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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #100 on: April 11, 2015, 18:41:20 »
Does anyone know what defines a bedroom within current IR policy?  I would expect that a second bedroom made into a study might be a stretch but an advertised I bedroom plus den might sound more reasonable.  Are there any factors such as windows, closets or square footage that would distinguish a bedroom from a den?  Is there a national guidance or is it a base to base thing?  Any experiences or suggestions?  My destination for IR is Kingston if that helps.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #101 on: April 12, 2015, 14:01:10 »
Does anyone know what defines a bedroom within current IR policy?  I would expect that a second bedroom made into a study might be a stretch but an advertised I bedroom plus den might sound more reasonable.  Are there any factors such as windows, closets or square footage that would distinguish a bedroom from a den?  Is there a national guidance or is it a base to base thing?  Any experiences or suggestions?  My destination for IR is Kingston if that helps.

Generally a bedroom has a closet and a window. If it lacks either of those, I think then it's technically a den. From looking at rental properties, you can't call something a bedroom unless it has a proper egress window (ie designed that a person could escape from it in an emergency)

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #102 on: April 12, 2015, 14:08:16 »
From looking at rental properties, you can't call something a bedroom unless it has a proper egress window (ie designed that a person could escape from it in an emergency)

I'm not familiar with the Ontario Building Code. But, out of curiosity, I read this ( for what it is worth ):

"This may come as a surprise to many people, or a relief to those looking to add a bedroom in the basement, but contrary to the National Building Code and popular brief ( sic ), a bedroom in Ontario does not require an egress window in the actual bedroom! As long as there is an egress window or door to the exterior somewhere on the level, the requirements for egress have been met. However, there are still light and ventilation requirements for each bedroom that must be met, but that is another topic."
http://www.seacliffhomeinspections.com/egress.php



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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #103 on: April 12, 2015, 16:41:52 »
Just wondering what those administering IR are using as a reference.  I am looking at a one bedroom plus den.  The den has French doors, no window or closet.  I would use it for a work study area, not a bedroom.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #104 on: April 14, 2015, 10:32:13 »
From my experience, if your lease calls it a one bedroom apartment, then you are okay. Unless thngs have changed, no one actually goes out to inspect your living quarters to check they fall within the regulations.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #105 on: May 24, 2015, 09:35:38 »
Hi there!
Hoping one of you fine people can help me with a couple of questions I have about IR. We're having a hard time selling our house and the kids are I are going to stay while hubby goes IR until it sells. We will then proceed onto the new posting together and purchase (maybe rent - we're going to Toronto) a new home.

I understand the rules about a one bedroom apartment, and that rent is the ONLY thing reimbursed, however I'm wondering what happens if hubby has to sign a lease to attain said accommodations. If we need the apartment for a shorter time than the lease specifies (I hope we will) will the CF cover the lease breaking penalties? Are we expected to find something month-to-month? I've seen a few questions about furnished vs. unfurnished accommodations, will we be allowed a small move of things to furnish an apartment, or do we have to get something furnished?

Thanks for any and all help you can give me!

IRSpouse :nod:

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #106 on: May 24, 2015, 09:40:49 »
will the CF cover the lease breaking penalties?

Lease Liability 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,99290.0/nowap.html

we're going to Toronto)

Lease Liability for Ontario IRP 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=117693.0

I've seen a few questions about furnished vs. unfurnished accommodations, will we be allowed a small move of things to furnish an apartment, or do we have to get something furnished?

IR - furniture rental 
http://army.ca/forums/index.php?topic=108573.0

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"If you're going to Toronto, I give high recommendations to IR Solutions."
http://irsolutions.ca/
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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #107 on: May 24, 2015, 12:50:07 »
I know this has been beaten to death but has anything come down the pipes regarding changes to PLD or a current list of PLD rates?

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #108 on: May 24, 2015, 15:39:38 »
I know this has been beaten to death but has anything come down the pipes regarding changes to PLD or a current list of PLD rates?

No changes have been announced yet (although changes are expected, eventually).

The rates are as published in CBI 205, no change from Tcm621's post two years ago.

http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-policies-standards-benefits/ch-205-officer-ncm-allowance-rates.page
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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #109 on: May 24, 2015, 15:47:57 »
The independent review was due 1 Apr 15. We'll see revised rates probably not before 1 Apr 16, or pushing into Apr 17. Thus is Treasury Board.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #110 on: April 12, 2016, 20:15:59 »
Can anyone advise me on the current IR policy, what is and isn't covered?

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #111 on: April 13, 2016, 18:54:32 »
Can anyone advise me on the current IR policy, what is and isn't covered?

Read CBI 208.997  http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/about-policies-standards-benefits-relocation/ch-208-relocation-benefits.page

Basically, rent up to a maximum which varies by city, parking costs up to $100, and the connection charges (but not the monthly cost) of cable / internet.

Oh, and LTA once a year to see your family.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #112 on: April 13, 2016, 19:24:49 »
Thanks. Do you always have the choice to live outside or is it base depending? Covers heat, lights, etc?

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #113 on: April 13, 2016, 20:36:23 »
Thanks. Do you always have the choice to live outside or is it base depending?

Depending on the area, but some places are really cold outside in the winter.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #114 on: April 13, 2016, 20:43:00 »
Lol...how did I know that would be a reply....let me try again. Do you have the choice to live off base or do you have to use military accommodations?

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #115 on: April 13, 2016, 20:59:28 »
Thanks. Do you always have the choice to live outside or is it base depending? Covers heat, lights, etc?

Best to check with the base you're going to.  997(7) says quarters if they are available, though I don't see how they can obligate you live without cooking facilities as they are not contributing a cent toward your food bill.

997.9 - Non-Commercial Accommodations - does include utilities and furniture rental, but the total of rent and those other expenses is still capped at the rate posted for your city. I remember seeing a list somewhere that defined what furniture you were allowed to rent; pretty standard fare, you couldn't choose to go cheap or skip entirely on some things so that you could squeeze a hot tub rental into the budget.

I opted to go the furnished apartment route, and found a basement suite in someone's house that included washer and dryer, cable, and internet, and still came in under the rent ceiling. I didn't want to be incurring any more extra monthly expenses, as there's no way around the fact that you'll be spending more to feed your family out of two kitchens than one.


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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #116 on: April 13, 2016, 21:08:52 »
Lol...how did I know that would be a reply....let me try again. Do you have the choice to live off base or do you have to use military accommodations?

I apologize, but sometimes low hanging fruit just can't be left on the tree.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #117 on: April 14, 2016, 18:16:55 »
Lol true. If you are on IR do you get PLD?

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #118 on: April 14, 2016, 18:39:25 »
Lol true. If you are on IR do you get PLD?

Not for the new location, though you continue to collect it at the old location (if it is a PLD area). Also, from a tax perspective, CRA deems you to be a resident of the province where you have most residential ties, so if your home and your family are in the old province, and you're renting an apartment in a new province, you should likely be filing under the old province. (Ultimately up to you where you file, but if they catch something they don't think is right...)

Where are you going from / to?  PM if desired.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #119 on: April 14, 2016, 19:10:09 »
Thanks. Pm sent

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #120 on: May 20, 2016, 23:10:08 »
Hello everyone. I am hoping someone out there is familiar with Restricted posting (Service Couple) Everybody calls it IR, but it isn't apparently. Anyway, I am posted to Comox, and my wife isn't. I am being told there is no requirement for a HHT as there are quarters available. Where can I find the type of quarters required for IR? I am pretty sure there's a kitchen requirement but I can't find the reference. I have a few more questions specific to Service couples, but they are specific to my situation, so if someone would be willing to off line comms that would be great.

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Re: Questions about current IR - Imposed Restriction Benefits and PLD
« Reply #121 on: May 21, 2016, 08:46:57 »
Hello everyone. I am hoping someone out there is familiar with Restricted posting (Service Couple) Everybody calls it IR, but it isn't apparently. Anyway, I am posted to Comox, and my wife isn't. I am being told there is no requirement for a HHT as there are quarters available. Where can I find the type of quarters required for IR? I am pretty sure there's a kitchen requirement but I can't find the reference. I have a few more questions specific to Service couples, but they are specific to my situation, so if someone would be willing to off line comms that would be great.

K, you're right that it technically isn't IR when it comes to an MSC split to different locations.  Some call it SB-YOYO (sorry buds, you're on your own) for the manner in which the CAF cares for MSCs.  It its coldest, pure factual dealing with the situation, the CAF considers you and your spouse as independently self-supporting family members, so I'm not sure you get much more than a "you can get a free room in the shacks if you want, if there are some available," but when I was last at a line unit (on IR - got free shacks, but nothing else (SE/separation expense was long dead at that point) - at lease we were eventually allowed to opt out of the stupidly expensive base feeding meal plan when R&Q was officially decoupled) 

I recall what you are referring to about the kitchenette, etc... but I think that now applies only to IR (not separately locates MSCs on Restricted Posting), so you may be getting as much as you're going to get with the "We have shacks, take it or leave it, no HHT/DIT....although I thought DIT still applied....best to check, but I believe CFIRP 2009-2016 still applies:  Section 4.03

4.02 Purpose
[abridged]
The purpose of a DIT (destination inspection trip) is to:
- visit the new place of duty and provide the opportunity to:
  • inspecting replacement residences
  • inspect purchased property
  • finalize school arrangement
  • arrange specific medical requirements / specialized care; or
  • make administrative arrangements related to the pending relocation

4.03 Entitlement

CF members who have ...are entitled to ...
- not secured accommodation at the new place of duty   
- already secured accommodation, purchased property, or officially contracted for the construction of a replacement residence
- an HHT.- a DIT.


That said, it is more than a year since I had to go rummaging through the policies on this one, so some other folks may be closer to the pulse on current policies of 'support', K.

Good luck and thanks for your continued service doing what you do! :nod:

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