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Offline airmich

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References
« on: April 29, 2007, 19:24:54 »
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime."  How about: "Give a member the regulation and you've answered his question, this time anyway.  Give him the references to look them up himself and it saves bandwidth here!"

I've noticed that many of the questions on the boards are "what is the regulation for this", or "where would I find out about this" etc.  While many people on this board know where to look for these, and sometimes enjoy the hunt for the obscure, the member is not learning from this.  In the work environment, I always handed the pub to someone asking me a question like that and have him research it on his own.  It's amazing how much you can learn from doing this.

But I am aware that many people either don't have the access to some references, or wouldn't know the reference if it hit them on the head, or even know where to begin.  In talking with Mike, I suggested that these be provided on the board for easier access.  I know that there are more that would also be beneficial, but here are some to get everyone started. Over time, you will get used to what can be found in each area.  Until then, enjoy the hunt!

~ CFAO's - Canadian Forces Administrative Orders

~ QR&O's - Queen's Regulations and Orders
     these are broken down into 4 Volumes: Administrative, Disciplinary, Financial and Appendices

~ DAOD's - Defence Administrative Orders and Directives

~ CBI's - Compensation and Benefit Instructions
     "These instructions contain policy and administrative information related to the issue of pay and allowances, reimbursement for
     travel, and other expenses arising out of military service as applicable to CF members.Where appropriate, instructions have
     replaced articles repealed from Queen's Regulations and Orders."


~ ADM (HR-Mil) Instructions
     "ADM(HR-Mil) Instructions serve as a formal means of advising all Canadian Forces personnel of administrative direction and
     procedural aspects of policy and/or directions emanating from within ADM(HR-Mil) and not considered suitable for publication
     as a DAOD."
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 07:24:33 by George Wallace »
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Re: References
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2007, 10:23:34 »
~ Canadian Forces Integrated  Relocation Program http://www.forces.gc.ca/dgcb/dcba/engraph/CF_Integrated_Relocation_Program_e.asp?sidesection=2&sidecat=99

~ Canadian Forces Temporary Duty Travel Instruction (CFTDTI) http://www.dnd.ca/dgcb/dcba/engraph/download_e.asp?docid=67&sidesection=2&sidecat=7

~  MILITARY FOREIGN SERVICE INSTRUCTIONS (MFSI's are a subset of CBI's but often forgotten)  http://www.dnd.ca/dgcb/cbi/engraph/home_e.asp?sidesection=6&sidecat=17&chapter=10

~ Treasury Board Travel Directive of Canada http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/pubs_pol/hrpubs/tbm_113/td-dv_e.asp


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Re: References
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2007, 10:28:00 »
Other ref's are not available on the Internet such as the APM 245, and others I could not find on it as the DDIO's.
~ ADM (HR-Mil) Instructions
     "ADM(HR-Mil) Instructions serve as a formal means of advising all Canadian Forces personnel of administrative direction and
     procedural aspects of policy and/or directions emanating from within ADM(HR-Mil) and not considered suitable for publication
     as a DAOD."
To be perfectly accurate it should read Chief of Military Personnel Instructions (Formerly ADM (HR-MIL)), the internet werbsite simply has not been updated.

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Re: References
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2007, 20:56:42 »
I always handed the pub to someone asking me a question like that and have him research it on his own.  It's amazing how much you can learn from doing this.


Mich, thats awfully SIG of you, I used to do it all the time (still do)

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Re: References
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2007, 10:22:53 »
~ Canadian Forces Publications (CFPs)
    This link is only accessible through the DIN.  It has the PDF files for (*note: some pubs are not completely available yet in electronic format):
  > A-AD-200-000/AG-00 - Honours, Flags and Heritage Structure of the Canadian Forces
  > A-PD-201-000/PT-000 - Canadian Forces Manual of Drill and Ceremonial
  > A-AD-265-000/AG-001 - Canadian Forces Dress Instructions
  > A-AD-266/AG-001 - Canadian Forces Museums: Operations and Administration.
  > A-AD-267-000/AF-000 - Insignia and Lineages of the Canadian Forces
  > A-JS-007-DHH/AF-001 - Canadian Military History Since the 17th Century
  > A-JS-007-DHH/AX-001 - Canadian Forces Museum Directory
  > A-JS-007-002/JD-000 - The Traditions and Customs of the Canadian Forces
  > A-PD-202-001/FP-000 - Canadian Forces Military Bands and Marches
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Re: References
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2007, 10:27:24 »
~ Canadian Forces Publications (CFPs)
    This link is only accessible through the DIN.  It has the PDF files for (*note: some pubs are not completely available yet in electronic format):
  > A-AD-200-000/AG-00 - Honours, Flags and Heritage Structure of the Canadian Forces
  > A-PD-201-000/PT-000 - Canadian Forces Manual of Drill and Ceremonial
  > A-AD-265-000/AG-001 - Canadian Forces Dress Instructions
  > A-AD-266/AG-001 - Canadian Forces Museums: Operations and Administration.
  > A-AD-267-000/AF-000 - Insignia and Lineages of the Canadian Forces
  > A-JS-007-DHH/AF-001 - Canadian Military History Since the 17th Century
  > A-JS-007-DHH/AX-001 - Canadian Forces Museum Directory
  > A-JS-007-002/JD-000 - The Traditions and Customs of the Canadian Forces
  > A-PD-202-001/FP-000 - Canadian Forces Military Bands and Marches


Some of these are also available on the world wide web too.

EDITED TO ADD:

Like here Useful Links for Training
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Re: References
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2007, 11:29:42 »
Some of these are also available on the world wide web too.

EDITED TO ADD:

Like here Useful Links for Training

Good to know!  Thanks for the update Sapper.
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Re: References
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2007, 11:34:35 »
Good to know!  Thanks for the update Sapper.

NP Mich but I would assume that the DIN version might be more current than those available on the WWW.
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Re: References
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2007, 16:46:54 »
One would hope, but it's still a start for people that don't have the DIN, especially WRT all of the dress regs questions.
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Re: References
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 11:55:33 »
Anyone have a working link to a WWW version of the CFAOs?  Link above is broken and my google fu has turned up many individual CFAOs but not the whole list.
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Re: References
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2009, 13:01:42 »
They're all accessible here from the WWW.

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Re: References
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2009, 14:11:47 »
Nope been there they have DAOD and QR&Os but not the CFAOs unless I am severely missing something.
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Re: References
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2009, 16:04:57 »
Nope been there they have DAOD and QR&Os but not the CFAOs unless I am severely missing something.

You can access the CFAO's from the QR&O page.......the link is in the column on the left....on the link that I provided.
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Re: References
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2009, 16:46:43 »
Hmmm must be my internet then........I get a 404 or a blank page when I click on it.
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Re: References
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2009, 17:06:31 »
Hmmm must be my internet then........I get a 404 or a blank page when I click on it.

Nope.  Not your internet.  I am home now and my bookmarks are turning up the same thing.  Looks like the new "Common Look" has broken links on all CF webpages.
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Re: References
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2009, 17:11:56 »
Cool thanks.....will try through other avenues then.
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Re: References
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2009, 21:55:43 »
Ok I am getting tired of google.  Can some post or PM me CFAO 50-3 from the DIN.  I can find bits and pieces of it here and there but not the whole thing.

Thanks in advance.
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Re: References
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2009, 07:47:14 »
PM sent.
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Re: References
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