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Lastly I wouldn't over inflate the RCN's grasp of logistics, if I were you.  I cant speak for others but I don't hold the understanding or appreciation of Logistics by MARS O's in great esteem.  The Army, while as difficult as it can be, at least understands it needs beans and bullets to fight and win, the RCN seems to see it as some dark voodoo magic that isn't worth the time in understanding or respecting, until it all goes to shite and the Log Dept is left to pick up the pieces again.


If I had a dime for every time I heard one trade in the Navy say that they had "to pick up the pieces again" when commenting on the competence of the other trades I'd be fairly well off.
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They got the mission done, but I seen room for improvement in every arty CP I was in.

Ack, the difference between a strong CP and a weak one is night and day, to the point that a weak one is dangerous.

I didn't mean to hyjack the thread or diminish any of the Sig functions, eventhough I see how it could have been taken that way. Quite the contrary, I got a ton of respect for you guys, and realize I can't do my job without good comms.

I was just looking at it from a tasks perspective, given you're not likely getting more people, current equipment is in a constant state of flux, new equipment is in bound, and there are plenty of initiatives coming down the road that will make it more complex.

At some point, something's gotta give, and deciding which tasks could and probably should be delegated is the low hanging fruit.

We also fight with the streaming/specializing. It is not practical to generalize at the lower to mid levels, but it takes good leadership and communication at the higher levels to keep it from coming apart at the seams.

I'll leave you's too it.  :salute:
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Unfortunately for we club swingers these wars are usually fought, and won or lost, in the shadows. Although there are now soldiers on the streets, paradoxically to give citizens a sense of security, their utility in these kinds of conflicts is largely nil.

Building wide and deep ranging intelligence/ informant networks and 'trap lines' is all part of the solution, along with boundaryless, mutually beneficial security service and diplomatic type connections with a variety of foreign countries, some of whom we would publicly deem 'unpalatable'.

After one tour in Belfast we were told that the 'sneaky peekies' identified hundreds of terrorist operations that were spooled up against us, with only a dozen or so being successfully launched. We 'walking figure 11s' could only take credit for a small portion of those misses. In the same way, in Mainland Britain right now, for every bomb that gets through I'm guessing that dozens have been thwarted/ prevented in one way or another. And we'll never be told about how that all panned out, hopefully.

The shadow folks are still fettered more than I would like to see against these sort of targets.  Pretty hard to box with one hand tied behind the back.  The Marquis of Queensbury rules only make it easier for the bastards to get away with murder.
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Exactly.

I'm convinced that a good portion of that burn out rate is based our inability to produce high numbers of qualified aircrew and our poor personnel mismanagement.

I am glad they scaled this back, it's what we need.

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Army.ca Admin / Re: Increase font in quotes
« Last post by Mike Bobbitt on Today at 06:06:31 »
Funny, I was unhappy with how long it took me to get around to it! :)
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Quote from: daftandbarmy


After one tour in Belfast we were told that the 'sneaky peekies' identified hundreds of terrorist operations that were spooled up against us, with only a dozen or so being successfully launched. We 'walking figure 11s' could only take credit for a small portion of those misses. In the same way, in Mainland Britain right now, for every bomb that gets through I'm guessing that dozens have been thwarted/ prevented in one way or another. And we'll never be told about how that all panned out, hopefully.

No disagreement here.
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Artillery / Re: Air Defence appreciation
« Last post by Fabius on Today at 02:07:10 »
So if the US is doing this, again why is this not an interim option for Canadian manoeuvre battlegroups ?
I get that a layered IADS with capabilities against ballistic missiles, air, avn, munitions on terminal approach and UAS is the ideal solution.  However that is likely unrealistic for Canadian GBAD given PY constraints, and money and even if we can square those items, it still won't be a rapid fielding of the capability.
How do we deal with the very real problem that exists now, given the resource realities we have?
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Unfortunately for we club swingers these wars are usually fought, and won or lost, in the shadows. Although there are now soldiers on the streets, paradoxically to give citizens a sense of security, their utility in these kids of conflicts is largely nil.

Building wide and deep ranging intelligence/ informant networks and 'trap lines' is all part of the solution, along with boundaryless, mutually beneficial security service and diplomatic type connections with a variety of foreign countries, some of whom we would publicly deem 'unpalatable'.

After one tour in Belfast we were told that the 'sneaky peekies' identified hundreds of terrorist operations that were spooled up against us, with only a dozen or so being successfully launched. We 'walking figure 11s' could only take credit for a small portion of those misses. In the same way, in Mainland Britain right now, for every bomb that gets through I'm guessing that dozens have been thwarted/ prevented in one way or another. And we'll never be told about how that all panned out, hopefully.

Yup.
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Ships & Vessels / Re: New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy
« Last post by Bearpaw on Today at 01:23:19 »
Chief Stoker,

Thanks for the nice photos!

The reason I threw out the CB90 idea is that the SAR boat in your photos looks like a non-military version of the CB90. 

Bearpaw
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