that, there's nothing inherently wrong with changing your mind after a long wait. Life happens, things change over the course of a couple years. In your application and your time in the reserve, try to avoid planning things like weddings around army commitments. Dates and taskings change, and you don't need to set yourself up to be bitter. Get enrolled and go on courses and taskings when and if it works for you. Keep it relaxed and fun.

There are many people waiting upwards of a year to be a class A reservist. Touch base with your unit, keep on top of your file on the CFRC side, and keep in touch. Best of luck to those applying.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: RocketRichard on February 01, 2016, 13:38:51

On the flip side of that, there's nothing inherently wrong with changing your mind after a long wait. Life happens, things change over the course of a couple years. In your application and your time in the reserve, try to avoid planning things like weddings around army commitments. Dates and taskings change, and you don't need to set yourself up to be bitter. Get enrolled and go on courses and taskings when and if it works for you. Keep it relaxed and fun.

There are many people waiting upwards of a year to be a class A reservist. Touch base with your unit, keep on top of your file on the CFRC side, and keep in touch. Best of luck to those applying.

Concur with both comments. If your intent at the start of the application process is a part time career as a reservist that is honourable. A year long or more wait time for a full time student or someone with a full time job can most definitely change the applicant's mind and/or their circumstances may change.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MaxZ on February 17, 2016, 15:49:32
Hi,

I am a first year University of Waterloo student looking to join the reserves as an infantry officer. There are two regiments nearby to my school (the Elgins and the Royal Highland Fusiliers) however I will be spending (at least my first) summer with my parents in Toronto and not in Waterloo.

Is it possible to join a regiment in Toronto and serve all of my time in the summers? Or is the one night a week, one weekend a month year round a hard requirement? I am willing and would love to spend summers training in and working with the army.

I know for sure that I will not be able to spend this summer in Waterloo, but I have signed a lease on a Waterloo place starting in the fall, and thus will be able to spend further summers there. Would it be possible to do BMQ this summer with a Toronto regiment and continue my career in a Waterloo region regiment?

Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my questions,

Max
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on February 17, 2016, 16:15:41
Reserve units are generally inactive during the summer. Pers are either on full-time courses, supporting full-time courses or other activities, or off. Pick a unit where you are going to school.

I'll move this to a more appropriate thread when I have some time (or when mariomike tells me which one to go with), as it is not appropriate for this one, and then others can chime in and offer advice.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on February 17, 2016, 18:16:39
Pick a unit where you are going to school.

I'll move this to a more appropriate thread when I have some time (or when mariomike tells me which one to go with), as it is not appropriate for this one, and then others can chime in and offer advice.

I would just lock it.

Where will I serve?
"Reservists train and work close to home."
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/careeroptions-123#tab3

I have signed a lease on a Waterloo place starting in the fall, and thus will be able to spend further summers there.


Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on February 17, 2016, 19:28:00
Thank-you, mariomike.

Merged.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: runormal on February 17, 2016, 20:29:25
I did exactly this a few years back and it isn't an issue at all.

Loachman is right pick a unit in Waterloo don't waste anyone's with attach or transfer postings (which would happen if you applied for a unit that was based in Toronto).

All you have to do is call/email the unit and I say hi, I currently live in Toronto but I will be studying in Waterloo as of Sept 2016 and I am/not available for summer employment should it arise. . I want to join trade X. Then they will tell you no problem. You will likely have to travel to Waterloo (especially because you are applying as an officer) to do an interview/information session. The unit will then give you a letter, You then bring said letter to CFRC Toronto and they process your application as normal. Once your file is complete or September is looming closely tell CFRC Toronto to Transfer it CFRC Kitchener/Waterloo (not sure which it is but they will tell you) and the unit will either swear you in or you continue with your application.

Other Points:
- You may get a call (like i did) saying "uhh yeah we have an information session in 3 days we need you to be in City X for 19h. It may or may not happen but it could happen.
- If you chose to go back to Toronto for future summers make sure you tell your unit. Your unit will assume that you are taking the bus to CFB XYZ for the trade course from Waterloo but you need to either make arrangements for a POMV (Personal privately [1] owned military vehicle) approval or see if ops can get you on a bus from Toronto.) Either way the world wont end, but I'd suggest leaving your kit in your apartment should you go back home for future summers and then just take the GO Train to Kitchener and get on the bus with your friends.  (1st 2 summers I went home to my parents place, first summer I paid a buddy all of his meals, a 60 of whiskey and a 24 of beer to drive me the base and got my mom to pick me up when the course ended, the 2nd summer I left my kit in my apt and went back to my parents, when I got the call I got on a train to the city where I was studying and then got on the bus with all my friends form my unit.)
- Likewise if your file is processed and they can load you on a course for this summer make sure they realize (tell them again) that you are in Toronto not Waterloo.

Lastly, make sure INF O is the trade you want to do, transferring trades once you are in the reserves is a pain, and you have much more mobility as a civilian. (Nothing wrong with INF-O, just make sure that it is what you want)

If you have any other questions post here (if i don't reply pm me).

Cheers

Édit [1] : thanks Mario and George
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on February 18, 2016, 00:53:26
Your unit will assume that you are taking the bus to CFB XYZ for the trade course from Waterloo but you need to either make arrangements for a POMV (Personal owned military vehicle) approval or see if ops can get you on a bus from Toronto.)

I thought POMV stood for Privately Owned Motor Vehicle?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: George Wallace on February 18, 2016, 01:00:13
I thought POMV stood for Privately Owned Motor Vehicle?

 [:D

Yes.  Yes it does.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Dab22 on February 19, 2016, 17:59:16
So I just swore in to my reserve unit a week ago, and will probably be going to BMQ this summer as I missed the spring course. Now what I'm wondering is I have applied to some universities in out of province and want to go if I get in. But would still like to stay a part of my unit. Would I be able to parade with another unit during the school year(4 years) and then come back to train with my hometown unit over summer? During my interview, the military career counsellor said not a problem but I feel bad joining my unit and then telling them I that I want to pursue a degree outside of town. Would I be able to get some insight on the process and how to pursue it.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on February 19, 2016, 18:03:50
Would I be able to parade with another unit during the school year(4 years) and then come back to train with my hometown unit over summer?

You may find this discussion of interest,

QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES 
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,16735.0.html
"Is it possible to join a regiment in Toronto and serve all of my time in the summers?"
"Would it be possible to do BMQ this summer with a Toronto regiment and continue my career in a Waterloo region regiment?"
See reply #104 to reply #108.



 

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on February 19, 2016, 18:39:55
And merged again.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: BinRat55 on February 24, 2016, 10:26:14
Lol!!! I know it's just a slip, but it's FUNNY!!!

I'm sorry my privately owned Light Armoured Vehicle is taking up your driveway... Umm... please excuse my Bison - it has gas!!

I'm sorry runnormal.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: MaxZ on February 25, 2016, 15:21:19
I did exactly this a few years back and it isn't an issue at all.

Loachman is right pick a unit in Waterloo don't waste anyone's with attach or transfer postings (which would happen if you applied for a unit that was based in Toronto).

All you have to do is call/email the unit and I say hi, I currently live in Toronto but I will be studying in Waterloo as of Sept 2016 and I am/not available for summer employment should it arise. . I want to join trade X. Then they will tell you no problem. You will likely have to travel to Waterloo (especially because you are applying as an officer) to do an interview/information session. The unit will then give you a letter, You then bring said letter to CFRC Toronto and they process your application as normal. Once your file is complete or September is looming closely tell CFRC Toronto to Transfer it CFRC Kitchener/Waterloo (not sure which it is but they will tell you) and the unit will either swear you in or you continue with your application.

Other Points:
- You may get a call (like i did) saying "uhh yeah we have an information session in 3 days we need you to be in City X for 19h. It may or may not happen but it could happen.
- If you chose to go back to Toronto for future summers make sure you tell your unit. Your unit will assume that you are taking the bus to CFB XYZ for the trade course from Waterloo but you need to either make arrangements for a POMV (Personal privately [1] owned military vehicle) approval or see if ops can get you on a bus from Toronto.) Either way the world wont end, but I'd suggest leaving your kit in your apartment should you go back home for future summers and then just take the GO Train to Kitchener and get on the bus with your friends.  (1st 2 summers I went home to my parents place, first summer I paid a buddy all of his meals, a 60 of whiskey and a 24 of beer to drive me the base and got my mom to pick me up when the course ended, the 2nd summer I left my kit in my apt and went back to my parents, when I got the call I got on a train to the city where I was studying and then got on the bus with all my friends form my unit.)
- Likewise if your file is processed and they can load you on a course for this summer make sure they realize (tell them again) that you are in Toronto not Waterloo.

Lastly, make sure INF O is the trade you want to do, transferring trades once you are in the reserves is a pain, and you have much more mobility as a civilian. (Nothing wrong with INF-O, just make sure that it is what you want)

If you have any other questions post here (if i don't reply pm me).

Cheers

Édit [1] : thanks Mario and George

So I would bring this letter from the Waterloo Regiment to CFRC Toronto, and then do BMQ in Toronto this summer? That would be ideal for me. I am currently in Waterloo because I am in first year university already, but I will only be going back to Toronto for April-August, then I will be back in Waterloo.

Thank you for the help and detailed post, much appreciated.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: runormal on February 25, 2016, 15:59:52
So I would bring this letter from the Waterloo Regiment to CFRC Toronto, and then do BMQ in Toronto this summer? That would be ideal for me. I am currently in Waterloo because I am in first year university already, but I will only be going back to Toronto for April-August, then I will be back in Waterloo.

Thank you for the help and detailed post, much appreciated.

Sorry I didn't realize you were already in Waterloo (I thought you were in Highschool) . You can bring it to CFRC Waterloo right now, the problem lies in  ''What happens if you don't get processed before you leave Waterlooo?'' In which case you could transfer it to CFRC Toronto or depending what is left it might be just ''easier'' to travel back to Waterloo for your remaining appointments (I haven't been in the recruiting system since they put it all online so I'm not sure how easy it to transfer these days).

If you get processed in time and there are spots for a basic, you will do basic with your unit in Waterloo (though likely not in Waterloo). This would be something to bring up to the recruiter when you go in.

''I'm available and would like to work this summer, assuming I am processed in time and there are spots on basic how would transportation work for me as for this summer I will be living in Toronto with my parents''.

You may run into similiar logistic problems that I did but once you get an apartment just leave your equipment in Waterloo should you go to Toronto for future summers. I'm not sure what the actually policy is on WRT to reservists taking a POMV or other transportation to and from and course because they don't currently live in the city where they parade during the year.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: TangoFoxtrot on April 17, 2016, 21:21:52
Hi,

I am currently completing an university undergrad in Computer Science and I am thinking of going for the reserve once I graduate (in about 1.5 year). I am thinking about applying as a Signal Officer (reserve) as their is a unit in my town (Ottawa).

As I am not (yet) ready to apply I have a few questions, but I don't really want to bother a recruiting office just yet. I'll wait until my graduation before "starting the process". I just thought I could get a few answer here for the time being.

So first, I was wondering what the training route for a signal officer. As I currently have a job lined-up after graduation, it will be unlikely for me to be able to leave for an extended period of time for training. Is it possible to do all the training during the week-end?

Is there any period of time that is better to apply? (early in September / after new year...)?

I was in the air cadets for 5.5 year (I left in December 2010) and reached the rank of staff sargent (equivalent to warrant officer). I have a good record of service (I have it it a sealed envelope as the CO told me to hold on it if I want to join the CF). I've heard from a friend (former cadet now in the CF) that it could give seniority & faster promotion. Is it still the case? (I've say a post on that before from this forum but it's dating & based on old DFAOs order).

How does the promotion work out in the reserve? Can I expect to be Lt. within 2-3 years, and captain within 6-7 years, or I have more chances getting a CD before making captain? (given I am not intending to be Mr. no show / 2Lt. ScrewUp)?

I have an amateur radio license (have working knowledge of Radio comms. / HF Radio / making antennas / currently learning morse / ...) is it something worth mentioning during hiring process?

Thank you,
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on April 17, 2016, 21:48:47
Welcome to Army.ca, TangoFoxtrot

I see by your profile that you have already begun to explore older threads. You should soon, if you have not already, stumbled across  http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,16735.0.html - into which I shall merge this thread shortly. Please continue to read through older threads, especially those stickied at the top of each forum, prior to asking more questions. Almost everything that you could think to ask has already been answered, often many times. As a bonus, you will likely find answers to questions that have not even occurred to you yet.

And speaking of stickied topics, note "READ FIRST" http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,115341.0.html in the "Ask a CAF Recruiter" Forum:

"This section is for persons who have questions about joining the Canadian Armed Forces, occupations, different enrolment programs, and prerequisites. Much of the information can be found at Forces.ca, or the Recruiting FAQ and wiki section of this site. Before you ask a question, you should be searching the forum or the Forces.ca website for these answers."
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: TangoFoxtrot on April 17, 2016, 22:26:56
Thanks for the quick reply, I did look at some previous thread, but some questions were left unanswered. Maybe I should have been more direct in certain of my questions. For greater clarity, allow me to rephrase some of my questions:

Quote
So first, I was wondering what the training route for a signal officer. As I currently have a job lined-up after graduation, it will be unlikely for me to be able to leave for an extended period of time for training. Is it possible to do all the training during the week-end?

I've seen lot of topic about BMQ on week-end. More specifically, other than BMQ, do I need to accomplish any other training to become signal officer. If so, would they be offered throughout the week-end. How long (approximately) will it takes to get all the training I need to make it 2ndLt if I do week-end training?


Quote
Is there any period of time that is better to apply? (early in September / after new year...)?

This one have been discussed on previous post I have to admit. I've heard different stories on this and wasen't sure if different trades work differently, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to ask... Point taken I'll refer to other posts.


Quote
I was in the air cadets for 5.5 year (I left in December 2010) and reached the rank of staff sargent (equivalent to warrant officer). I have a good record of service (I have it it a sealed envelope as the CO told me to hold on it if I want to join the CF). I've heard from a friend (former cadet now in the CF) that it could give seniority & faster promotion. Is it still the case? (I've say a post on that before from this forum but it's dating & based on old DFAOs order).

Information on that topic (that I've found so far) is old, the post I've saw did not present any clear answer, DFAO cited is no longer on forces.ca website... I think I could use an "up to date" answer on this one.


Quote
How does the promotion work out in the reserve? Can I expect to be Lt. within 2-3 years, and captain within 6-7 years, or I have more chances getting a CD before making captain? (given I am not intending to be Mr. no show / 2Lt. ScrewUp)?

My intent behind that question is to be able to have a better idea of what the pay check will look like. Based on some research that I've done (I think) that the estimate that I've put in the question are realistic. Topics on that subject on the forum are often replied by "it depends what trade your going for" which do not really answer my question. I know that promotion do not follow the rules of "an exact science", I was more looking to see if my estimates are realistic.

Thanks,
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on April 17, 2016, 22:48:06
I have now merged the topics.

More people, with more direct and recent knowledge, can now chime in. Expect a number of links from mariomike shortly. He is the quickest person on the Site for locating information.

I am far removed from the recruiting world, so do not consider myself competent to provide detailed responses, however:

Officers do BMOQ, not BMQ. A search for "Reserve BMOQ" brought up:

http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,118190.msg1355182.html#msg1355182

http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,120550.msg1390016.html#msg1390016

http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,207.msg1067423.html#msg1067423 (Reply 90)

Beyond BMOQ, there will be occupation-specific training.

I do not believe that Cadet experience will count for anything as an Officer. Somebody else will correct or confirm that one soon enough. There have been posts regarding that here before, though.

While http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,122173.0.html deals with NCM pay, it should give you some insight regarding Res F Officer pay. In brief, it varies, mainly depending upon how much time you put in. Think of it as fun money rather than counting upon it.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on April 17, 2016, 22:53:32
I was in the air cadets for 5.5 year (I left in December 2010) and reached the rank of staff sargent (equivalent to warrant officer). I have a good record of service (I have it it a sealed envelope as the CO told me to hold on it if I want to join the CF). I've heard from a friend (former cadet now in the CF) that it could give seniority & faster promotion. Is it still the case?

Does Army Cadets help you become an Officer?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=107224.0

Is there any period of time that is better to apply? (early in September / after new year...)?

When to apply
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=121220.0

Best Time to apply?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=100018.0

When should I apply?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=107775.0

Best time to join the reserves
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=79266.0

When should I apply for direct entry?
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=112388.0

When to start applying for Direct Entry?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,108248.0/nowap.html

Application timing
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=112958.0

etc...

How does the promotion work out in the reserve?

Promotion Policy of the PRes 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=102568.0

So first, I was wondering what the training route for a signal officer.

Signal Officer Training 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=105686.0

See also,

Signal Officer
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+cadets+become+officer&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=gT4UV4SOJsGC8QeQsoHoDg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca+signal+officer+

I have an amateur radio license (have working knowledge of Radio comms. / HF Radio / making antennas / currently learning morse / ...) is it something worth mentioning during hiring process?

Might be worth mentioning during your Interview. ( Just my opinion. )





Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Gunshark on May 11, 2016, 18:51:39
I'll wait until my graduation before "starting the process".
Keep in mind application process takes forever. If this is something you know you want, consider applying several months sooner than you intent to "begin". It will get the process rolling and reduce the gap in wait.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: TheSnake on May 17, 2016, 19:07:10
Is it like the fitness test where I send an email or talk to in person to book a time that works? and is it like the fitness test where it is once a week at a certian type that I have to book in advance just like the fitness test ?


Thank's in Advance.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ShatteredAwe on May 17, 2016, 19:20:27
First time poster and long time lurker. I'll try to make this short because I'm sure that everyone here is extremely busy.

I'm a 17 year old girl, but I'm turning 18 in June. In June I'll also be graduating high school, and I'll be heading off to pursue a Bachelor of Arts, and then go on to Law school (hopefully). However, for all of my life I've wanted to at least help out in the military, and once I did enough research, I found that the Reserves would be the right branch for me, because of the flexibility (I know about the ROTC program, but I don't feel comfortable signing 5 years of my life away after my undergrad). I've been doing a lot of research on the topic, but I still have some questions. I've been asking around, and I'm trying to contact an army recruiter in my local area (Toronto, Ontario) but since I'm still at school I can't reach them before they close. Either way, let's start?


1. I'm interested in the Infantry Soldier/Officer (From what I've read, an Officer requires a University degree), Armoured Soldier/Officer, Combat Engineer, Supply Technician and Logistics Officer trades. I'm curious about what the training would look like for each, and how each trade differed. And do any of them have overlap?

2. Is there a program like the ROTC Army program in the Reserves?

3. This doesn't have much to do with me joining up, but what is the typical wage per year/month/etc for a Reserve soldier?

4. Would it possible for me to get a day or two off from my placement when it's not the Summer months? My university program involved paid Co-op, and because of that I might be required to move away from my home city for a semester or two

5. Is it true that the standards to be an infantry and/or armoured soldier are extremely high? Does anyone know how high they are exactly? I'm not adverse to hard work, I'm just curious.

6.  In all of the trades I listed, they mention a period of training that requires a series of consecutive weeks. Because I'm planning on still being in school for the next while, would this take place over my Summers?

7. Is there any way that I could get a "preview" of what life would be like in the reserves, and what each trade entails?

8. Do any trades overlap with other areas? Like, do any trades allow one to work with the Army and the Navy consecutively, for example?

Thank you for your time and I hope I'm not being annoying.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: TheSnake on May 17, 2016, 20:08:03
Written test? Do you mean the aptitude test?
  Yes, this is what I am talking about sorry for not using the right name, so after fitness test when do I take the  aptitude test? Is it just like the fitness test that it's taken once a week and I call someone or email someone to book my spot  ? so I can find a date that works?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 17, 2016, 20:20:40
  Yes, this is what I am talking about sorry for not using the right name, so after fitness test when do I take the  aptitude test?

Canadian Forces Aptitude Test (CFAT) FAQ 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=23193.800

See also,

Step three: Aptitude Test
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on May 17, 2016, 20:57:06
Welcome to Army.ca, ShatteredAwe

There is a ton of information already here on this Site. As a long-time lurker, you should already be aware of that. Most, if not all, of your questions have been answered before.

I shall move this into a more appropriate forum, wherein more people may respond, soon, as none of you questions require answers from a Recruiter specifically.

And, yes, many people here are quite busy, hence our expectation that people make their own effort to find what is already here.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ShatteredAwe on May 17, 2016, 20:59:13
Welcome to Army.ca, ShatteredAwe

There is a ton of information already here on this Site. As a long-time lurker, you should already be aware of that. Most, if not all, of your questions have been answered before.

I shall move this into a more appropriate forum, wherein more people may respond, soon, as none of you questions require answers from a Recruiter specifically.

And, yes, many people here are quite busy, hence our expectation that people make their own effort to find what is already here.

I understand. Sorry.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on May 17, 2016, 23:27:04
No need to apologize.

We are here to help, and we want you to succeed. If you cannot find an answer to something, then we will do our best to provide one.

Looking for yourself really does have benefits, though.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 18, 2016, 00:03:54
I'm interested in the Infantry Soldier/Officer (From what I've read, an Officer requires a University degree), Armoured Soldier/Officer, Combat Engineer, Supply Technician and Logistics Officer trades. 

Browse Jobs
http://www.forces.ca/en/jobexplorer/browsejobs-70
"Select all of the Education Levels that you have completed to view the jobs that you are eligible for."

Infantry
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca++infantry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=9dk7V9GhHeOM8QfW4Kb4Dg&gws_rd=ssl

Armour
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca++infantry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=9dk7V9GhHeOM8QfW4Kb4Dg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca++armour

Combat Engineer
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca++infantry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=9dk7V9GhHeOM8QfW4Kb4Dg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca++combat+engineer

Supply Tech
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca++infantry&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=9dk7V9GhHeOM8QfW4Kb4Dg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca++supply+tech

This doesn't have much to do with me joining up, but what is the typical wage per year/month/etc for a Reserve soldier?

Pay Rates
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/pay-rates.page

Career Options
Part-Time
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/careeroptions-123#tab3

I know about the ROTC program,

ROTP?

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.






Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DAA on May 18, 2016, 10:55:37
The Recruiting Website should be able to answer most of your questions.   www.forces.ca

Joining the Reserves

If you are interested in joining the Reserves, your first step is to contact one of your local Reserve units to find out which positions are available.   You can find local Reserve Units at the "tabs"   http://www.forces.ca/en/centres/findarecruiter-110

Some Units will hold "Info Sessions" during the evenings and most are open on Thursday nights.   Call or email one of them for additional details.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: DAA on May 18, 2016, 10:58:49
  Yes, this is what I am talking about sorry for not using the right name, so after fitness test when do I take the  aptitude test? Is it just like the fitness test that it's taken once a week and I call someone or email someone to book my spot  ? so I can find a date that works?

Once you have undertaking the initial Physical Fitness Testing (FORCE Test) at your local Reserve Unit and if successful, they will send these results to your local Recruiting Centre who will update your application record/files and then make contact with you to schedule an appointment to write the CFAT/TSD.  If you haven't heard from your local CFRC within two weeks of completing your fitness test, I'd suggest you contact them directly.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 18, 2016, 17:12:16
I'm interested in the Infantry Soldier/Officer (From what I've read, an Officer requires a University degree), Armoured Soldier/Officer, Combat Engineer, Supply Technician and Logistics Officer trades. I'm curious about what the training would look like for each, and how each trade differed. And do any of them have overlap?

Regarding "overlap". The three highlighted trades are Combat Arms, "A team that includes Armour, Artillery, Infantry, and Engineers."
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca++%22Combat+Arms%22&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=HMw8V5DkOeyM8Qfvg6ewDg&gws_rd=ssl
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ShatteredAwe on May 19, 2016, 15:08:55
Thanks everyone! I'm feeling really positive about joining up sometime within the next few years now. Now I just have to find the time to be able to call a recruiter (in my area they're open until 4pm, but I get off of school at 3pm and I don't get back home until 4pm) for some more intimate details. I'm going to ask if it's possible to tour the armoury / see the equipment each trade uses.

Once again thanks! If I have any more questions I'll let you know.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 19, 2016, 15:38:02
Now I just have to find the time to be able to call a recruiter (in my area they're open until 4pm, but I get off of school at 3pm and I don't get back home until 4pm) for some more intimate details.  I'm going to ask if it's possible to tour the armoury / see the equipment each trade uses.

Perhaps leave a voice mail on their answering machine asking the unit(s) of your choice to return your telephone call at a time convenient to you. Or visit the unit(s) on a parade night.

Eg: This is just one random example in the GTA,

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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on May 19, 2016, 18:40:46
Now I just have to find the time to be able to call a recruiter (in my area they're open until 4pm, but I get off of school at 3pm and I don't get back home until 4pm) for some more intimate details.

I take it by this that you are intending to contact a Recruiting Centre.

The process for joining Reserve units is different. You need to begin with the Reserve unit that you wish to join, and they operate in the evenings (one or two each week). They will be closing down for the summer soon, as many/most people will be on course or helping to run courses and other activities. The process should be explained in this thread, if you've not already read it.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Jarnhamar on May 19, 2016, 19:07:09
ShatteredAwe what about those trades you highlighted makes you want to join them?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: runormal on May 19, 2016, 19:25:52
1. I'm interested in the Infantry Soldier/Officer (From what I've read, an Officer requires a University degree), Armoured Soldier/Officer, Combat Engineer, Supply Technician and Logistics Officer trades. I'm curious about what the training would look like for each, and how each trade differed. And do any of them have overlap?

The best would be to contact the unit specifically. I don't know the exact sequence for officers but for most Army NCM Trades Your trades training would be something like this:

Course 1: BMQ (Basic training this should be roughly 26 training  days or 11 weekends),
Course 2: BMQ - L (Old name was SQ): This is a course where you learn the basics of being a soldier. I've heard mixed things regarding the length of this course.
Course 3* DP 1.0 (Old name was QL3): This will be the course where you learn how to do your job. It will be full time in the summer and length of time varies trade to trade.

At this stage of your career you willy be fully qualified your next career courses would be:

Dp 2.0 (Old name was Ql5)
PLQ (Primary Leadership Qualification)

* Certain Trades more or less need Driver Wheel before DP 1.0 (Sigs, some logistics trades and i'd imagine armoured). Depending on which trade you pick you may do that course beforehand. Likewise if you become an infanteer you may never get the Driver's Course.

2. Is there a program like the ROTC Army program in the Reserves?

Not knowing the specifics of the ROTC program, there is a program within the reserves called the ILP program (Individual Learning Program), You apply the year beforehand and once you are approved, you take the courses and then claim them the following semester. The army will pay up to %50 of your tuition for a maximum of $2,00 each year (up to $8,000). As long as you show up consistently and file your paperwork on time you should get the money.

3. This doesn't have much to do with me joining up, but what is the typical wage per year/month/etc for a Reserve soldier?

I wouldn't try to budget to hard with the reserves, exercises get cancelled, spots get added / removed, dates change and things come up in your personal life. You might be really busy one month and not so busy the month. I've found I've gotten around $10k (net) every year working in the reserves but that it is working pretty much every available weekend and a few weekends in the summer. You could make more money if you were more available in the summer or during the training year but it depends on your unit's schedule and your availability. You likely won't make that much "extra" money outside of your courses until you are fully qualified Pte(t) which you should receive shortly after you complete your Dp 1.0

4. Would it possible for me to get a day or two off from my placement when it's not the Summer months? My university program involved paid Co-op, and because of that I might be required to move away from my home city for a semester or two

I'm not sure if I understand this question. I think you are saying can I not show up for X amount of time? If you need to take an extended absence you could file for ED&T (Excused from Drill and Training). I've never done it so I don't  know the specifics. Likewise if you know in advance that you are going to City X, you might be able to get attach posted (work with another unit, while still being "owned" by your parent unit. 


5. Is it true that the standards to be an infantry and/or armoured soldier are extremely high? Does anyone know how high they are exactly? I'm not adverse to hard work, I'm just curious.

I'm not an infanteer I don't know, sorry.


6.  In all of the trades I listed, they mention a period of training that requires a series of consecutive weeks. Because I'm planning on still being in school for the next while, would this take place over my Summers?

Normally yes your training should be sometime between May-August, there has been cases where reserves have gotten on reg-f courses (throughout the year) but this isn't a guarantee. I'd expect to be doing your courses during the summer. If you are unavailable during the summer, let your chain of command know. But if I were you and trying to do a coop, I would do everything in your power to get trade qualified as quickly as possible. 

7. Is there any way that I could get a "preview" of what life would be like in the reserves, and what each trade entails?

Your best bet would be to research here, and on forces.ca.

They did release this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItRPjUN0UAo

But I wouldn't expect to see a tank or a CF-18 in your time in the reserves. Your local unit might have something. It is a great job though especially for a student.


8. Do any trades overlap with other areas? Like, do any trades allow one to work with the Army and the Navy consecutively, for example?

I suppose in theory if you were like a clerk or supply tech or any other purple trade, you might be able to get a class b/c contract with a different element but I wouldn't bet the house on it. I'd expect to serve primarily  with the element you join. I haven't really worked with any other elements, I've seen the navy once or twice as an army reservist and briefly talked to a few members of the air force (traffic techs and pilots).

Thanks everyone! I'm feeling really positive about joining up sometime within the next few years now. Now I just have to find the time to be able to call a recruiter (in my area they're open until 4pm, but I get off of school at 3pm and I don't get back home until 4pm) for some more intimate details. I'm going to ask if it's possible to tour the armoury / see the equipment each trade uses.

Once again thanks! If I have any more questions I'll let you know.

Have you tried talking to your teachers/administration. Even though my school had a "No cellphone policy" I was still able to receive calls from my recruiter during class when I was in the application process. Everyone I found was really understanding.

ShatteredAwe what about those trades you highlighted makes you want to join them?

Jarnhamar brings about a great point, trying to change your trade after you swear in (within the reserves or with a transfer to the reg-f) can be difficult or a lengthy process. You have much more flexibility before you swear in.

All the best,
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Gunshark on May 20, 2016, 11:24:14
Course 2: BMQ - L (Old name was SQ): This is a course where you learn the basics of being a soldier. I've heard mixed things regarding the length of this course.

Two-week full time BMQ-L is offered to our unit this summer.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Dockrill923 on May 20, 2016, 11:32:51
I have two guys that are 16 in the regiment currently. Parental consent is required. That being said, it is highly unlikely that a 16/17 year old will be allowed to deploy even with their dp1.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 20, 2016, 11:48:50
That being said, it is highly unlikely that a 16/17 year old will be allowed to deploy even with their dp1.


Even with parental permission,  "Under the National Defence Act, members of the Canadian Forces who have not yet reached the age of 18 may not be deployed to any theatre of hostilities, or indeed, any area where armed combat is a possibility. The Canadian Forces also do not permit persons under the age of 18 to be deployed in any domestic emergency where weapon use cannot be ruled out.”
http://www.refworld.org/docid/486cb0f026.html

"While the Canadian Forces enrol 16 and 17 year-olds, the Forces have a policy which precludes members under the age of 18 from participating in hostilities or from being deployed to hostile theatres of operations."
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/news/article.page?doc=proposed-amendment-to-the-national-defence-act-to-reflect-commitment-to-the-new-un-protocol-on-child-soldiers/hnmx18z3



Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Lumber on May 20, 2016, 12:02:43
Would a 16/17 year old even be allowed to go to the range? I heard once that Cadets aren't allowed to shoot at Figure 8 targets because those targets have a picture of a person on them, and that would be considered to be teaching child soldiers.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 20, 2016, 12:10:16
Would a 16/17 year old even be allowed to go to the range?

We used to. But, a lot of things have changed since then.  :)
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Dockrill923 on May 20, 2016, 15:47:03
our 16/17 year old guys on BMQ were allowed as it is a required part of the training. as for cadets as far as I know they can't anymore
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PTE Brooks on May 22, 2016, 22:23:00
Good Evening,
     I'll make this quick, I really want to join the reserve, but I have a new daughter, and just started a new job. Am I required to leave for training, or is training local?  Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Pickle Rick on May 22, 2016, 22:31:26
Your basic training(BMQ) most likely would be local and done on weekends(some courses are full time in the summer). Your range weekend would most likely have you travel out of the area though, the military would transport you. As well, on the weekend BMQ course you will be spending your weekend(including nights) at the armoury.

Other courses such as your trade course(DP1) would most likely be out of area and be full time. Also, future career courses would be out of area. Where the training takes place will depend on the trade(job) you join as.


As well, weekend training exercises with your unit would be out of your local area. Some may be local, but expect to be away from home on these weekends.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on May 22, 2016, 22:51:05
Don't make it quick. Take it slow and read through older threads here, like this one, STICKIED so that people can find it easily. You have time to do some research.

There is a ton of info here already, ripe for the harvesting, with no need for further repetition. As a bonus to you, as you explore the Site, you'll likely find answers to questions that have not even occurred to you yet.

If you really can't find answers, then we'll be glad to help - most likely that will be mariomike producing a link to where the answer has been eluding you.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: RocketRichard on May 22, 2016, 23:11:46
Good Evening,
     I'll make this quick, I really want to join the reserve, but I have a new daughter, and just started a new job. Am I required to leave for training, or is training local?  Thank you for your time.
What area do you live in?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PTE Brooks on May 23, 2016, 00:39:09
Regina, Saskatchewan (thank you for you're prompt reply) for the record, I will be going down to the local reserve teusday, I'm just extremely excited.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PTE Brooks on May 23, 2016, 01:01:13
Your basic training(BMQ) most likely would be local and done on weekends(some courses are full time in the summer). Your range weekend would most likely have you travel out of the area though, the military would transport you. As well, on the weekend BMQ course you will be spending your weekend(including nights) at the armoury.

Other courses such as your trade course(DP1) would most likely be out of area and be full time. Also, future career courses would be out of area. Where the training takes place will depend on the trade(job) you join as.


As well, weekend training exercises with your unit would be out of your local area. Some may be local, but expect to be away from home on these weekends.

Thank you all for your reply, I have zero problem leaving on weekends to train, I am more than ready to put the hours in, my only standing issue was that I just started a new job in a brand new feild of work as of February , I was worried that I would immediately need to leave for 8-16 weeks to begin training, and I doubt my employer would be ok with that, however, if it were say next summer, to leave for a month or so, it could be worked out. I will continue to peruse the site for more unanswered questions before teusday night when I can speak directly to a recruiter. Again, you all are very helpful. Thank you.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PuckChaser on May 23, 2016, 14:21:23
Thank you all for your reply, I have zero problem leaving on weekends to train, I am more than ready to put the hours in, my only standing issue was that I just started a new job in a brand new feild of work as of February , I was worried that I would immediately need to leave for 8-16 weeks to begin training, and I doubt my employer would be ok with that, however, if it were say next summer, to leave for a month or so, it could be worked out. I will continue to peruse the site for more unanswered questions before teusday night when I can speak directly to a recruiter. Again, you all are very helpful. Thank you.

Welcome to life, sometimes you have to make difficult decisions. You are also not going to be gone for 16 weeks in the summer, even when BMQ-L had a whole lot more in it, BMQ+BMQ-L was 9.5 weeks. Unless a unit has slots open for you, its likely you won't even be able to attend BMQ this summer, you haven't even spoken to a recruiter yet and those summer serials are going to start in 4-5 weeks. That's cutting it razor close for even a perfect and simple recruiting case to get through the system.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: George Wallace on May 23, 2016, 14:29:48
........you haven't even spoken to a recruiter yet and those summer serials are going to start in 4-5 weeks. That's cutting it razor close for even a perfect and simple recruiting case to get through the system.

Let's not create false hope.  The Recruiting Process will not be completed in time for anyone to attend summer serials, if they have not even applied yet.  If a person walked into a Recruiting office today, they may have their processing and enrollment done in late September, perhaps before Christmas; but even then, all the stars have to align.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PTE Brooks on May 23, 2016, 15:15:57
Let's not create false hope.  The Recruiting Process will not be completed in time for anyone to attend summer serials, if they have not even applied yet.  If a person walked into a Recruiting office today, they may have their processing and enrollment done in late September, perhaps before Christmas; but even then, all the stars have to align.
Not an issue. I was under the impression the process would take some time. I briefly spoke to a recruiter last week at a trade fair my company attended, I was told the process could take 4-6 months, depending on slots and my application. All this does is gives me more time to learn and continue my fitness regime. Thanks all for your time, much appreciated.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Gunshark on May 24, 2016, 11:30:14
...I was told the process could take 4-6 months...

Or longer. In addition, the date you enrol is likely to be determined by when the next local BMQ serial is scheduled to run. I remember I would inquire about my application during the summer months and it wasn't getting much traction, but then things really started moving in the fall as I was being loaded onto an October 30 BMQ. It is also not uncommon to hear stories about candidates being enrolled a couple of days prior to the start of BMQ. So be ready for a lengthy application process as well as any updates on a moment's notice. Just get started early and go with the flow.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PTE Brooks on May 24, 2016, 23:58:57
Just talked to a recruiter today. Got all my paperwork and will fill out and drop off next week, and possibly do my fitness test on the same day. Basic Training can be done on weekends over 5 months, and trade specific will be accomplished next summer. Thanks much for all your info and help. Take care.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: karmeliet on May 25, 2016, 03:54:11
I've been reading a lot about a lot of different things about training as a part-time in the reserves, and I'm really confused over the mass amount of information everywhere. I went to an information session at Le Régiment de Hull in Gatineau and they offer positions as armoured soldiers in the reserves. They said that they go for one night a week and the whole weekend. This seems perfect to me, but they told me that it is obligatory to go for 9 weeks in the summer full-time. I thought that part-time reservists had the choice of being sent off somewhere and only need to do part-time service. Or is it different based on occupation? I should have asked when I was there, but it didn't click to me. I also asked if I could get information on a place that is more english-spoken, and I luckily found out I could join a unit in the Ottawa region too. But now, I am wondering if this obligatory full-time training would be the same for Infantry Soldiers? Is there no way around this full-time summer training? I have studies in the summer, that is why I ask. Everything seems perfect about joining the reserves part-time apart from this apparent obligation to go full-time for over two months in a different city. Thanks for reading and for any replies
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: runormal on May 25, 2016, 07:07:39
You will have to go "full time". For some point.

Different course vary depending on the trade.

ACISS is 2 months,
Infantry is 2 months (2 1- month modules).

It is possible to so your basic and your BMQ-L (formerly known as SQ) part time on weekends. However your DP 1.0 (formerly known as QL3) is full time which varies trade by trade.

Do you have courses every summer?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: blackhat123 on May 25, 2016, 08:01:15
For your SA, DP1 Armd Recce is approx. 5 weeks, with most weekends scheduled to be off. BMQ-L is 12 training days.

Karmeliet, if you do weekend BMQ during the training year, you can expect to be away from late June/early July until late Aug.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Pusser on May 25, 2016, 09:05:50
For the most part Reserve soldiering is part-time (i.e. one or two evenings a weekend and occasional weekends).  However, they do need to bring you up to a certain level of training, which would take years if they had to do it in three hour slots, once per week.  So yes, there will be periods of extended training when you will have to stay overnight for several nights (or weeks).  Keep in mind that they pay you for this and most students find that as a summer job it pays pretty well (and is whole lot more fun than flipping burgers).
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 25, 2016, 09:23:35
Is there no way around this full-time summer training?

See also,

Reserve Q?s: Is summer training mandatory?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,24352.0.html
OP: "Is summer training for Reserves mandatory?
Couldn‘t the BMQ and the rest of Basic Training be completed during the one evening a week and certain weekends that must be attended for training?"
2 pages.

Any reserve DP1/DP2 training that can be done outside of summer courses?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=104076.0
OP: "I've been exploring reserve occupations that can accommodate working people who can't take summer courses due to work/lack of vacation.
It's either weekend training, modular training or changing/quitting jobs to make the reserves happen."

etc...

There are many discussions regarding full-time versus part-time Reserve training.

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.


Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PTE Brooks on May 26, 2016, 15:08:52
Is there no way around this full-time summer training? I have studies in the summer, that is why I ask. Everything seems perfect about joining the reserves part-time apart from this apparent obligation to go full-time for over two months in a different city. Thanks for reading and for any replies
I spoke to a recruiter on teusday evening, (I apologize for not knowing the acronyms for training. So bear with me) and what I got from it is for the reserves you will complete your BMQ on weekends over the course ofna few months, then you go for your trade specific training over the summer, however, you can conplete your trade specific training over two summers, in 3 week blocks, but it's not recommended, not only is there the possibility of forgetting what you have learned (due to the fact it's not all in one smooth transition tying all your training together) but you also cannot join in with all the training exercises because you will be in a B unit, so you would be helping set up the exercises for the trained reservists or cleaning weapons etc. My recruiter warned me that it would be a very boring way to spend a year.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 26, 2016, 15:40:43
So bear with me) and what I got from it is for the reserves you will complete your BMQ on weekends over the course ofna few months, then you go for your trade specific training over the summer, however, you can conplete your trade specific training over two summers, in 3 week blocks, but it's not recommended, not only is there the possibility of forgetting what you have learned (due to the fact it's not all in one smooth transition tying all your training together) but you also cannot join in with all the training exercises because you will be in a B unit, so you would be helping set up the exercises for the trained reservists or cleaning weapons etc.

See also,

Weekend courses over summer?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,81143.msg776170.html#msg776170
"So for those of us that have jobs that we wouldn't be able to take time off from during the summer, we'll just have to wait in till the resumption of regular training after summer to go on course over the weekends?"
"...depending on what trade you intend to join, the requisite trade courses will, in alot of cases, only be available full-time during the summer."

Work Full time, Basic Training Days
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=105695.0
"ALL trade courses are done on a full time basis in the summer."

Work balance in the CAF Reserves
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=120550.0
"I also recently started a full time civilian job. I am wondering if you guys can share you experience working full time in a civilian job and balancing that with military life.Was it difficult?"

Does my civilian job work with Reserve Service?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=120072.0
"If you join the reserves, expect to be gone for two full months the first summer you're in."

etc..
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Jarnhamar on May 26, 2016, 18:37:24
Is there no way around this full-time summer training?
As stated, no.
You can:
-Not join
-Join and go away for one summer then spend the rest of your career putting in as little work and effort as possible, basically taking the spot of someone who would contribute to the unit a lot more.
-Talk to your teachers and come up with some kind of arrangement like taking your exams early.

Quote
apart from this apparent obligation to go full-time for over two months in a different city.
What would you do if you join the reserves and are for whatever reason ordered to work full time for X amount of weeks/months?

It's probably not your fault, it's probably the recruiters for just trying to get you in the door and not explaining the environment and expectations better.  The reserves doesn't exist to put money in your pocket when it's convenient to be blatantly honest.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brasidas on May 31, 2016, 15:13:26
As stated, no.
You can:
-Not join
-Join and go away for one summer then spend the rest of your career putting in as little work and effort as possible, basically taking the spot of someone who would contribute to the unit a lot more.
-Talk to your teachers and come up with some kind of arrangement like taking your exams early.
What would you do if you join the reserves and are for whatever reason ordered to work full time for X amount of weeks/months?

It's probably not your fault, it's probably the recruiters for just trying to get you in the door and not explaining the environment and expectations better.  The reserves doesn't exist to put money in your pocket when it's convenient to be blatantly honest.

I'm with you on everything except the bolded part.

Given that the last time that's happened was towards the end of world war 2, I don't see it as a factor. Yes, its conceivable that an earth-shattering event and change in government policy could mean a mandatory callup, and that liability should be mentioned to someone joining the CF. But telling them to prepare to plan a break in their routine life with work and school for any circumstance short of that is getting off-track.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 31, 2016, 16:11:33
What would you do if you join the reserves and are for whatever reason ordered to work full time for X amount of weeks/months?

Given that the last time that's happened was towards the end of world war 2, I don't see it as a factor. Yes, its conceivable that an earth-shattering event and change in government policy could mean a mandatory callup, and that liability should be mentioned to someone joining the CF. But telling them to prepare to plan a break in their routine life with work and school for any circumstance short of that is getting off-track.

Even if that were to happen, "Leave of absence shall be granted to employees to serve in the Armed Forces during hostilities or during a time of war as declared by the Government of Canada. Seniority will accumulate during such leave."

That's the written agreement where I used to work. YMMV. It applies not only to Reservists, but also Volunteers and those who may be conscripted.

See also the 20-page, "Reservists Job Protection Superthread".

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on June 02, 2016, 10:25:32
Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter. Adding for reference,

"I'm going to be submitting my application shortly for the Navy Reserves and I was wondering if the tests and interview are put up against all positions available to reservists or only the ones on your application (maximum of 3)."
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123204.0.html
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on June 06, 2016, 22:49:31
Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter. Adding for reference,

Choosing a reserve unit to apply to and the trades on application
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123215.msg1438861/topicseen.html#new
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on June 14, 2016, 15:14:29
Asked and answered in Ask a CAF Recruiter. Adding for reference,

Re-apply reserve after declining reg force offer
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123321.msg1440362/topicseen.html#new
Q: "I am curious what the wait time is to re-apply for reservist"

A: There is no wait time to re-apply.  Because you are changing elements and CFRCs there is some administration that will need to take place for your file to continue.
* You will need to contact your new CFRC to ask for your file to be transferred.
* You will need to contact the Reserve unit to find out if (1) they're hiring and if so (2) when you can do a FORCE Test with them.




Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: kamael on June 19, 2016, 04:07:35
Hello,

I just joined the army PRES and got my kit. I am going on BMQ on Monday 20, but my unit didn't send me a kit list. Since nobody is working there until Monday, there is no hope that I will receive it until its too late (I have to leave at 830 AM on monday, the same time the regiment's office opens). Could anybody forward me the kit list for PRES? I was thinking of taking all of my kit in case I receive no information.

Thanks to everyone in advance
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on June 19, 2016, 10:27:57
I was thinking of taking all of my kit in case I receive no information.

You may find this discussion of interest,

Reserve BMQ - What to bring?
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=101439.0
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: runormal on June 19, 2016, 15:36:15
Hello,

I just joined the army PRES and got my kit. I am going on BMQ on Monday 20, but my unit didn't send me a kit list. Since nobody is working there until Monday, there is no hope that I will receive it until its too late (I have to leave at 830 AM on monday, the same time the regiment's office opens). Could anybody forward me the kit list for PRES? I was thinking of taking all of my kit in case I receive no information.

Thanks to everyone in advance

I'd bring everything. Some of it you won't need I.E ICE Pants/ICE Jacket, Winter gloves, Toque etc because it is summer. But on my basic we had to show that physically had every piece of kit we signed for.. I'd pack it smarter, like i'd throw all of the obvious winter stuff in the barrack box and pack everything for the summer, in the two duffels..

You don't want to be that guy who "didn't think that we were going to need it"  especially on basic.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: rusty1002 on June 27, 2016, 14:23:52
Hello, I am currently 15 going onto 16 soon and want to join the Canadian reserves. I am only heading into Grade 10 this year. I wasent held back I was just raised in a different country for a short time. will the fact that i'm only going into Grade 10 this year affect my chances of getting in?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on June 27, 2016, 14:30:36
I am only heading into Grade 10 this year.

Education

To apply to the Forces you must have passed Grade 10 or Secondaire IV (in Quebec). http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100#education

For reference, perhaps this will be merged with,

QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=16735.125
7 pages.

 
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Drew Grey on July 11, 2016, 20:21:51
Can you join your local reserves after you've applied for the regular force? And then transition to the regular force once your given a job offer? Given how long the process takes with the regular force I'm not seeing a problem in doing this...or am I wrong?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PuckChaser on July 11, 2016, 20:23:44
You're wrong. One process will stop the other. Don't waste the Reserve unit's time and effort if you just plan on immediately going to the Regular Force.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Drew Grey on July 11, 2016, 20:31:10
I see. Thanks for the reply
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: runormal on July 11, 2016, 23:05:59
Likewise the time to transfer once you are already in the reserves makes whatever money/experience you make not worth it.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: krimynal on July 12, 2016, 00:59:29
do NOT join the reserve to transfer , been there , done that , worst decision anyone could make !!!

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on August 23, 2016, 11:00:03
Adding for Reference,

Pay during Fall BMQ(Reserves)
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123906.0/topicseen.html

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on September 28, 2016, 16:25:24
For reference,

Reserve Question - Training 

I have been looking in joining the reserve for a while now and I have decided to join. The main reason I am posting this is I am currently employed at a job that requires me to work (40 hrs/week) and I was wondering with the Training required for any position in the Canadian Armed Forces would it be possible for me to join?

Good Day,

Training requirements for the Primary Reserve vary depending on the unit you're joining and the occupation that you would like to become.  Unfortunately we cannot give a simple answer to your query above.  I highly suggest that you visit the Reserve unit that you're interested in joining and speak with the unit recruiter and the individuals at that unit.

Just as an example, the Naval Reserve only does Summer BMQ where you have to be gone for 8 weeks.  The Army Reserve has co-op BMQ, weekend BMQ and summer BMQ.  Beyond that each trade has it's own training time, some occupations have really short courses (2-3 weeks) for their trade course, others can be closer to 3-4 months for the Reserves.

Best Regards,
Sgt Laen
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Eric17 on October 09, 2016, 02:17:30
Just curious xD
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on October 09, 2016, 09:02:04
Just curious xD

Regular/ Reserve: Reserve

You are applying as a Reservist,

From a CAF Recruiter in 2012,

CAFIB 20 is a "Permanent ID Card" and the CAFIB 13 is a "Temporary ID Card".  CAFIB 13 is issued by your local Military Police Ident Section.  Your Res F Unit should provide you with an ID Request Form and make an appointment to be processed.  The CAFIB 20 will follow in a few months.

Also, I don't believe they use the term "CAFIB" any longer.....I think it has been changed to NDI 20 or 13.

CFAO 26-3

Close.

It is now:

Temporary ID card is a NDI 10
Permanent ID card is a NDI 20

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Inuym on January 21, 2017, 00:58:50
Hello I have a few questions as it seems My only option may be to go reserves rather than full forces for the next two years. Now I am applying for the position of combat engineer and being as it would be through the reserves I am wondering what the training schedule would be like? Is it the same as regular force where I would attend basic training then bmq then occupational training before being complete with my training and returning home to the reserve forces? Or is it split up throughout the year to accommodate? I am not asking because I have a problem with doing the long haul I just want to educate my self.
Also I am wondering what the average reservist hours per week is? I know its one night a week and a weekend a month minimum however does this vary and if requested can you do more hours?

Also for you combat engineers who may be reading this I am also interested in what your favorite task and or moment is in your occupation?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PandemicStrange on January 21, 2017, 02:53:58
Hello I have a few questions as it seems My only option may be to go reserves rather than full forces for the next two years. Now I am applying for the position of combat engineer and being as it would be through the reserves I am wondering what the training schedule would be like? Is it the same as regular force where I would attend basic training then bmq then occupational training before being complete with my training and returning home to the reserve forces? Or is it split up throughout the year to accommodate? I am not asking because I have a problem with doing the long haul I just want to educate my self.
Also I am wondering what the average reservist hours per week is? I know its one night a week and a weekend a month minimum however does this vary and if requested can you do more hours?

Also for you combat engineers who may be reading this I am also interested in what your favorite task and or moment is in your occupation?

I'm not a reservist, but I did find some things for you to look at that would help you with what you're looking for perhaps. The links provided are google searches for the entire Army.ca website. That being said, typically Reserve training is done on the weekends, however depending on the unit and situation it could be a full time course for a few months (from what I've seen and heard). Hope this helps!


Away from home - Reserves
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+%22away+from+home%22+reserves&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=TbMjWPWUG8WC8QeLh4fYBg&gws_rd=ssl

Reserve training
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+reserve+traing&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=5bMjWPvILsWC8QeLh4fYBg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca+reserve+training

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on January 21, 2017, 09:03:19
Also for you combat engineers who may be reading this I am also interested in what your favorite task and or moment is in your occupation?

Information on Combat Engineers
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,22088.0/nowap.html
9 pages.

Average day (or week or month or even a year) as a Combat Engineer 
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,109556.0/nowap.html

See also,

Combat Engineer
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Amilnet.ca+%22Richard+Spencer%22&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=dliDWL78H8qC8Qf4oKnYDQ&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:milnet.ca+combat+engineer

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.



Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: runormal on January 22, 2017, 00:41:08
Hello I have a few questions as it seems My only option may be to go reserves rather than full forces for the next two years. Now I am applying for the position of combat engineer and being as it would be through the reserves I am wondering what the training schedule would be like? Is it the same as regular force where I would attend basic training then bmq then occupational training before being complete with my training and returning home to the reserve forces? Or is it split up throughout the year to accommodate? I am not asking because I have a problem with doing the long haul I just want to educate my self.
Also I am wondering what the average reservist hours per week is? I know its one night a week and a weekend a month minimum however does this vary and if requested can you do more hours?

Also for you combat engineers who may be reading this I am also interested in what your favorite task and or moment is in your occupation?

Not an engineer, but a reservist.

It is honestly is a lot of it "depends". The majority of the training takes place in the following two time frames:
A) During the "Summer" - May -> August (Full Time)
B) On Weekends -> September -> April

That being said if you are available, you may get the option to go on a reg-f course, but there needs to be spots, and you can get bumped at any minute. Likewise random taskings/support tasking's can and do happen, but until you are trained you are more or less "useless" and will likely not be selected. Every unit is different with the PATs (Personnel Awaiting Training), some do the best they can to fully integrate them with the unit and others keep them completely separated until they are trade qualified.

Bottom the reserves is great supplementary income, unless you manage to get a class B/C Contract (full time contract). But you won't be remotely close to get one until you get your cpl's (so +/- two years), and even if you get one of those you might be  stuck in job/position completely unrelated to your trade.

Like wise full time in the summer months isn't guaranteed, there either needs to be a tasking/course for you to go on in order for you to get paid.

There is a maximum number of Class A days (I.e Part time/Day to Day days ) that you can work a year I think it is either 80 and then your CO has to approve the next 20 and then your brigade commander needs to approve another 20 and Div commander another 20. All easier said than done.

As a "fully trained" - and active member a regiment working pretty much every available weekend/training night I make about $10-$12k gross/yr. Excellent pocket money which is helping me pay back my student debt but that is about it. This year will likely be less as I'll have to use vacation days if I want to go on any week/two week exercise/taskings or try and take LWOP and loose money. 

I'm not sure of the specifics of your situation and quite frankly I love the reserves, but do not try to turn a part time job into a full-time job.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on January 22, 2017, 09:29:38
To add to what runormal said,

During the "Summer" - May -> August (Full Time)
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Amilnet.ca+summer&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=N6-EWI7TEKeC8QezmISgCg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:milnet.ca+summer+BMQ

On Weekends -> September -> April
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Amilnet.ca+summer&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=N6-EWI7TEKeC8QezmISgCg&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:milnet.ca+weekend+BMQ

There is a maximum number of Class A days (I.e Part time/Day to Day days ) that you can work a year I think it is either 80 and then your CO has to approve the next 20 and then your brigade commander needs to approve another 20 and Div commander another 20.

Maximum number of Class A days is discussed here ( and elsewhere ),

Pay - Reserves 
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php?topic=123906.0

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.







Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Heinrick Archsider on February 10, 2017, 18:27:10
Hello,

I'm currently a grade 12 student however due to reasons I am not comfortable to share here I missed a lot of school when I was younger. Long story short they set me up for an evergreen and being honest I have barely taken any real classes for my high school.

My question is this: Can I join an occupation in the Canadian military with an evergreen certificate?

I attempted to apply for the reserves and made it as far as my physical test. After that, I got a call that because I did not have the required minimal grade 10 course or the minimal 50 credits ( I was in grade 11 at the time) my application was halted until we could figure it out.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Brihard on February 10, 2017, 18:49:43
Only the recruiters will be able to figure that out with you, none of us can give a better answer or override. You're in the process, you'll have to work with them to see it through.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: RocketRichard on February 10, 2017, 20:35:21
Hello,

I'm currently a grade 12 student however due to reasons I am not comfortable to share here I missed a lot of school when I was younger. Long story short they set me up for an evergreen and being honest I have barely taken any real classes for my high school.

My question is this: Can I join an occupation in the Canadian military with an evergreen certificate?

I attempted to apply for the reserves and made it as far as my physical test. After that, I got a call that because I did not have the required minimal grade 10 course or the minimal 50 credits ( I was in grade 11 at the time) my application was halted until we could figure it out.
H.A. :  Is this for the regular force or reserve?


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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on February 10, 2017, 21:16:27
H.A. :  Is this for the regular force or reserve?

I attempted to apply for the reserves
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Buck_HRA on February 13, 2017, 12:28:37
Good Day,

What any recruiter will answer is as follows:

Basic entry requirements into the Canadian Armed Forces are as follows:

If you do not meet the Entry Standards as they are written than either a PLAR and/or waiver would need to be requested.
It is not up to recruiters to decide on whether these are approved.

Best Regards
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Jarnhamar on February 13, 2017, 12:42:15
Quote from: Heinrick Archsider
  due to reasons I am not comfortable to share here I missed a lot of school when I was younger.

Missed 33 days in my last semester thanks to Warcraft and I still made the infantry :salute:
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: alpine87 on March 22, 2017, 20:23:07
I have seen people without high school join and were very successful. You can only accomplish whatever you commit yourself to.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: tmanisdown on April 02, 2017, 13:59:02
Hey, everyone, i have some quick questions I looked around I couldn't find the answers I was looking for.

I was sworn into the armed forces as a combat engineer NCM in the reserves this past Friday (March 31st, 2017) so I haven't paraded with my unit yet.

From talking with my recruiters I was told I will be doing BMQ, BMQ-L and trade qualifications from May to mid-August. I was wondering while I am on course would I have to pay for the meals at the mess hall or will everything I need be provided while I am on course.

Also, I already know what to expect for BMQ and BMQ-L, however, i am not too sure what to expect for trades training in Gagetown at the school of engineering. Would anybody know what i could be expecting during my trade course.

Thank you
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Teager on April 02, 2017, 16:31:24
Well congrats on getting in as a Combat Engineer. I went through those 3 courses the same way your about to over a decade ago. Everything will be provided for you including your meals.

You will need to buy certain things such as boot polish and razors but the canex will have those if you forget anything.

Gagetown is a big base so if reserves are still living in mod tents during the summer then you might only eat at the mess for dinner. Breakfast will be hay boxes and lunch is a boxed lunch.

I don't want to comment to much on trades training as I have been out for a bit now and am not up to date on everything.

You will be happy to be trades trained by end of summer as many new recruits take 2 years to reach that.

Enjoy it.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on April 02, 2017, 22:02:47
Hey, everyone, i have some quick questions I looked around I couldn't find the answers I was looking for.

Thou didst not look widely, nor deeply, enough, for thou didst miss this whole sweet thread despite its eight-page enormity, and despite it being stickied at the top of this very sub-forum.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jules48 on April 13, 2017, 23:33:19
Hi, I emailed my local reserve regiment a few questions about enlisting they haven't replied in a week. I tried calling in but there's an automated voice saying to email them. Should I visit their armory to ask the questions and enlist? and Do they accept summer applications? Thanks
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on April 14, 2017, 10:13:09
Welcome to Army.ca, jules48

The average Reserve unit is only active one evening per week, and it is quite possible that the person to whom you sent the e-mail was absent for the last parade night. A visit would not hurt, but make sure that you know which night to go.

There is a lot of information here on this Site. Start reading through other pertinent older threads (I presume that you read through this thread prior to adding to it), especially those threads stickied at the top of each subforum.

And it's "armoury" in Canada.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: jules48 on April 14, 2017, 11:11:36
Thanks for the help. I have a friend in the regiment I'll ask him the hours and look around here.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Catbert225 on April 14, 2017, 22:27:09
Okay, so I'm new to these forums and thought that this might be a good place to ask some questions.

So, I want to join the navy reserves next year when I turn 16, but I ran into a problem. the closest navy reserve division is about a 2-hour drive away, and I would not be able to drive on my own until I get my full license.

However, I do live just outside an army base, and have heard that some bases have buses that go out to these divisions, would this be true, or would I just have to find someone to carpool with?

Also, is joining cadets something that would help me? I want to join sea cadets so I can learn a little bit about the navy before I join, but I have heard that it can actually make it worse when applying?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ModlrMike on April 14, 2017, 22:36:29
Okay, so I'm new to these forums and thought that this might be a good place to ask some questions.

So, I want to join the navy reserves next year when I turn 16, but I ran into a problem. the closest navy reserve division is about a 2-hour drive away, and I would not be able to drive on my own until I get my full license.

You must be 17 to join the CF.

However, I do live just outside an army base, and have heard that some bases have buses that go out to these divisions, would this be true, or would I just have to find someone to carpool with?

There may be transport that goes from place to place, but it is unlikely to be available for when you need it given the hours Reserve units typically parade over.

Also, is joining cadets something that would help me? I want to join sea cadets so I can learn a little bit about the navy before I join, but I have heard that it can actually make it worse when applying?

Many people find Cadets a useful first step. How it serves you later is all up to you, but it may have little or no effect on you application.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on April 14, 2017, 23:18:27
Welcome to Army.ca, Catbert225

As you can see, I have merged your thread into this one, which is stickied at the top of this subforum where it may readily be found by those seeking answers to "QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES".

There is a wealth of knowledge already on this Site, ripe for the plucking. Please seek and read through pertinent older threads, especially those also stickied at the top of their subfora. They are stickied for good reason.

You will learn much more by doing this, will likely find answers to questions before they even occur to you, and you will help keep this Site less cluttered.

Happy Reading.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on April 14, 2017, 23:53:28
I want to join the navy reserves next year when I turn 16,

You must be 17 to join the CF.

Reserve Force - Applicants may be 16 years of age if they are also enrolled as a full-time high school student.
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100#who
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: dantaeos on April 23, 2017, 16:57:54
Hello,

I've completed the requirements in order to join the Reserves Infantry but am currently debating between joining as an NCM or an Officer (I already have a degree). While I am more inclined to join as on officer for the leadership training, I also know it takes two summers of modules to fully complete the BMOQ.

My question is therefore, what happens after the first summer of BMOQ, do you graduate even though you have not completed the full course? What are your responsibilities for that in between year, as you are not yet a full officer?

Thanks,

Andrew
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on April 23, 2017, 17:08:08
what happens after the first summer of BMOQ, do you graduate even though you have not completed the full course? What are your responsibilities for that in between year, as you are not yet a full officer?

You may, or may not, find these discussions helpful,

PRes Infantry BMOQ
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+officer+ncm&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=tAf9WN6rNISN8Qfz-bqwBA&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca+reserve+infantry+BMOQ&spf=1

As always,  Recruiting / your unit is your most trusted source of information.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: dantaeos on April 23, 2017, 23:37:30
Hey Mariomike,

Those links were useful in terms of how the training is like but they didn't go over the duties in that inbetween period where you are technically not an "Officer" yet. For example what if I am unable to take time off my work in the next year to complete the training?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on April 23, 2017, 23:47:42
For example what if I am unable to take time off my work in the next year to complete the training?

Might be a good question to ask your unit recruiter  before   you join?  :)
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on April 24, 2017, 09:59:32
A lot will vary with the unit. As mariomike suggested, you need to discuss this with the unit recruiter. I'd be surprised if there wasn't an interview with one of the more senior Officers as part of the recruiting process for a prospective officer.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: AdrianInfantry on April 30, 2017, 16:27:24
Hello Readers,

Q1: Can you join reserves at the age of 16 while i am a full time student, i'm 16 at the moment and i am going for infantry. It says "Reserve Force - Applicants may be 16 years of age if they are also enrolled as a full-time high school student." But i am unsure if you must be finished grade 10 or not

Q2: How would basic training work since i'm still in school would i do basic periodically or during the summer

Q3: How long would i take for me to actually start basic after I've talked to a recruiter

Thanks for reading and if anyone has the awnser to any of my questions please do answer since i wish to apply as soon as possible  :cdn:
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on April 30, 2017, 16:45:06
i am unsure if you must be finished grade 10 or not

To apply to the Forces, you must:
Have completed at least Grade 10 or Secondaire IV (in Quebec).
http://www.forces.ca/en/page/applynow-100#who

How would basic training work since i'm still in school would i do basic periodically or during the summer

Reserve Weekend or Summer BMQ
( As a student, if you have summers available, you may prefer Summer BMQ. )
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+BMQ+weekend+summer&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=bz8GWcauAsiC8Qee6Y_4Cg&gws_rd=ssl#spf=1

How long would i take for me to actually start basic after I've talked to a recruiter

TIMINGS - ESTIMATED TIMES FOR_______________ 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=81054.0

See also,

QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=16735.125
8 pages.

OP: AdrianInfantry
Joining the Reserves 
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,125669.msg1486580.html#msg1486580

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Scott on April 30, 2017, 17:55:04
Hi Adrian,

Just to expand a tiny bit more on what mariomike quite helpfully posted, talking to the CFRC (surely what he meant by "recruiting") will be your best bet. In the meantime, please have a read of the links he posted, and please keep your questions to one single thread. It really helps when it's all in one spot.

Good luck!

Edit: clarity.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Buck_HRA on April 30, 2017, 20:33:58
In future please only post your queries to one thread - and please use the search feature as your questions have been asked and answered many times :-)

PS. Thank you mariomike & George Wallace; I hadn't even noticed the double thread.  This topic is locked and the other topic is removed.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: AdrianInfantry on May 03, 2017, 16:58:44
Hello Readers,

I am finishing up grade 10 and i'm currently 16 but i wish to do basic training over the summer for the two months.
I'm finishing up grade 10 and i have about 1 month and a few weeks until i finish grade 10 but i know there is processing
involved, which i am required to show but the time that i finish will it be too late to join because i have waited a year so far
and i rather not wait another would it be possible for them to check my records education and such now? because i'm afraid
i will have to wait another year to do basic during summer.

If anyone has the answers to my question please do answer thanks.  :cdn:

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on May 03, 2017, 17:18:06

AdrianInfantry,  I accidentally clicked the Modify button in my reply to your post.
I did not edit or modify anything.  My mistake. My apologies.


Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on May 03, 2017, 18:14:19
I have merged your two threads. Please do not start new threads asking much the same questions.

Did you read the links that mariomike generously provided? If not, please do so, as Scott already requested.

We do not know where you are in the recruiting process, so it is not possible to even guess. You seem to be asking if you can be given a higher priority, though. If that is correct, then you are not likely to be so accommodated.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Danilochka on May 15, 2017, 18:49:50
Hello,

I am returning in the fall as a full-time student to a university in Edmonton. I am interested in finding out more about the Reserve Force but I don't know which unit to contact in Edmonton to learn more (there are many under 'Find a Recruiter' in forces.ca). I live 9 hours from Edmonton so I can't drop by an office. I am wondering if there is even still time to join the Reserves [if accepted] in time for summer training? Lastly, does a position under 'Find a Recruiter' have to say "(Now Hiring)" to be available?

Thanks
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: RocketRichard on May 15, 2017, 23:10:22
Hello,

I am returning in the fall as a full-time student to a university in Edmonton. I am interested in finding out more about the Reserve Force but I don't know which unit to contact in Edmonton to learn more (there are many under 'Find a Recruiter' in forces.ca). I live 9 hours from Edmonton so I can't drop by an office. I am wondering if there is even still time to join the Reserves [if accepted] in time for summer training? Lastly, does a position under 'Find a Recruiter' have to say "(Now Hiring)" to be available?

Thanks
Just sent you a PM.


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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: BeyondTheNow on May 16, 2017, 22:26:08
Hello,

I am returning in the fall as a full-time student to a university in Edmonton. I am interested in finding out more about the Reserve Force but I don't know which unit to contact in Edmonton to learn more (there are many under 'Find a Recruiter' in forces.ca). I live 9 hours from Edmonton so I can't drop by an office. I am wondering if there is even still time to join the Reserves [if accepted] in time for summer training? Lastly, does a position under 'Find a Recruiter' have to say "(Now Hiring)" to be available?

Thanks

I can't speak for approximate PRes recruiting durations in Edmonton, but if they're similar to my neck of the woods (31 Brigade--well, our unit was recently moved to 32) it's highly unlikely you'll make it in time for summer training. But get a hold of a recruiter and decide which unit you'd like to join and get the process started. Hopefully it will be fairly straightforward for you.

http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/loyal-edmonton-regiment/index.page (http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/loyal-edmonton-regiment/index.page)

http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/41-cer/index.page (http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/41-cer/index.page)

https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=749.0 (https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=749.0)

These should get you started, good luck with school.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: RocketRichard on May 16, 2017, 23:51:07
I can't speak for approximate PRes recruiting durations in Edmonton, but if they're similar to my neck of the woods (31 Brigade--well, our unit was recently moved to 32) it's highly unlikely you'll make it in time for summer training. But get a hold of a recruiter and decide which unit you'd like to join and get the process started. Hopefully it will be fairly straightforward for you.

http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/loyal-edmonton-regiment/index.page (http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/loyal-edmonton-regiment/index.page)

http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/41-cer/index.page (http://www.army-armee.forces.gc.ca/en/41-cer/index.page)

https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=749.0 (https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=749.0)

These should get you started, good luck with school.
Still possible here at 41 Brigade but if applicants want to get on BMQ this summer applications need to be submitted now.


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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: capitalkid on June 21, 2017, 22:38:40
Hello, I recently contacted my local recruiter from a reserve unit and started the application process for a part time infantry soldier, I met for an interview and everything seemed to have went well, I was told I would need photo id, high school transcripts and a birth certificate, I was also told where the physical test would take place. I was just wondering, am I supposed to receive any forms to fill out? because I have not received any and I have not received any response from the recruiter. Does this mean I am no longer being considered for the position? because I assumed that I would have been told so and they wouldn't have asked me to gather these documents and where the physical test was.

Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: SRidders on June 22, 2017, 10:54:04
The best thing for you to do is contact the point person during your recruitment process. Get used to using the Chain of Command for inquiries like this. Only from an official source can you gain accurate information. Any other information you gather from other sources will be unofficial.

The individual who you deal with as a potential recruit is there to help you along the way. Use them as such.

Hello, I recently contacted my local recruiter from a reserve unit and started the application process for a part time infantry soldier, I met for an interview and everything seemed to have went well, I was told I would need photo id, high school transcripts and a birth certificate, I was also told where the physical test would take place. I was just wondering, am I supposed to receive any forms to fill out? because I have not received any and I have not received any response from the recruiter. Does this mean I am no longer being considered for the position? because I assumed that I would have been told so and they wouldn't have asked me to gather these documents and where the physical test was.

Thank you for your time.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Buck_HRA on June 22, 2017, 12:40:09
Army Reserve units are in charge of their own recruiting, while the CFRC's do give assistance (in regards to the CFAT, medical, etc); it's the Reserve Unit that chooses their own applicants.  My advice is to go into the reserve unit and try to speak with the recruiter you originally did or ask to speak with if they're currently on tasking.

Note that most reserve units go to minimum manning as of the beginning of June and go away on summer training and don't operate at full capacity again until September.  This could very well be why you're not hearing back from the recruiter.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: milkduds85 on June 23, 2017, 20:44:37
Hey guys,

I'm drawing a complete blank from the info session I attended  for the Reserves. The physical test we have to pass is now just the FORCE test? Not the old push up/sit up/run standard? A friend of mine is helping me with getting in shape and would like the specifics so we know how far I have to go. Thanks!
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on June 23, 2017, 21:08:51
The physical test we have to pass is now just the FORCE test?

See,

Reserves FORCE test
https://www.google.ca/search?q=pres+force+test&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=2KxNWcGsO-afXs6vm9gO&gws_rd=ssl#q=site:army.ca+reserves++%22force+test%22&spf=1498262744130

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of information.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: milkduds85 on June 23, 2017, 21:43:05
@mariomike,

I have email inquiries in to recruiting for various questions but I was hoping for a quicker answer.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: RocketRichard on June 23, 2017, 23:50:05
@mariomike,

I have email inquiries in to recruiting for various questions but I was hoping for a quicker answer.
See the link. All good info.

https://www.cfmws.com/en/aboutus/psp/dfit/fitness/forceprogram/pages/about-the-force-program.aspx


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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on June 23, 2017, 23:54:02
See the link. All good info.

https://www.cfmws.com/en/aboutus/psp/dfit/fitness/forceprogram/pages/about-the-force-program.aspx

More good info,

Fitness for Operational Requirements of CF Employment (FORCE)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=106313.325
35 pages.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: asekhon010 on July 06, 2017, 23:55:26
Hey guys i want to join the army reserves how would i do so? Im 16 btw

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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: asekhon010 on July 07, 2017, 00:04:24
Hi i want to join the reserves as an infantry soldier, im 16 and i live in ontario what should i do to join?

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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Buck_HRA on July 11, 2017, 10:29:55
You will need to speak with a Recruiter at a Local Unit.
http://www.forces.ca/en/centres/findarecruiter-110
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: BeyondTheNow on July 16, 2017, 22:16:17
Hey guys i want to join the army reserves how would i do so? Im 16 btw

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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: ncolt on July 17, 2017, 14:10:31
Hi there. Can anyone describe to me a typical week doing PT1 in Meaford ON, with the Reserves (GGFG's OTTAWA)? I'm signing up and would like some kind of heads-up, if possible. Thanks!
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: 1984UKlife on July 24, 2017, 16:29:59
I have been looking into joining up with the reserves locally in Calgary and like the part time aspect of BMQ, I am finding however that most of the trades require a full-time training requirement in Borden for the months of July and August, which isn't really doable for me.
I wondered if there are any trades that complete ALL training part time in Calgary?

Thanks.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: RocketRichard on July 24, 2017, 18:26:38
I have been looking into joining up with the reserves locally in Calgary and like the part time aspect of BMQ, I am finding however that most of the trades require a full-time training requirement in Borden for the months of July and August, which isn't really doable for me.
I wondered if there are any trades that complete ALL training part time in Calgary?

Thanks.

Hello:

Highly unlikely.  If you are interested in the Army Reserve call 403 310 ARMY.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Buck_HRA on July 27, 2017, 11:15:42
Hi there. Can anyone describe to me a typical week doing PT1 in Meaford ON, with the Reserves (GGFG's OTTAWA)? I'm signing up and would like some kind of heads-up, if possible.
Your best bet is to speak with the recruiter at GGFG or ask to speak with someone who has recently done the training.  Last time I worked as a Recruiter for a Reserve Unit I welcomed new applicants to come in and speak with individuals who recently did the training.  Reason for this is that even though I was a recruiter I did my Basic Course in the 90's and things have definitely changed.

I have been looking into joining up with the reserves locally in Calgary and like the part time aspect of BMQ, I am finding however that most of the trades require a full-time training requirement in Borden for the months of July and August, which isn't really doable for me.
I wondered if there are any trades that complete ALL training part time in Calgary?
Thanks.

I can't think of any occupation that allows the occupation training to be done part-time.  If you were to join an occupation that you are fully qualified in on the civilian side, then possibly a PLAR (Prior Learning Assessment) could be completed to allow you to bypass occupation training.  But eventually you'd need to do other courses in your career that require full time attendance.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Joe321 on August 13, 2017, 18:59:39
Hello folks. I applied to the army around 3 years ago, did the testing and qualified for every non officer job. Around 2 years ago I was offered a full time position as a resource management support clerk, but I declined at the last second right before the ceremony. I've regretted it ever since, sometimes even almost to the point of depression. I thought I could enjoy life without the military doing a routine job and earning 60-70k year, and that money could make me happy, I was wrong. I came to find out my life has zero excitement or purpose without the military, and that I don't mind the discipline. I reapplied shortly after rejecting the offer but haven't heard back. I am currently 28 years old and I'm looking to join the military in almost any way. My ultimate goal is full time work in the military, probably something like Resource management clerk... maybe even an officer down the road if I finish my degree. I heard it's easier to get full time if you go through reserves first, so that's what I'm currently looking into... the reserves. Any advice on what I should apply for?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: PuckChaser on August 13, 2017, 19:13:09
If you want a full time job, join the RegF. The reserves is not an easier nor faster way in.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on August 13, 2017, 19:15:06
Around 2 years ago I was offered a full time position as a resource management support clerk, but I declined at the last second right before the ceremony.

This may help,

Declining an offer (merged)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=104645.0
3 pages.

I heard it's easier to get full time if you go through reserves first, so that's what I'm currently looking into... the reserves.

You can read how easy, or not so easy, it was for others here,

Component Transfers (Reserve to Regular): Q&A
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=12797.0
51 pages.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: BeyondTheNow on August 15, 2017, 12:51:31
Hello folks. I applied to the army around 3 years ago, did the testing and qualified for every non officer job. Around 2 years ago I was offered a full time position as a resource management support clerk, but I declined at the last second right before the ceremony. I've regretted it ever since, sometimes even almost to the point of depression. I thought I could enjoy life without the military doing a routine job and earning 60-70k year, and that money could make me happy, I was wrong. I came to find out my life has zero excitement or purpose without the military, and that I don't mind the discipline. I reapplied shortly after rejecting the offer but haven't heard back. I am currently 28 years old and I'm looking to join the military in almost any way. My ultimate goal is full time work in the military, probably something like Resource management clerk... maybe even an officer down the road if I finish my degree. I heard it's easier to get full time if you go through reserves first, so that's what I'm currently looking into... the reserves. Any advice on what I should apply for?

Thanks in advance.

Absolutely take to heart what PC said--PRes is definitely not easier nor faster. I'm quite taken aback at times with the differences between the two and how things are done. As with many issues, certain things may vary from unit to unit, but there are negatives (and positives) to both PRes and RegF.

In terms of straightforward, full time/steady employment, right into RegF is the way to go IMO. You get enrolled, head to BMQ, (if you're going clerk) you'll head to Borden after basic, then you'll get posted. All the while you're earning a steady paycheque (- costs for R&Q when applicable), good benefits, your yearly raises as you progress as Pte are substantial, etc.

If you go PRes, your local Reg't enrolls you, you'll get paid for parading and any exercises that your unit takes part in. Pay is either a session or a full day's pay depending on how long you're working on that particular day. If you go on course you'll get paid for every day of the course, but that ends as soon as your course ends. You only work (taskings) when work is available and there can be competition for available taskings. Moving up in rank can be less straightforward and more lengthy depending on how well your local unit flows. If you eventually (and I use eventually very loosely, because there is competition for them) land a Class 'B'/'BA' contract (so full-time), your position is up for grabs after the contract has ended--you need to reapply--it's not 100% guaranteed that you would get to hold the position again.

That being said, there are many who greatly enjoy Primary Reserve and there are those who don't. There are many who greatly enjoy Regular Force and those who don't. As I said, there are pros and cons to each, but for me personally, RegF is most beneficial.

Out of curiosity, how do you know only the military can bring "excitement and purpose" to your life? There are so many factors that contribute to the type of career you think you might be getting into. Remember that.

Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Buck_HRA on August 18, 2017, 10:55:49
I reapplied shortly after rejecting the offer but haven't heard back.
From the sounds of your statement you reapplied 3 years ago and haven't heard back, that is not normal.  You should follow up with the CFRC in your area, traditionally files are closed after 1 year of no contact with an applicant.  I am inclined to think that your file is currently closed. 

Resource management clerk... maybe even an officer down the road if I finish my degree.

Just a heads up, that occupation no longer exists.  You would need to decide on Human Resource Administrator (HRA) or Financial Services Administrator (FSA).

My ultimate goal is full time work in the military.....heard it's easier to get full time if you go through reserves first

This has been covered by other posters, but absolutely not!

While it may be easier to join the Reserve than the Regular Force (please the thread from mariomike's post, everyone's experience is different in regards to ease of joining), but if you're looking for full-time employment this is NOT the route to take. 

To be employed full time as a Reservist you will need to complete Basic Training (BMQ), your applicable environmental course (i.e. BMQ-L for Army, NETP for Navy), plus complete your first trades course.  The trade courses for FSA/HRA are still in their infancy stage and not being run often yet.  For the average Reserve member, they do not reach a point of being occupationally qualified for full-time employment until either their 2nd or 3rd summer in the CAF.  This means that you're waiting 2-3 years before you're eligible to apply for full-time employment.  Which leads to my next point, full-time employment as a Regular Force member is guaranteed. Full-time employment for a Reservist never is, Reserves have to compete for their positions and each contract is a maximum of 3 years in length, which means even if you do get employment after 3 years the position has to go out for competition again.  Yes there is full-time work for Reservists but it is not guaranteed...
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Joe321 on August 24, 2017, 14:45:23
Thanks. Okay, I see. Yeah I searched for Resource management support clerk and couldn't find it anymore. I thought that was odd. Human Resource Administrator (HRA) or Financial Services Administrator (FSA) sounds great, I guess I'll try reapplying for that. In the meantime is there anything I could do to improve my chances? I don't care if I get in by the time I'm 30, it's worth it. I'm thinking of finishing my accounting college diploma online.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on August 24, 2017, 14:52:24
I searched for Resource management support clerk and couldn't find it anymore.

Human Resource Admin Clerk (HRA Clk)
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,123044.0.html

Fin Clerk
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=123045.0
3 pages.

RMS Clerk Trade 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=121928.0

Information on RMS Clerks?? 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=84270.0

Clerk
https://www.google.ca/search?q=site%3Aarmy.ca+clerk&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-CA:IE-Address&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7GGHP_en-GBCA592&gfe_rd=cr&ei=gROfWayhC-OfXpbMi4AC&gws_rd=ssl

In the meantime is there anything I could do to improve my chances?

How can I increase my chances 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,97201.0/nowap.html

Tips on how to become a recruit 
https://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=31044.0
3 pages.

See also,

OP: Joe321
worth joining right now?
http://milnet.ca/forums/index.php/topic,120163.msg1388035.html#msg1388035
"I'm eying the rms clerk position"
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Patrick N. on August 26, 2017, 22:32:32
Hello, I'm in my late 20s, holding a Bachelor degree in Computer Science and no criminal records. Am I still allow to join?

People told me if I'm interested, then it's better to start in the reserve first. I wonder if they are right or not?

If I join, what documents should I provide?
If I join, do I have to apply to a job position or do I just simply apply and someone will assign me to a position?
How does a day of a reservist look like? How the schedule looks like?
Do reservists stay at a military base or they can return to their own home?
Beside the basic training test, do reservists will learn how to fight opponents or how to defend?
Is it bad to join if I wear glasses?
What should I expect when joining?

Thank you for your patience.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Ryan_T on August 26, 2017, 22:34:57
Hello, I'm in my late 20s, holding a Bachelor degree in Computer Science and no criminal records. Am I still allow to join?

People told me if I'm interested, then it's better to start in the reserve first. I wonder if they are right or not?

If I join, what documents should I provide?
If I join, do I have to apply to a job position or do I just simply apply and someone will assign me to a position?
How does a day of a reservist look like? How the schedule looks like?
Do reservists stay at a military base or they can return to their own home?
Beside the basic training test, do reservists will learn how to fight opponents or how to defend?
Is it bad to join if I wear glasses?
What should I expect when joining?

If my questions offend some of you, I'm sorry. No offense intended.

Thank you for your patience.
If you want p/t work, then sure reserves, but if you want f/t work, go reg force


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Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Ayrsayle on August 26, 2017, 23:29:08
Hello, I'm in my late 20s, holding a Bachelor degree in Computer Science and no criminal records. Am I still allow to join?

People told me if I'm interested, then it's better to start in the reserve first. I wonder if they are right or not?

If I join, what documents should I provide?
If I join, do I have to apply to a job position or do I just simply apply and someone will assign me to a position?
How does a day of a reservist look like? How the schedule looks like?
Do reservists stay at a military base or they can return to their own home?
Beside the basic training test, do reservists will learn how to fight opponents or how to defend?
Is it bad to join if I wear glasses?
What should I expect when joining?

Thank you for your patience.

www.forces.ca should answer a good number of these questions - or taking a look at any number of topics in recruiting on this thread.

To answer some that might be harder to find:
- Your vision will be evaluated during your application process. This may prevent you from a specific (or any) trade you wish to be employed in.
- Reservists and Regular Force members typically have the same training standard, one does the job part time and the other full time.  Both receive basic training in how to use a service rifle.  You will learn how to "fight", but that looks slightly different depending on the job and the courses you might take after becoming qualified.

All the other questions are very easily answered at www.forces.ca and on this website - you will need to take a look at the wealth of knowledge already here.

Good luck!
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on August 27, 2017, 05:19:02
Welcome to Army.ca, Patrick N.

There is a ton of information about almost any topic relating to the Canadian Armed Forces (and loads more about other topics) on this Site.

Your questions have all been asked and answered here before, sometimes many, many times.

Please explore the relevant older threads prior to asking more questions. We expect people to do their homework. This keeps (some of) the clutter down, which makes life easier for those who do search for information and the Directing Staff who do our best to keep things tidy, saves other people from spending their valuable time repeating answers, and improves the question-asker's learning experience. By searching, you will likely stumble upon answers to questions before those questions even occur to you.

Should you not fully understand something, or, even after the most rigorous search, not find an answer, then, by all means, ask. We are a helpful bunch, but we also have busy lives of our own to lead.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: mariomike on August 27, 2017, 12:58:12
Do reservists stay at a military base or they can return to their own home?

See Reply #69,

Is it possible to live off base if I apply and get accepted into the reserves?

As always,  Recruiting is your most trusted source of up to date information.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: OutgoingCanasian96 on August 30, 2017, 02:44:03
Good day just got a question for everyone in the forum.  I am a 20-year-old male university student who is trying to join the Canadian reserves sometime within the next few years but I have some conflicting interests as I am also currently vying to get Dual citizenship with the United States and Canada. I am currently a Canadian citizen with US permanent residence status and I am scheduled to receive citizenship with the US in 2 years. I plan on living primary in Canada and wish to serve our great nation through military service and thus had submitted an application about two months ago but I would also like to keep my opinions open in selecting a post-graduate opportunity in the United States if such an opportunity arises. After talking to an SSG affiliated with the 33 Brigade located in Ottawa, I found out that if my application to the Canadain forces is accepted, I practically forfeit all chance of getting US citizenship and may even be barred from renewing my permanent residency. Thus I am at an impasse, should I temporarily withdraw my application and reapply after gaining my dual citizenship status or is there a method in which I can appeal to the US ICE department to work something out? If you don't know the answer but know of someone in the forces or federal government to whom I can receive information, please post on the name or department I should reach out to. Cheers!
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Loachman on August 30, 2017, 03:12:12
Welcome to Army.ca, OutgoingCanasian96

What's an "SSG"? If you are using the US Army abbreviation for Staff Sergeant, please be aware that we do not have Staff Sergeants in the Canadian Forces, and we do not use US abbreviations.

I would be rather leery of taking advice about US citizenship matters from such a person, anyway. That is best had from a competent US authority.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: OutgoingCanasian96 on August 30, 2017, 08:27:46
Thank you Loachman for the quick reply, and I am indeed referring in an American Staff Sargeant as I was connected to him via a friend of mine from my university who is a Pte. (T) in the 30th Field Artillery. I had asked several questions to the SSG regarding how the security check process of my application to the Canadian Forces might go about and how long the process may take. It was during this informal information session that the SSG stated that I may lose my opportunity to receive an American citizenship as the application to Canada's Armed Forces would complicate the American naturalization process ie. invalidate perquisites to receive citizenship like the Selective Service Act obligation. I also do agree that this information is most likely not complete accurately and that I should seek the proper authorities for more definitive answers, as such I had gotten in contact with the US Embassy on Sussex Dr. and they had given me some contacts in the US ICE Department and DOD but American being America, I have been practically congested with the mechanisms of bureaucracy as each person or administrative dept. I contact just gives me more contacts and two weeks later I am just more confused. Thus, I am hoping to get some possible leads on the Canadian side as I am too irritated to continue this goose chase.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Buck_HRA on August 30, 2017, 12:59:19
No one in the CAF (unless a lawyer) or Recruiting should be giving you advice on citizenship issues.
The only advice we're allowed to give is that you must be a Canadian Citizen to join the CAF.

One thing I want to reiterate that Loachman already stated, you've said you were talking to a Canadian Sergeant "After talking to an SSG affiliated with the 33 Brigade located in Ottawa".  The abbreviation is not SSG, we do not have SSG's in the CAF.  We do have "Sgt".

Unofficially I have served alongside at least 3 Reservists that I know of that had dual citizenship (US/Canada).
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: OutgoingCanasian96 on September 04, 2017, 06:28:48
Buck_HRA, would there be an individual in the Recruitment Center at 66 Slater St. (Ottawa branch) be able to answer my line of inquiry or would I have to seek a more specialized legal professional that has knowledge pertaining to the military?

And to those who read my statements, sorry for the confusion! I should have specifically stated in the first inquiry box that the statement "After talking to an SSG affiliated with the 33 Brigade located in Ottawa" should have stated a US SSG that is personally affiliated (friends) with several members of the 33rd. I apologize for any misunderstanding that may have occurred due to bad communication on my part.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Blackadder1916 on September 04, 2017, 10:19:11
Buck_HRA, would there be an individual in the Recruitment Center at 66 Slater St. (Ottawa branch) be able to answer my line of inquiry or would I have to seek a more specialized legal professional that has knowledge pertaining to the military?

And to those who read my statements, sorry for the confusion! I should have specifically stated in the first inquiry box that the statement "After talking to an SSG affiliated with the 33 Brigade located in Ottawa" should have stated a US SSG that is personally affiliated (friends) with several members of the 33rd. I apologize for any misunderstanding that may have occurred due to bad communication on my part.

A little more information could be helpful for those on these means who may be able to advise you.

Do you currently reside in the United States and, if so, do you intend continuing to live there, at least in the short term such as for university?
Is your plan to join the CF Reserves and "commute" to fulfill  any attendance obligations?
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: OutgoingCanasian96 on September 04, 2017, 19:02:58
I currently have my primary, albeit temporary, residence in Canada as I am enrolled as a full-time student at Carleton University. Officially, however, my residence is stated as my parent's house in the United States, and I visit here every six months at minimum to fulfill the requirements of citizenship, as a resident must stay in the US for five years with periods of foreign residence no longer than six months.

For the foreseeable future, I am going to be spending at least 9 out of the 12 months of the year in Canada, and ideally, I would like to be accepted to an Ontario Graduate school and primarily reside in Canada. In regards to my military aspirations, I intend to take my courses at a military base while temporary being barracked there during academic breaks.
Title: Re: QUESTIONS about JOINING THE RESERVES
Post by: Oldgateboatdriver on September 05, 2017, 10:37:49
Good morning OutgoingCanasian:

I can see from the convoluted way you are asking questions that you are in University, and destined for post graduate studies.  :nod:

I re-read all your posts, and basically, you only have one question:

"I am a Canadian citizen with American permanent residency (green card) for the next two years until I can get my American citizenship. I am currently studying in Canada and wish to join the Canadian Armed Forces reserves. What effect will that have on my capacity to get my American citizenship?"

See how easy it would have been!

Here's the answer you need to hear and heed:

Your question is - not repeat not - a recruiting question. The only recruiting aspect of import is that to join the CAF reserves, you have to be a Canadian citizen, and you already are. As such, there's nobody in the CAF, and I suspect in the US Armed Forces, to provide you advice on your question, and definitely no one at the sergeant / staff sergeant level.

Your question is a US immigration question.  So here is the only person that can give you an answer: A US immigration lawyer. Go and consult one. If you don't know where to look, consult with your closest US embassy or consulate. I am sure they can point you to such lawyers.

Good luck.