Author Topic: Competition List Questions (formally called Merit List) [MERGED]  (Read 188094 times)

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Ender57

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Re: How long is the merit list?
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2004, 00:51:34 »
The lists vary in length depending on how many people have past their testing and made it onto the list. As for the number selected it depends on how many openings there are for Basic Training and then for trade specific training courses. This is how it goes, as far as I know, but it's best to ask someone at a recruiting center to make sure.

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2004, 11:43:25 »
get a load of this boys , I received a phone call from the DND about a few minutes ago , so Im like this is it man the wait is over . The guy is like bla bla ummmmm what was your first choice we dont have it marked down , I am like OMG this is gonna set me back another year , but then he said that its not a problem yeah right , in utter shock basically .

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2004, 12:09:00 »
ha another phone call this time he ask me if i filled out a security clearance form i told him that i was told i didnt need to as the circumstances were set in my favour thus avoiding the lengthy clearance . This is a total meltdown of what was a smooth recruiting process at a one time , anyone have something similar. :rage:

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2004, 14:25:20 »
My medical was sent away on May 28th after it was "mishandled" for about 3 months, but I found out this morning through my bi-weekly call in that my medical file has been received from Borden  :o  ;D ;) 8).  I'm obviously happy about that.  Yet I also discovered that there is 1 more snag holding up my file :(.  It seems that after transfering CFRC's a file needs to be reviewed by (in my case) a Captain, to determine what stage of the recruiting process it's at.  I tried to tell them that if they review it for much longer that both my medical and fitness test are going to expire and set me back another minimum of 3 months.

I was met with the response that my file was with the person it needed to be with, but that since she's been away she has a mountain of work laid out for her and it could take some time to get to my file.

So now after becoming almost indifferent due to 6 months of waiting, I'm back to the high stress, crossing my fingers, and trying to will things into happening kind of waiting.

But really, my medical file returning is pretty exciting, so I'm going to forget about the other stuff for today and just enjoy the fact that my file made another baby step forward.
Next step (knock on wood) the Merit List.

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2004, 00:14:17 »
Graham sorry to hear of your troubles , makes my probs seem rather puny in comparison . I am already apparently or so they told me merit listed and I hope they fix you up with a spot as well

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2004, 16:11:44 »
ya man sorry to hear you went through so much man... make it worth it.  :salute:


Im still waiting for med to come back this week hopefully and then merit listed, hopefully everything gets done before septembers selection for infantry and ill be on my way.... please please please  :crybaby:


Good luck all in the next few weeks.

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2004, 22:43:58 »
Mav im on the same wave length as you man , I read your post in the "is this a good idea "thread, i've pretty much the same motivation for infantry , I gave up 2 letters of intent (Cal State and USC (south Carolina) to be in the position that I am now , I too figure that a university life is the choice of the mainstream up and coming "adults" , I'd rather get down and dirty then be a white collar employee if you get my drift . Its true with a degree you get the $$$ but do u get the personal satisfaction that only you can feel once you go over the top . I chose Infantry to be around people whom I can trust , im just kinda tired of the superficiality of our generation . Long story short, I'll apply myself entirely to be an elite infanteer .  :army:

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2004, 20:57:01 »
Mav im on the same wave length as you man , I read your post in the "is this a good idea "thread, i've pretty much the same motivation for infantry , I gave up 2 letters of intent (Cal State and USC (south Carolina) to be in the position that I am now , I too figure that a university life is the choice of the mainstream up and coming "adults" , I'd rather get down and dirty then be a white collar employee if you get my drift . Its true with a degree you get the $$$ but do u get the personal satisfaction that only you can feel once you go over the top . I chose Infantry to be around people whom I can trust , im just kinda tired of the superficiality of our generation . Long story short, I'll apply myself entirely to be an elite infanteer .   :army:

Personally I wouldn't have turned down scholarships. Free school,the partying, the beer and the women   ;D I mean by the time your done school your still only 22/23 and like the reserves here maybe down south is the same that alot are students. Maybe ROTC also. So best of both worlds.
They're alot of enlisted people that have degrees in the CF. When you get into the CF you should look into futuring your education. (everyone should) CF does pay for such a thing so take advantage of it. Free education, and once your done, your done and have it for life. None of us should  be bias on the education level someone has or doesn't have...we are all idiots when we are drunk but mean well LOL ;)

I'm off on vacation for a while so everyone goodluck with the merit lists, I am sure you will all hear soon.

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2004, 12:40:01 »
Naw Belkin dont get me wrong man , (needless to say my parents were less then pleased ) my recruiting officer also was like what are you doing man , to tell you the truth it just feels right . As for school I will definetely upgrade upgrade and upgrade once Im in , I do look at RMC as a  definite possiblity down the yellow brick road . Have fun on your vacation .

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2004, 21:09:37 »
I think it was said best in Blackhawk Down the movie - sorry, no im not joining because of movies like some ppl i know - but at the end the Delta guy said, when ppl ask me why i do this, no matter what i tell them they dont understand, or something along those lines.
I had my chance at a degree, full scholarship...
I havent lived with my parents since i was 12 and do not get a long with them, they do not support anything i do so i just dont talk to them..
I worked my a$$ off to get into university, but once it became the time to pay my res off, i stopped the cheque and said... think about this.

I have lived an extrordinary life up until now, no point in going with the norm. I want to serve, help, and be known as someone who did it for his friends, family and all the things in life. University woulda got me a lot of money, nice house, nice car... but if i work at this i can be proud of what i did, and since i do have a beautiful girlfriend and a car, and pretty much my own house... and im only 19. I am going all the way... my way.

The brotherhood you find in the armed forces has only been known as legendary, even in the worst of times, we stick together, not competing for the highest grades but helping eachother out to be equal. Having a few brews afterwords when we have a good day, thats what its all about.

I do not believe in God, never have since i understood it. I believe in myself and thats all i need.  :army:

No one will ever understand why we do it...

Shulaev

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2004, 08:38:26 »
maximum reespect mav !!!!!!!
I look forward to meeting you at our "hopefully" same bmq

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2004, 21:20:49 »
Good for you Maverick!

I did the same sort of thing, worked hard to put myself through college, got myself a fast car, then I start to realize I can't do the same old thing as everyone else, I need something real.  I'd rather listen to my 80 year old uncle talk about his time in world war II then listen to my 30 year old cousin talk about making $85000 a year sitting at a desk with his feet up. If I can't be proud of what I do then the job cant pay me enough to do it.

I hope to see you guys some time this fall for basic training

keep positive and like Maverick says "I believe in myself and thats all I need"

Shulaev

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Re: Anyone Placed on the Merit List yet
« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2004, 16:55:03 »
Wow another setback , my file has been transferred  from Missassauga to Toronto so there is now a bunch of new people handling it . Asked for an update the girl told me that the med file has just come in even though Missasauga has told me it came back on the 5th of this month , damn very hard to restrain yourself on the phone gotta remind meself that nothing will get accomplished if I bust out a bucket of shite for them to eat ... keep on top of them people . :army:

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Merit List
« Reply #38 on: July 26, 2004, 23:31:38 »
May I ask out there who else is finished with this process and is on the merit list?????

Cath
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Tickles

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Re: merit list
« Reply #39 on: July 27, 2004, 00:12:08 »
I was merit listed May 13 2004

my choice was regular force

1 infantry
2 combat engineer
3 aircraft structures tech

how about you? reg/reserve? choices?

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Re: merit list
« Reply #40 on: July 27, 2004, 11:48:07 »
I'm at about the 14/15 month mark in my process right now and the last time I actually spoke to someone about my file was a month or so ago, I asked at that time about the merit list and was told there is no such thing. I am awaiting a return call from the recruiting centre today hopefully, and will definately ask once again.

I applied for Reg force- Combat Engineers, seems each time I speak to someone I get different answers to the same questions.

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Re: merit list
« Reply #41 on: July 27, 2004, 13:14:55 »
Trav if they told you their is no such thing as a Merit list, they are pulling you chain.
Start calling your recruitment office every week to two week's and asking questions.

And yes i know how you feel when you say you always get a different answer,
I went through all the Malarcgy for 13 months before i got my offer, the wait was worth it.

their is a serious serious flaw in our recruitment system, No one ever seems to know whats going on, infact the day before i got my offer i was in the CFRC barrie and asked about where i stand.

I was told, that i would not hear anything at least untill september, the next day i got my call.
that just goes to show, they really have no clue other then the higher ups that you dont ever speak to.

Make sure to tell them your concern, that you have been waiting 14 months already and any other concerns, these RO's are not getting paid to feed you false info, they are getting paid to manage your application and answer every question you have the best they can, and thats somtimes still not good enough.


good luck it will be worth it in the end.
Pro Patria

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Re: merit list
« Reply #42 on: July 27, 2004, 23:58:02 »
I'm going reg for Supply Tech #1 then MseOP #2 then Traffic tech #3 and waiting!!!!!
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
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Re: merit list
« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2004, 06:01:54 »
I think that you have to remember that the recruiting system is not in place as an employment agency, you are not the client, the Canadian Forces is.  If you expect the CF to fall over itself to offer you employment you might be at the wrong place.  After 20 years in the CF and four of them in recruiting, I can confidently say the the CF has its' own interests in mind, not yours.

If you waited 12, 13, 18 months or more, there might be more to it than "they lost my file" or "it sat on someones desk."  You just might not be the best candidate for the job.  During the selection process it might be determined that you posess average military potential (MP5) and the Infantry will only hire someone at MP7 or higher, you wait untill the cows come home for an offer, in the mean time you can ***** and complain how you were mistreated or you can try to improve your military potential.

If you are waiting for an offer, you should ask your Interviewing Officer what you can do to improve your potential and suitability, it might be as easy as playing sports or going to the gym, volunteering in your community, or upgrading your education.

Also remember that the CF is understaffed, that also includes the recruiting system, sometimes you just have to wait your turn.

 
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened

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Re: merit list
« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2004, 06:59:10 »
I finished all the steps in the application process about 1 month ago in Hamilton.
I too was told that I had been "Merit Listed".
My MOC of choice is the 291 Comm Research.  I am told that they are looking at an opening in the 3rd quarter which is the Fall 2004.   The recruiter at the front desk informed me that this could be at the earliest in the begginning of September or at the lastest in the middle of October.  However, he did tell me that this is subject to change at a moment's notice because basically what determines whether or not the trade is open is : a) enough people have registered to warrant sending to BMQ
                       b) whether it coincides with the times the BMQ and subsequent SQ courses are held.

Apparently, they could phone you one day to tell you the good news about an actual date for BMQ to begin and that would be roughly 2-3 before -- just to give you enough time to prepare things here during your training.

About the merit list -- I inquired at the front desk about it and he told me there was no relative ranking based on your test scores....I don't know if this is entirely accurate or if I misunderstood...For instance, after my physical test I knew that I exceeded  all the base-line pre-requisites and I wanted to know where I ranked on the Merit List and they told me it was just Pass or Fail because sometimes there are so many candidates to be tested they don't have time to wait for someone to show they can do 62 push-ups instead of the 22 needed....



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Re: merit list
« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2004, 09:38:31 »
Being merit listed doesn't mean that you are going to get an offer, if 100 people are merit listed and you are listed as #99, you could still have a long wait. Your standing on the merit list is determined by your overall military potential, the person who conducted your interview has a list of assessment factors that they use to determine your military potential, one of them is physical fitness.  Testing is not just pass or fail, everything is considered, how well you scored on the CFAT, physical fitness, education, so on. 
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened

Sir Winston Churchill

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Re: merit list
« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2004, 09:59:42 »
I too am applying for MOC 291 Comm Research.  Did I understand right, there will be "one" opening in Fall 2004?  Only "one" opening?   If this is the case, man, if 100 of us across Canada have applied for this then our chances of getting into this MOC is like "0"

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Re: merit list
« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2004, 12:00:24 »
looking2enlist

Who told you there was only "one" position avail for 291?
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened

Sir Winston Churchill

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Re: merit list
« Reply #48 on: July 28, 2004, 13:08:40 »
Hajdut777, two messages above me.  He sort of implies that there is only one position available.

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Re: merit list
« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2004, 13:18:57 »
I doubt they're going to run a course with 1 person. Although there might alot of ppl in a PAT platoon waiting for course.